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Old 05-14-2012, 12:14 PM   #1
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Issues with new install

Hi there!

I have a 2010 2SS/RS. This weekend, Best Buy installed Infinity speakers (front and back), a Polk amp and Kicker sub. I’m waiting to replace head unit in hopes of a new kit coming out. Will be ready for when one does! I’ve got a few issues and have an appointment tomorrow to take it back in.

1.) Before, when I turned off the key, my radio would stay on until I opened my driver door. Now, the sound turns off immediately when I turn the key off, but the radio is on. Is there going to be a fix to put it back to normal? I called today to give them a heads up before my appointment in case they need to do some research. The guy did not have the answer but said he would try to find out. Hoping y’all have some ideas. My kingdom for the answer!

2.) There is a whine and a “click” going on.

3.) Some tweaking and I need a little training with the amp. Back speakers barely put out sound at current setting and I have a “can” type of sound.

First issue is the biggie.

Thanks a bunch for your time!

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Old 05-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #2
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Is the Polk amplifier being used to power the highs, as well as the sub? If so it is likely that the remote turn on wire was just taken from an accessory wire such as the cigarette lighter, rather than the factory head unit's remote on, and it just goes off when the car is off, even is the stereo is still on. Best Buy likely would have just used a high level converter for the amplifier inputs, which are known to not produce the greatest sound quality. So, that may be the reason for 2 and 3. The best resolution for this would be to use the ******** harness (if you had the factory Boston Acoustic system) for the remote turn on and amplifier inputs, as this would likely fix all of your issues.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:01 PM   #3
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Hi there, Thanks so much for your response. I really appreciate it!

I'm not sure if both are powering the highs, but I will print off your response and take it with me. I do have the factory Boston Acoustic System for now. Keeping fingers crossed that they can fix me up! Must have good tunes.

So where do I mail my kingdom? It's bigger than a bread box.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:19 PM   #4
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Okay, so issues 1 and 2 were taken care of. 3, not so much.

Installer could not get the back 6x9 Infinity speakers to crank up at all. Totally weak, sound like poo, no bass at all super low volume. Doors sound okay. He said that the BA head unit will only put out so much. Polk amp is still in. Sub out, returned.

He took long cables, hooked up their $70 Kenwood used for testing to my amp so I could see what a cheapo would do with current setup. It sounded great, very healthy. His iPod going through amp did as well.

SO, I decided the answer was to brace self, bite the bullet and upgrade to a high-end double DIN. Tried to track down a Scosche dash kit. No distributors have them. Called Scosche directly, they will not be available until AUGUST! It all just blows. Don’t want Metra.

Question: What are the chances the Infinity speakers will sound better than originals if the BA amp is re-installed? Best to go back total stock until I can upgrade completely? I have an appointment for Tuesday to do whatever.

Suggestions from anyone on how to get better sound with the original head unit and amp would be appreciated. Looking for clarity, not a big time thumper, but I like decent bass with fade a tad to the back. Rock music.

Seriously want to be done with this for now. Ready to enjoy my Camaro again!

Thanks for your time!
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:21 PM   #5
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You would have got a much cleaner sound if you just replaced the 7 speakers (6x9's, Door's, Tweeters, and Center) and continued with the BA amplifier. The whine is likely coming from ground wire ran along side the Rca's. What did he use to get signal, and for remote?
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:32 PM   #6
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I'm not sure what he used to get signal and for remote.

You nailed the problem for the whine. He did get that fixed.

So from what you are saying, it sounds like if I have the BA amplifier put back in and keep the Infinity speakers, it should sound a lot better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is the case since I'm pretty limited as to what can be done. Think this is the route to go?

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it!
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The Infinity speakers will sound better than the factory Bostons, but god only knows how BestBuy has wired your 6x9's in the rear. The factory Boston amp has different channels for the woofers and tweeters for the factory 6 x 9's. I'd be willing to bet that BestBuy has your 6x9's hooked up incorrectly.

You really should print out the wiring diagrams form this thread and take them to BestBuy. The diagrams should allow BestBuy to get your stuff straight. Did they leave the factory Boston amp in your car to power anything when they put the Polk amp in? The factory BA system is such a mess.
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That is exactly what freaks me out. Feels like my car has been mutilated. The 6x9's should sound a heck of alot better than the doors and they are putting out VERY little sound at all. The sound that they ARE putting out is trash.

They did not leave the Boston amp in. I would give ANYTHING if I had known about that ******** Harness thing, so it would not have been removed. Scares me that something is not going to go right on Tuesday.

Thank you for the link. I will print that off for sure and take it with me. Hope he doesn't think I'm trying to insult his intelligence. I just need for it to sound like it did OR BETTER. Will have him let me hear the speakers with the orig amp and decide where to go from there.

I appreciate your help.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:36 PM   #9
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Look into alpines dash kit. I got that one for mine, cost 299 for the kit. They sell them on alpines website.
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I'm not sure what he used to get signal and for remote.

You nailed the problem for the whine. He did get that fixed.

So from what you are saying, it sounds like if I have the BA amplifier put back in and keep the Infinity speakers, it should sound a lot better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is the case since I'm pretty limited as to what can be done. Think this is the route to go?

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it!
Yes have them re-Install your factory amp.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:35 AM   #11
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Where in Texas are you? I would never have Best Buy put my stuff in.
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Stephen: Thanks for that, but I checked with Alpine. They do not have any either.

The more I thought about it the more ticked I got. So called Best Buy last night. Having to wait until Tuesday? Unacceptable period. Wanted to talk to the manager or someone. The original installer quickly said he would look at it right then before going home.

Darkrider: You were right. It took a couple of hours to find that wires WERE indeed switched. He said at one point he was ready to “RIP IT OUT” (ouch) and put the old BA back in. SCAREY. That's my baby!

On to sound... I definitely do get volume now that I did not get with stock. What I wish I had the answer to is: would it sound best with the original BA amp or the Polk amp with the Infinity speakers?

Will be weighing everything out over the weekend. Still have the appointment Tuesday, though I SERIOUSLY do not want for it to be touched again. Sick tummy feeling. When ready to upgrade fully, I WILL find a specialized installer in the area. Lesson learned. Any recommendations in the D/FW area would be greatly appreciated.

Firewolff: I’m in the D/FW area.
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Stephen: Thanks for that, but I checked with Alpine. They do not have any either.

The more I thought about it the more ticked I got. So called Best Buy last night. Having to wait until Tuesday? Unacceptable period. Wanted to talk to the manager or someone. The original installer quickly said he would look at it right then before going home.

Darkrider: You were right. It took a couple of hours to find that wires WERE indeed switched. He said at one point he was ready to “RIP IT OUT” (ouch) and put the old BA back in. SCAREY. That's my baby!

On to sound... I definitely do get volume now that I did not get with stock. What I wish I had the answer to is: would it sound best with the original BA amp or the Polk amp with the Infinity speakers?

Will be weighing everything out over the weekend. Still have the appointment Tuesday, though I SERIOUSLY do not want for it to be touched again. Sick tummy feeling. When ready to upgrade fully, I WILL find a specialized installer in the area. Lesson learned. Any recommendations in the D/FW area would be greatly appreciated.

Firewolff: I’m in the D/FW area.
I would say that the Polk amp should sound way better than the BA amp. When I first got my car, I replaced the BA amp with an old Alpine 3527S I had collecting dust in my garage. The little Alpine puts out 25x4 @ 4 ohm (100w total) or 50x4 @ 2 ohm and it spanked the BA amp. The BA amp supposedly puts out 245w, but it doesn't sound like it to me. The little Alpine sounds....fuller?

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you had the Polk Audio PA200.4 put in. If that is the case, make sure the X-overs are set to "full" and make sure the Bass EQ is set to 0dB. The gains should really bet set to 0. If they are not set to 0, I would turn them down to 0 (MIN). If it doesn't get loud enough for you, you can adjust the gains up. The head unit puts out a high level, so the gains shouldn't need to really be higher than 0 (MIN). See the pic below.

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darkrider is the man!

Yeah, I would advise against putting the stock BA amp back in to replace the Polk. I think that any aftermarket amp would sound better than the BA amp.
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