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Old 05-07-2012, 07:41 PM   #1
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nw102 issues

thought since we hijacked jamie,s thread awhile back..i would open a new post on some insights and issues that people are having with the new nw102 ...it,s apparent that the maggie has issues around the 650rwhp with blade sucking closed...how about the whipple...need some reports of people running the nw102 on the whipple...same issues?? i know ted will hopefully report back on a whipple he is working on.,..flomo has a adm tuned old style and also jamie has the old style nw102...tracy/sc1250 mentioned a possible fix with the ne nw102{ LS6 acuator motor (rob from a LS6 TB) and TPS (can buy at any auto parts store) but you need the connector to pin out and splic to your LS3 harness} not sure if this is a possibility..tommy{ HENDRIX} also might be working on something...how about some more input...i hate to see guy,s like myself find out to late after buying the nw102 that it will not work...with high hp...i have tried but cannot find a way to reach nw for some input on his tb...tracy said he would find me a contact #, andy{adm} reported that the whipple also has issues with the tb, also mike @ whipple stated he had heard issues , but had no actual testing
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Ill i will say is you will not reach Nick ,if you do buy a lottery ticket !lol
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Ill i will say is you will not reach Nick ,if you do buy a lottery ticket !lol
Not true. We have and he's said that he is aware of the problem and is working on a fix. When he has one you'll have to send your NW 102 in for a hardware upgrade. He also offered us an instant fix but he didn't have the parts to make then work. The old way I'm speaking of here ( motor swap).
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i also heard nick was easy to get hold of, according to tracy...soon as i get a contact #, i will follow up with what i hear from him...
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Not true. We have and he's said that he is aware of the problem and is working on a fix. When he has one you'll have to send your NW 102 in for a hardware upgrade. He also offered us an instant fix but he didn't have the parts to make then work. The old way I'm speaking of here ( motor swap).
Glad to see NW step up and correct this issue won't hold my breath though.

On a side note...saw a nice looking Grand national today. Gonna cruise by later and hot wire that badboy,then take it for a spin
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #6
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i also heard nick was easy to get hold of, according to tracy...soon as i get a contact #, i will follow up with what i hear from him...
Good luck,hes a busy guy and doesnot sell to the public,trust me you will be LUCKY if you get him to pick up,your not going to get a call back,he works 20 hrs a day..
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what is the difference between the old and new style?
i dont know which one i have... bought about 3 months ago..
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mike from whipple said he would make a call, if needed...
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Not true. We have and he's said that he is aware of the problem and is working on a fix. When he has one you'll have to send your NW 102 in for a hardware upgrade. He also offered us an instant fix but he didn't have the parts to make then work. The old way I'm speaking of here ( motor swap).
Jamie we work with Nick regularly,i go to his shop all the time,trust me when theres a fix ill be the first to know.I cant say in what direction Nicks heading but when it gets sorted out ill let everyone know.Ill tell him every one is waiting at lunch tommorow
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if it looks like this, it is new style..thanks tommy, at least we now have a board to post this on, so guys and tuners won,t waste there time and get all jerked around ....glad to have found out b4 i got motor in car...have a couple weeks to figure out my optiond..
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Jamie we work with Nick regularly,i go to his shop all the time,trust me when theres a fix ill be the first to know.I cant say in what direction Nicks heading but when it gets sorted out ill let everyone know.Ill tell him every one is waiting at lunch tommorow

We just got a contact via email so honestly I can't really comment on whether he is just shutting us up or he is actually working on something. My issue has since been resolved, well, 95% of it. It stays open on the track and that was the biggest problem. Nothing did drive as well as the NW did on my car. Thats a fact. Thanks Thomas for looking into this for everyone!
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We just got a contact via email so honestly I can't really comment on whether he is just shutting us up or he is actually working on something. My issue has since been resolved, well, 95% of it. It stays open on the track and that was the biggest problem. Nothing did drive as well as the NW did on my car. Thats a fact. Thanks Thomas for looking into this for everyone!
No problem Ill update this tommorow after i talk with Nick
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No problem Ill update this tommorow after i talk with Nick

Tell him we have the Lynch Mob ready headed by Mike!!!
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Glad to see NW step up and correct this issue won't hold my breath though.

On a side note...saw a nice looking Grand national today. Gonna cruise by later and hot wire that badboy,then take it for a spin

You can hot wire that turd all you want. The only that's gonna make it move is a flatbed. I'm guessing you visited Ted today. Had I know I would've swung by and autographed a picture for you.
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You can hot wire that turd all you want. The only that's gonna make it move is a flatbed. I'm guessing you visited Ted today. Had I know I would've swung by and autographed a picture for you.
You know you heard the BEAST coming up E.Main! Probably pulled one of these
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It had to be under 6k rpms otherwise your NW 102 would have shut your ass down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jamie, you def life of the party...good to have you back...as for the lynch mob, i just believe when you shell out the kind of $$$ for a tb, that it should be obvious that it is for a high hp car and if there are issues that it should not be used with a sc or above 600rwhp, then it should be sold with a disclaimer...also since whipple has been trying to work with nw , it should of been brought up to nw vendors ...hopefully nick is really working to resolve this and not still tring to sell the tb,s that won,t work ...or at least notifying vendors that sells his stuff that it is not recomended for sc use....but have talked to a handful of sellers and whipple , and it was never released to the buying public that it was a issue...now that $$$$ has changed hands...the truth is coming out...the 600.00 is not gonna make or break me , its the principal behind the facts...if your product does not work and you cannot make it work for what it is designed to do...then offer refund /credit or exchange for one that does work...thats all i,m saying...I WANT MINE TO WORK..:dri nking:
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jamie, you def life of the party...good to have you back...as for the lynch mob, i just believe when you shell out the kind of $$$ for a tb, that it should be obvious that it is for a high hp car and if there are issues that it should not be used with a sc or above 600rwhp, then it should be sold with a disclaimer...also since whipple has been trying to work with nw , it should of been brought up to nw vendors ...hopefully nick is really working to resolve this and not still tring to sell the tb,s that won,t work ...or at least notifying vendors that sells his stuff that it is not recomended for sc use....but have talked to a handful of sellers and whipple , and it was never released to the buying public that it was a issue...now that $$$$ has changed hands...the truth is coming out...the 600.00 is not gonna make or break me , its the principal behind the facts...if your product does not work and you cannot make it work for what it is designed to do...then offer refund /credit or exchange for one that does work...thats all i,m saying...I WANT MINE TO WORK..:dri nking:

I spent the day on the dyno with the Whipple 416 and didn't have a single problem at 732 RWHP, we do know they shut at 800 RWHP though.

Where at this power level I did have a problem with the Maggie pulling it shut.

I will tell you they work a lot better on the KB due to the location or proximity to the Rotors.

I would not expect a problem until 850 RWHP or more.

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Agree on the KB. No problems at 815
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I want to buy one, but not until the issues are resolved. I almost bought one a couple months back. Glad I waited it out a little.
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I AM NOT SAYING IT WON'T HAPPEN BUT

Just off the dyno with another JRE 416 Whipple build and here are the results

I did not have any Problems on the dyno but that does not mean it won't happen on the street or track due to how fast the motor revs in lower gears.
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nice ... u got 17 lbs of boost out of the whipple! was this with a 2.75 pulley?
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good info ted, curious, how did jamies respond on the dyno....did it close up on the dyno everytime..or was it more prone to happen in real world driving...not a dyno expert, but knowing how jamie drives , there is only foot off gas pedal and foot pushed hard to floor without letting up...i would expect it to run on dyno but not well at track due to instant 9 sec of wot.. 2nd - any chance this build will take car to track and see how it runs...
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good info ted, curious, how did jamies respond on the dyno....did it close up on the dyno everytime..or was it more prone to happen in real world driving...not a dyno expert, but knowing how jamie drives , there is only foot off gas pedal and foot pushed hard to floor without letting up...i would expect it to run on dyno but not well at track due to instant 9 sec of wot.. 2nd - any chance this build will take car to track and see how it runs...
I can take this one. On the dyno it closed with the 3.2. So Ted tried the 3.4 and it stayed open, on the dyno. First pass at the track it closed almost instantly. Ted told TPIS how he wanted then made and we tried a TPIS/JRE 102. So now Im running the 3.4 coupled with the spacer makes 16 psi. :(If all goes well at the track this Thursday I'm gonna push for the 3.2. But it's up to Ted. In the past, prob 1 1/2 ago, we also had the prob so Ted used a vette ls2 tb. The logs showed it stayed wfo on my glory run!
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