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Old 12-13-2007, 02:14 PM   #126
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Official release or unauthorized leak, this has generated mostly positive excitement, so personally I think, in this case at least, it's a good thing.

Save the black suburbans for the accountants that nixed the Camaro in 2002 and for anyone who questions this car's existence in the future.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:32 PM   #127
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A little off topic, but technically...they nixed the 1998 F-body.
Scott helped to keep those cars alive for 4 more years. Pouring some of his soul into the task, I'm sure. Something the owners of the LS1 F-bodies are grateful for, I'll wager.

^If all I knew was the above, then that would be enough to assure me that the Camaro is in good hands...but there's just sooo much more that comforts me. It's all been boiled down to a waiting game. And I always win at those games . Mostly because things like this spy-shot keep me sane. :p
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:34 PM   #128
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I was one of the people here who complained about the lack of an angular design on the side of the doors. However, after looking at the leaked pictures of the camo'ed Camaros, I realize that the picture taken here was of horrible quality. There is only overhead lighting, so there's no light shining on the sides of the doors, showing the true angles present. Also, the paint being white doesn't help.

I'm not sure why I didn't think to cross-reference this photo against the camo ones, but the doors appear very close to the concept in those pictures. Fbodfather, I want you to know that I am a HUUUUGE fan of the fifth gen Camaro, as all of us are. The last thing we want to do is cause you any grief. I will be buying a new Camaro regardless, and I am glad it's still looking very similar to the concept! Also, I felt that the door looked flat and vertical, but after reading Fbodfather's post and checking the other leaked photos, I noticed the sides are perfectly rounded and look great.

Thanks again for all you do for us Scott, and rest assured we're all going to be in a frenzy when we see the production model in person for the first time!
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:35 PM   #129
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Fbodfather is a true soldier, he's done a lot for the Camaro enthusiast community (which is an understatement- heck, the guy has literally made dreams come true for some of us). I appreciate his continued enthusiasm and willingness to keep an open channel for dialog with us, which he most certainly doesn't have to (the BMW community doesn't even have this kind of communication being a supposed "enthusiast" oriented brand with its enthusiast and customers). Thanks Scott, and we more than appreciate you!!!
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:01 PM   #130
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As far a Scott is concerned, I keep trying to think of a way to repay him for all he has done for us.

His enthusiasm, loyalty, devotion, and above all, his friendship are to be applauded.

I've owned other vehicles during my lifetime, but the Camaro, the people I now call "friends" (you all and a whole lot more) as a result of owning a Camaro, the great memories I have, all due to owning a Camaro, are all things which I am so thankful for. And holding it all together, making it even more special, is Scott.
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:21 PM   #131
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fbodfather, first off I have to say that sucks being...well, betrayed I guess is the word, like this. But as you yourself noted, most of us still love it even in this prototype.

Actually I earlier todya was in the area of the place I've been thinking of buying my Camaro at and popped in to see if they seemed legit (looked online only before today). And sure, they seemed decent enough. I asked my way to who was responsible for American Chevrolets (remember this is Sweden so the mainly sold Saabs and Opels but also had an American section for Corvettes, Cadillacs, Hummers and Chevrolets). I found the guy in question and asked him if they'd decided yet whether or not to import the Camaro. "Yes we have, we'll be taking them in as soon as possible". I said "Good". The guy paused for a bit and then smiled broadly and said "It's beautiful, ain't it?". "Sure is" I said and smiled back

Just thought I'd share that and add that if this car makes me feel even half the lovely way I felt when riding along as a little kid with my dads old American V8 cars, then I'll love it. And I trust that it will manage at least that
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:32 PM   #132
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Don't worry -- I won't blacklist you!

You are correct in that leaks get most of you very excited ...(and I'm LOVING some of the comments.....)

The real problem is that when something leaks that we have no control over, the picture is invariably a bad one..........(think of the Silver leaked photos in December of 2005....) You will recall that the Silver picture was of a 'clown-suited' car -- where each side was styled differently.........we actually had some people say "....Duuuuuuuuuude! I don't want a car where the front bumper doesn't match!!!"...........and thus, as we see with this picture -- some are jumping to conclusions that the car has gotten bigger or fatter or has been made to be much milder........ It's simply a very bad shot!

Soooooo........you're safe from the black Suburbans -- and while I'm upset that someone leaked this particular photo -- I'm elated that so many of you are so pumped!
Scott, as someone who purchased a new Z/28 in '69, I can tell you that I'm really pumped about the 5th gen. Camaro, it is so reminiscent of the '69 while being so future looking at the same time, I think Chevy has a hit on their hands. I do hope we will see some nice colors available when production starts, maybe even some old "favorites" like an updated version of the Rallye Green. I'm looking forward to the release and plan on having one in my driveway as soon as the right options are available (nothing crazy, just Z/28, etc.).
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:48 PM   #133
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I do think it is tremendous that the Fbodfather even looks at our little forums, let alone takes the time to respond. I mean its not like he doesn't have other things to do.

I think I can speak for the rest of us when I say THANK YOU for your dedication to our beloved car the Camaro. It is because of you more than anyone else that the Camaro will be back.

If the car looks this good in an unauthorized, low res, bad angle pic in white no less, I CAN NOT wait to see the finished product (in a black or blue next time maybe).

Great work Scott and THANKS again for the Camaro and your input to our forum here!
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:56 PM   #134
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^Indeed it is, and we thank you oh fbodfather for it.

Just got reminded of ooooonnnnnneeee tiny thing though (bear with us, for we are but men). I do hope there's at least one nice yellow color in the lineup. I know that the super Bumblebee color won't be an option, but...just some yellow would be nice to go with black stripes. I know there's a lot of us who want that option, and it's perhaps a bit silly to have one that looks like Bumblebee almost, but it's such a nice combo!


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Old 12-13-2007, 06:14 PM   #135
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thank you for all your kind words!

Interesting: someone asked me what it was like to drive Bumblebee around the track in Nevada -- and my reaction CONTINUES to be that it reminds me of driving my 1970 Chevelle MANY years ago! (NOT the handling -- but the view thru the windshield.......)

Sooooooooooooo--- if you're loving the view out of your 70 SS (which looks killer by the way ....) you're gonna love the Camaro!

Scott,
With this post you have uttered the single most convincing argument for me getting a 5th gen Camaro!

As you may remember, I'm well-aquainted with the view of the hood from the driver's seat of a '70 SS El Camino. To say it is a view I remember fondly would be an understatement.
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:14 PM   #136
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i dont really care how bad the picture looks. im just glad to see something. its things like this that keep me wanting this camaro. the hype is just enough. it seems like everyone gets really excited and then it wears off but right before a huge outbreak,something appears and everyone is right back into it again. great job if thats what your really trying to do.
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:17 PM   #137
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hmmmm......I will withhold all negative feelings and hope that GM Guru's will please offer up a better photo...I have to agree this is a bad shot, I do appreciate it for what it is (hopefully) just a bad shot.....
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:28 PM   #138
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Just not real sure about the rear quarter panel. It doesnt look like it is as defined as the concept. That is what i liked about the concept the most. I hope it just the way a v6 looks.
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:48 PM   #139
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Just for kicks...compare the Concept coupe, to the concept Convertible...
there was conversation a while back about how the gas cap was closer to the edge than the coupe...

could it possibly be that the rear-quarters were shrunk a bit on the 'vert? but nobody noticed exactly, because...well - It's a convertible.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:19 PM   #140
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naa looking at both of them on a poster. Both look about the same. If they took away the rear end of the car it is gonna be like the v6 mustang. LAME, I mean that is what made the car unique. Those side vents in front of the rear tire look great on the concept but I'm just not seeing them on these pics. I hope that they are there just maybe concealed well. I'll have a hard time plopping down $$$$$$$ if its not real close to the concept.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:35 PM   #141
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Nice Work, Scott

Lookin' good! Can't wait to add one to the garage...
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:38 PM   #142
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Sooooooooooooo--- if you're loving the view out of your 70 SS (which looks killer by the way ....) you're gonna love the Camaro!
Words cannot express how much I love the view out the front window of my Chevelle. Few things in life make my heart pound in my chest or swell with pride, than when I'm looking out over my cowl induction hood while stepping on the accelerator and listening to 454 cubic inches of raw power from GM's glory days.

So I gotta tell ya, if I didn't know what the Camaro looked like, I'd buy it on your statement alone: "If you're loving the view out of your 70 SS, you're gonna love the Camaro!" I'm guessing then that the view from the driver's seat in the new Camaro looking out over that cowl hood must present a sense of deja vu to anyone who's ever been fortunate to drive a '69 Camaro SS (or Z/28). Sold!
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Words cannot express how much I love the view out the front window of my Chevelle. Few things in life make my heart pound in my chest or swell with pride, than when I'm looking out over my cowl induction hood while stepping on the accelerator and listening to 454 cubic inches of raw power from GM's glory days.

So I gotta tell ya, if I didn't know what the Camaro looked like, I'd buy it on your statement alone: "If you're loving the view out of your 70 SS, you're gonna love the Camaro!" I'm guessing then that the view from the driver's seat in the new Camaro looking out over that cowl hood must present a sense of deja vu to anyone who's ever been fortunate to drive a '69 Camaro SS (or Z/28). Sold!
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:59 PM   #144
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My only criticism is that the side appears very flat and boring. Perhaps it is only because it is painted white? I'm sure a metallic color would add depth.
I thought the same thing, it looks like the Dodge Charger from the side
the car seems taller, I might have to get a lowering kit.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:18 PM   #145
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:32 PM   #146
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;..@#)(*@# i want this car now damnit.. cmon GM
Indeed!! It seems so far away till we can all get one but damn it's fun to keep looking at the pictures and get excited for any tidbit of info you can find in the meantime.
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:43 PM   #147
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Those side vents in front of the rear tire look great on the concept but I'm just not seeing them on these pics. I hope that they are there just maybe concealed well. I'll have a hard time plopping down $$$$$$$ if its not real close to the concept.
The vents in front of the rear tires are there. But they aren't 'cut thru'. They appear to just be indentations. That's actually not something that's very important to me.

In general even the bad pics look 'real close' to the concept... I'm not sure how you see otherwise.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:01 AM   #148
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Well it looks like i may be getting mine as a graduation present I start school (Yes yes late i know) Jan 7th for 3 years. So I'll treat myself to my Camaro as a graduation present, to myself
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:47 AM   #149
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Respectfully,

I'm guessing you are not inclined to address this...
I believe it was acknowledged several months ago that the roofline would have to be raised a little bit over the concept's roofline to be able to allow drivers over 6'1" or so to sit comfortably in the car... but the raised roofline was about 1.3" taller, or something to that effect.



I love the way the car looks, even with the body coverings on... but, then again, I'm really good at seeing what I need to see under the coverings... been staring at those kinds of pics for a VERY long time... so I can see things that I just cannot rationalize to others.

and, honestly, GM had me at CAMARO.
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As we can all tell it's Christmas here. :P I won't pass judgement until I see actual finished and painted pictures and definitely specs. Thanks Scott for your words of wisdom! We always love hearing from you! As for me, I decided that I didn't want to stay here in Iraq that much longer and won't do a full year here, so I may not be able to buy the new Camaro with my check card, but I will definitely be getting it anyways. Even if I have to rob a bank. :P
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