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Old 05-08-2012, 08:34 PM   #26
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I can take this one. On the dyno it closed with the 3.2. So Ted tried the 3.4 and it stayed open, on the dyno. First pass at the track it closed almost instantly. Ted told TPIS how he wanted then made and we tried a TPIS/JRE 102. So now Im running the 3.4 coupled with the spacer makes 16 psi. :(If all goes well at the track this Thursday I'm gonna push for the 3.2. But it's up to Ted. In the past, prob 1 1/2 ago, we also had the prob so Ted used a vette ls2 tb. The logs showed it stayed wfo on my glory run!

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Old 05-08-2012, 08:37 PM   #27
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Just fix it so you don't have any excuses.
Mine's fixed! One more day with the beginner pulley and that I'll have at it. Most likely the JRE rental for what seems like 20 grudge matches!
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Mine's fixed! One more day with the beginner pulley and that I'll have at it. Most likely the JRE rental for what seems like 20 grudge matches!
You hitting any of the LSX shootout events? Atlanta is the next one...1st week in June.
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You hitting any of the LSX shootout events? Atlanta is the next one...1st week in June.
Maybe Atlanta. I still only have a 6 point plus after Ted's rental on the 25th I will have been at the track 7 times and it's only may! It's getting kinda expensive. I may have to do this thing called work! 50/50 right now
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Maybe Atlanta. I still only have a 6 point plus after Ted's rental on the 25th I will have been at the track 7 times and it's only may! It's getting kinda expensive. I may have to do this thing called work! 50/50 right now

Wow...7 whole times....

7 damn more times than me I guess....lol. I know Matt is coming....come on down. It will be hot so doubtful we will see any records but it should be fun. Jason (JRP) is coming too I think...can't wait to see that beast.
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Wow...7 whole times....

7 damn more times than me I guess....lol. I know Matt is coming....come on down. It will be hot so doubtful we will see any records but it should be fun. Jason (JRP) is coming too I think...can't wait to see that beast.
That's a lot of commitments from cars still in pieces! Atl LSX is in 3 wks.
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jamie, from what i have heard from ted, you are running old style 102 like flo mo...tuning these for daily driving is a real bitch...wonder if getting a spacer from the tb and sc that it would help...obvious with the kb , the blades are a distance from the tb...maybe a 1inch spacer if there is room , coild help...???i,m sure ted and andy has thought of this...
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Wow...7 whole times....

7 damn more times than me I guess....lol. I know Matt is coming....come on down. It will be hot so doubtful we will see any records but it should be fun. Jason (JRP) is coming too I think...can't wait to see that beast.
This is definitely the goal as it is getting closer everyday. I am pretty positive I will make Atlanta as they have been working very hard and long hours but its finally coming together as a complete car.
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That's a lot of commitments from cars still in pieces! Atl LSX is in 3 wks.
I thought if you were a racer that you never had your car done until the night before the race. I would have had it done a long time ago if I had known you were practicing so much
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That's a lot of commitments from cars still in pieces! Atl LSX is in 3 wks.
Mine is done other than gears....those are being changed this week.
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jamie, from what i have heard from ted, you are running old style 102 like flo mo...tuning these for daily driving is a real bitch...wonder if getting a spacer from the tb and sc that it would help...obvious with the kb , the blades are a distance from the tb...maybe a 1inch spacer if there is room , coild help...???i,m sure ted and andy has thought of this...

Yeah, I guess it is the old style motor with the blade opening in the opposite direction. I don't think thought the DD tune was difficult. Mine drives like it pretty much always did. What I have noticed, and the biggest DD difference is that the NW does have much nicer street manners and its very resposive to the pedal touch. The old style just takes more pedal to get the car moving. Almost like you have a big stall in it.

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I thought if you were a racer that you never had your car done until the night before the race. I would have had it done a long time ago if I had known you were practicing so much
We've been out testing stuff since late February. April 27th was the first all out attempt this year and even that day Ted was tweaking the entire rental.

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Mine is done other than gears....those are being changed this week.
You and Jason will never be done! You'll just be at the track between changes!
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nice ... u got 17 lbs of boost out of the whipple! was this with a 2.75 pulley?
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jamie, from what i have heard from ted, you are running old style 102 like flo mo...tuning these for daily driving is a real bitch...wonder if getting a spacer from the tb and sc that it would help...obvious with the kb , the blades are a distance from the tb...maybe a 1inch spacer if there is room , coild help...???i,m sure ted and andy has thought of this...
Jamie has the New LS2 Based 102 Throttle body that opens opposite direction.

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Yeah, I guess it is the old style motor with the blade opening in the opposite direction. I don't think thought the DD tune was difficult. Mine drives like it pretty much always did. What I have noticed, and the biggest DD difference is that the NW does have much nicer street manners and its very resposive to the pedal touch. The old style just takes more pedal to get the car moving. Almost like you have a big stall in it.



We've been out testing stuff since late February. April 27th was the first all out attempt this year and even that day Ted was tweaking the entire rental.



You and Jason will never be done! You'll just be at the track between changes!
Bring that orange turd down....you can leave it at Vengeance for a cage upgrade...they hired the fabricator that built my cage.

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Jamie has the New LS2 Based 102 Throttle body that opens opposite direction.

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my bad, thought he had old style like flo mo...ted, is the tb closing ,boost related or actually hp related...reason i ask, i have a slight diff build then most to get to 800rwhp...if i were to run with 12lbs boost and hit with a direct port nos and direct port 115 octane, my boost would relatively still be 12lbs...? from what i am understanding that smaller pulley/more boost = closing/sucking shut of tb ...so a 800rwhp 18lbs boost whipple compared to 800rwhp 12lbs boost with a 200 shot would be less boost ???which would elate to less suction of the tb?? would the instant hp from the nos create same suction as a 18lb boosted motor,, just picking some minds ... ...any input appreciated..thanks..
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i have the same cage as jamie's car. how much for the upgrade?
can the upgrade be done soon?

I don't know but Ron could provide the details. The cage that I have is a work of art....you can't even see it until you get in the car...it's awesome.

They could build you a removable parachute mount as well if you're fast enough to need one.
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I take it this is only a PD blower problem, correct?
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I take it this is only a PD blower problem, correct?
Yeah....it's a slow car issue.
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Why you leading him on, you know JWfabrications will do the other half of your Cage when your ready.

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I take it this is only a PD blower problem, correct?
It is more than just a pd problem. My car had the same issue of the tb closing on an all motor application. I have a customer with a single turbo 2010 Camaro that also had the same tb closing under boost.
Had two customers with the big KB 4.2's that would suck the tb shut above 900rwhp. The C5 style NW 102 tb fixed all of the issues.
The current NW 102 has a problem. Nick is very aware of it and has been for the past 18 months.
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I don't know but Ron could provide the details. The cage that I have is a work of art....you can't even see it until you get in the car...it's awesome.

They could build you a removable parachute mount as well if you're fast enough to need one.
I agree,if i was fast i would get one
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It is more than just a pd problem. My car had the same issue of the tb closing on an all motor application. I have a customer with a single turbo 2010 Camaro that also had the same tb closing under boost.
Had two customers with the big KB 4.2's that would suck the tb shut above 900rwhp. The C5 style NW 102 tb fixed all of the issues.
The current NW 102 has a problem. Nick is very aware of it and has been for the past 18 months.
Yes Nick is aware of the issues and working on a few different fixes.The issues account for less than 1% of the TBs he sells.For the 1% it suxs but we should be testing something in the next few weeks that is very promising and will be able to retrofit all the new style TBs .Ill start a new thread when i get some results.Again is this a TB issue?These same TBs work great on holleys new pcm or the bigstuff as well as the Motec.I will once again state weve had the issues with the c5 version as well .
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It is more than just a pd problem. My car had the same issue of the tb closing on an all motor application. I have a customer with a single turbo 2010 Camaro that also had the same tb closing under boost.
Had two customers with the big KB 4.2's that would suck the tb shut above 900rwhp. The C5 style NW 102 tb fixed all of the issues.
The current NW 102 has a problem. Nick is very aware of it and has been for the past 18 months.
Perfect. I hope there are no issues with mine.
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Yes Nick is aware of the issues and working on a few different fixes.The issues account for less than 1% of the TBs he sells.For the 1% it suxs but we should be testing something in the next few weeks that is very promising and will be able to retrofit all the new style TBs .Ill start a new thread when i get some results.Again is this a TB issue?These same TBs work great on holleys new pcm or the bigstuff as well as the Motec.I will once again state weve had the issues with the c5 version as well .
The c5 version also makes more power. At 1000rwhp the c5 tb made another 35rwhp and 50rwtq.
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