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Old 12-13-2007, 11:59 PM   #151
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I believe it was acknowledged several months ago that the roofline would have to be raised a little bit over the concept's roofline to be able to allow drivers over 6'1" or so to sit comfortably in the car... but the raised roofline was about 1.3" taller, or something to that effect.
Where did you hear this??? I'm 6'5" and hoping and praying that it will be a "perfect fit", otherwise I'll be sorely disappointed.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:09 AM   #152
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I remember it too. Don't know who said it. I think it was scott with some random info that he was able to reveal to us. We had an "official changes from concept to production vehicle" thread named something like "What we know". Scott commented on what was wrong with the list we had. He only named a few because most were from credible and correct sources. He just pointed out what wasn't fact

EDIT: I thiunk DGthe3 started it.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:19 AM   #153
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The new Camaro has a very sexy cool look. This car will single handedly set off an enormously new mid life crisis for a lot of older men. Give me mine in black on black please.
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Thought you guys might appreciate a little speculative photoshop work..grill's taking a little more time and patience than i have right now..

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Old 12-14-2007, 02:07 AM   #155
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Where did you hear this??? I'm 6'5" and hoping and praying that it will be a "perfect fit", otherwise I'll be sorely disappointed.
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We all know that there are a few mods GM will have to make from the concept to the actual production model. I have been told that the door handles as well as the trunk will be changed. I would assume the side mirrors, dash, wheels, and loc of gas cap would also be changed. Then, I read that the roofline was to be raised by 14mm. Why? I don't know...

1. I can understand the smaller wheels. It would cost a fortune to produce the rims, tires, and not to mention the high cost to us for replacing those tires.
2. The door handles I wish would stay the same. I could understand the ice situation, but it doesn't ice down here! I'd like to see side handles like on the vette. That would be a nice addition.
3. As far as the side mirrors go, I could see those being changed...too narrow.
4. The gas cap location: I like it where it is. For all those people who are going to be careless about filling up, well...use caution! Use a paper towel when filling up to catch any dripping gas. I think the location of the gas cap looks cool as all hell.
5. I don't know why they must change the height of the roofline. 14mm is not that much, but has the potential for making a big differrence.
6. I like the dash, but think the color insert needs to match the car. I like how the gauges are set up, but don't know if I like their display. I also think that radio needs some work.
7. The trunk opening seems a bit small. For it to be useful to the other half of the folks buying this car, it needs to have good access to the trunk and enough space to carry plenty of items.

I love this car. It will be mine. I just hope they don't change it too much that it becomes something else. What do you all think?
I really wish I would have quoted where I read the 14mm (I've been trying to quote lately from mag's, etc.). It has been talked about from a couple magazines and Scott has mentioned (along w/ other GM execs) that the roof was being raised. I do believe it was 14mm, but that was also a while ago. It could have changed. It looks taller to me and 14mm isn't that much...so, it could have gotten a little more than that. Still looks good to me!!
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yeah I thought it was 11 or 13, but either way, raising the roofline won't matter to me as my girl will be topless.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:53 AM   #157
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i dont know why everyone is saying thisis such a bad picture. this picture is what everyone has wanted,a leaked photo. here it is. stop criticizing it and be happy you even saw it. yeah it was an amatuer photo and thats it. call it a bad view but it also has bras on it. dont judge it until you see it unveiled.
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yeah I thought it was 11 or 13, but either way, raising the roofline won't matter to me as my girl will be topless.
hahah thats funny.
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:12 AM   #159
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As far a Scott is concerned, I keep trying to think of a way to repay him for all he has done for us.

His enthusiasm, loyalty, devotion, and above all, his friendship are to be applauded.

I've owned other vehicles during my lifetime, but the Camaro, the people I now call "friends" (you all and a whole lot more) as a result of owning a Camaro, the great memories I have, all due to owning a Camaro, are all things which I am so thankful for. And holding it all together, making it even more special, is Scott.

The way to repay me is for everyone to remain friends............the name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade" -- and it upsets me when people 'start' with each other on some of the Camaro sites......

I love what I do (yes...there are days when it gets a 'lil bit much - but the next day invariably makes up for the bad one before.....) -- so -- I just ask that we always remember that 'It's about the PEOPLE!' (....and the cars!)
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:17 AM   #160
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hahah thats funny.

I actually meant the convertible top will be down. my g/f being topless is for my own private viewing as she treats me well. I don't like sharing.
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #161
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I just checked out the camaro on post (1)again, and is it possible to love a car even more? Man, I want that thing in the worst possible way. Now if we could just get someone to . . ah, maybe pop the hood?Hmmmm,nudge, nudge, or get a peak at the insides, poke, poke. So far it looks like all we lost is the door handles and mirrors.(not a big deal and we all knew that the concept mirrors wouldn't stay anyways.). I think what we gained is a car that'll make the mustang .
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:24 AM   #162
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I do think it is tremendous that the Fbodfather even looks at our little forums, let alone takes the time to respond. I mean its not like he doesn't have other things to do.

I think I can speak for the rest of us when I say THANK YOU for your dedication to our beloved car the Camaro. It is because of you more than anyone else that the Camaro will be back.

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Thank you for the very very kind words -- and as I read thru this entire thread, once again I realize just how much this car is loved..... -- and that's a very emtional thing for all of us at Chevy and GM who love/work on the new Camaro.

I can't take credit for the new Camaro. Yes - I refused to let anyone forget Camaro (and Firebird) -- yes, I constantly wore my Camaro shirts and jackets and ties to work every day. Yes, I came close to b**chslapping ANYONE who even THOUGHT of saying "Give it up -- it's dead" -- and yes, I refused to disappear on the various sites and yes I refused to stop saying "Have Faith"

.......now -- all of that said -- it is people like Bob Lutz and Ed Wellburn and Tom Peters and Cheryl Pilcher and Doug Houlihan and Bob Boniface and John Fitzpatrick and Ed Peper and a TON of other people that are responsible for the new Camaro. Keep in mind that Rick Wagoner's (our Chairman) first car was a 1972 Camaro...................... (how do you like THEM apples???) --
I have been priviledged to have my own lil part of the new Camaro -- and I'm so very thankful that the Camaro team at Chevy has scheduled many a meeting around my auto show schedule so that I could take part in the many discussions and decisions that impact this great car.

The name Fbodfather is both a source of pride -- and yes, an embarrassment to me -- because you see -- there are those who deserve the name more than I -- esp. people like Hank Haga and Don McPherson and Pete Estes and Bob Lund and so many others who brought us the original.

So -- thank you for the kind words -- but I just ask that you keep in mind that it takes MANY MANY MANY people to bring you a truly great car -- and it is our intention to make your next new Camaro -- THE BEST AUTOMOBILE YOU EVER OWNED.........PERIOD!

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Old 12-14-2007, 07:30 AM   #163
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^Tha's the one thing that worries me. I have a feeling that nothing after this will probably not even come close to my Camaro. But I guess I'l have to live with that
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:48 AM   #164
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I remember it too. Don't know who said it. I think it was scott with some random info that he was able to reveal to us. We had an "official changes from concept to production vehicle" thread named something like "What we know". Scott commented on what was wrong with the list we had. He only named a few because most were from credible and correct sources. He just pointed out what wasn't fact

EDIT: I thiunk DGthe3 started it.
Nope, wasn't me. The thread was started by Pencil.Fight http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1817. I was the 2nd to post in it though . . .
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I might be diggin' this better than the new Challenger!

Friggen sweet! Might even bring me back to GM!
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:42 AM   #166
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Scott, I was just wondering, if you're able to answer this that is.... Has Chevy decided EXACTLY what engines and options will definitely be in there at the moment or is it all still speculative??

One thing that latest photoshop rendition helped with seeing is how HUGE that front end is...which hopefully something HUGE will be going in there. :P
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:10 AM   #167
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Yes - I refused to let anyone forget Camaro (and Firebird) -- yes, I constantly wore my Camaro shirts and jackets and ties to work every day. Yes, I came close to b**chslapping ANYONE who even THOUGHT of saying "Give it up -- it's dead" -- and yes, I refused to disappear on the various sites and yes I refused to stop saying "Have Faith"
And that, on top of numerous other reasons (such as posting on our little board are why we like you so much, Scott.

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The name Fbodfather is both a source of pride -- and yes, an embarrassment to me -- because you see -- there are those who deserve the name more than I -- esp. people like Hank Haga and Don McPherson and Pete Estes and Bob Lund and so many others who brought us the original.
Embarrasment aside, Scott: You wear the title well.

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So -- thank you for the kind words -- but I just ask that you keep in mind that it takes MANY MANY MANY people to bring you a truly great car -- and it is our intention to make your next new Camaro -- THE BEST AUTOMOBILE YOU EVER OWNED.........PERIOD!
Then pass on our thanks and gratitude to those many, many, many people responsible - but make sure to keep some for yourself :p

And I am so glad you said that. I'm looking forward to buying one of these God-cars
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:22 AM   #168
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I know that the super Bumblebee color won't be an option
Really, wow...that's a disappointment because while I'm not sure I'd get it in that color I can tell you that the Bumblebee Camaro was the best looking yellowish car I've ever seen. My brother and I both said we might get it in that color.

fbodfather, I want to thank you also for helping calm some of us down and for the work you put into all of this (the car, posting here, etc).

Just to share with you when I was "WOWED", I was watching Transformers at the movies and the sec I saw the transformation from the older Camaro to New (mind you, even the old one made me say "you know, that version was pretty nice looking too") I leaned over and told my little sis...

"Done deal, GOD WILLING that's my next car" My jaw was on the floor so thanks to all of you that had part in this. Also...Mr. Lee...wow, GREAT JOB!!!!

Side Note: I only would consider 2+2 sports cars because I have a young son to experience sports cars with (almost 2 now), can we say that the back seats in the Camaro5 are more comfortable and has more space the previous or is it about the same. I own a RX8 which is pretty good in the rear so I just was wondering about that.
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Oh so tempting.

Being new here, I'm sure this has been discussed already. And, I'm sure that FBodFather has laid the ground rules down as to what he will and won't discuss.

But, MAN! As a newbie to the site and realizing who he is...:eek: I just want to ask a million questions. I feel like a kid when Mom comes back from Christmas shopping and you just bombard her with questions... Is it red? Is it loud? Can I ride it? Does it go fast?

Hmmm. Doesn't seem like my questions have changed much since then...

FBodFather, if I cross the line at any time feel free to educate me by beating me about the head, neck and chest.
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Scott, I was just wondering, if you're able to answer this that is.... Has Chevy decided EXACTLY what engines and options will definitely be in there at the moment or is it all still speculative??

One thing that latest photoshop rendition helped with seeing is how HUGE that front end is...which hopefully something HUGE will be going in there. :P
There have been some changes to the powertrain lineup recently - but in my opinion, its all good! There will be some minor changes to options and packages --but you can be assured that we listened VERY WELL to the "12 disciples of which there are 15" when they came to Milford to drive the convertible and let us pick at their brains.......

And no, I won't tell you what they are! (I'd love to -- but there is more than just a couple of Black Suburbans these days......)
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I actually meant the convertible top will be down. my g/f being topless is for my own private viewing as she treats me well. I don't like sharing.
yeah im very selfish too.
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Thank you for the very very kind words -- and as I read thru this entire thread, once again I realize just how much this car is loved..... -- and that's a very emtional thing for all of us at Chevy and GM who love/work on the new Camaro.

I can't take credit for the new Camaro. Yes - I refused to let anyone forget Camaro (and Firebird) -- yes, I constantly wore my Camaro shirts and jackets and ties to work every day. Yes, I came close to b**chslapping ANYONE who even THOUGHT of saying "Give it up -- it's dead" -- and yes, I refused to disappear on the various sites and yes I refused to stop saying "Have Faith"

.......now -- all of that said -- it is people like Bob Lutz and Ed Wellburn and Tom Peters and Cheryl Pilcher and Doug Houlihan and Bob Boniface and John Fitzpatrick and Ed Peper and a TON of other people that are responsible for the new Camaro. Keep in mind that Rick Wagoner's (our Chairman) first car was a 1972 Camaro...................... (how do you like THEM apples???) --
I have been priviledged to have my own lil part of the new Camaro -- and I'm so very thankful that the Camaro team at Chevy has scheduled many a meeting around my auto show schedule so that I could take part in the many discussions and decisions that impact this great car.

The name Fbodfather is both a source of pride -- and yes, an embarrassment to me -- because you see -- there are those who deserve the name more than I -- esp. people like Hank Haga and Don McPherson and Pete Estes and Bob Lund and so many others who brought us the original.

So -- thank you for the kind words -- but I just ask that you keep in mind that it takes MANY MANY MANY people to bring you a truly great car -- and it is our intention to make your next new Camaro -- THE BEST AUTOMOBILE YOU EVER OWNED.........PERIOD!

Have Faith!
it brings tears to my eyes every time you speak about the camaro. i just hope you know how very lucky you, and everyone else who works on this car are. not only for working on a car but its a piece of history. i would give anything in the world to have even the slightest bit of job, on this car.
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Anyone else notice the fact that Fbodfather has doubled his posts here in the last week?
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honestly, GM had me at CAMARO.
I know exactly what you mean. As long as this car keeps the Camaro nameplate, I will buy one.

To me, that name means something, and it's more than an engine or the sheets of metal that surround it. Camaro is a way of life, it's a personality, it's what brings us together from all over the country (and even the world!).

When I bought my first Camaro, all I knew about it was that it was a V6. I didn't even know that there were names for different engines, I just thought they either had 6 cylinders or they had 8 . I knew there was such a thing as a Z/28 because my dad had had one, but I didn't know what an SS or a Berlinetta or an LT was. All that mattered to me was that it said Camaro on the side.

Now that I know a little bit more about cars, I still feel the same way. As long as that beautiful scripted "Camaro" is badged onto the side of the car, I know I'll be in for the ride of my life.

All those extra features (engine size, horse power, interior comforts, body style, etc.) are just an added bonus; the cherry on top of the sundae, if you will. But man, oh man, that is one SWEET Cherry!
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Really, wow...that's a disappointment because while I'm not sure I'd get it in that color I can tell you that the Bumblebee Camaro was the best looking yellowish car I've ever seen. My brother and I both said we might get it in that color.
Okay I don't for sure "know" that its' not going to be an option. I just think it's very unlikely. And if it is an option it will either be a special edition or VERY expensive.

Or so I guess at least. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's an option. If it is, I'm sure as hell spending that extra money.
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