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Old 05-17-2012, 07:21 AM   #1
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LOJACK

Hey guys,
Ive been looking into better features for the car and ive been thinking about lojack. Does anyone on here have lojack? Does anyone have any storys on them? also did it lower your insurance cost? If so by how much?
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:11 AM   #2
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Unless your Nissan Quest is on this list, save your money.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:31 AM   #3
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lol its not for my nissan quest, i'm waiting for the 2013 camaro pricing to come out before i order mine!
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:39 AM   #4
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I have it. My insurance gives me a discount for it. I haven't had my car stolen, but I do know it works... The battery in the Lojack keyfob needed to be replaced. It wasn't 15 minutes before Lojack was calling me telling me the car had been moved.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:15 AM   #5
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Onstar does the same thing expect they can also remotely kill the engine on the would be thief.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:27 AM   #6
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You would probably be better off with Onstar. I'm in law enforcement and we have recovered several Motorcycles with LoJack but I can't recall any cars. The thing about LoJack is that not all patrol units have the LoJack antennas in their units to pick up the signal so you're relying on the hopes that there's an officer available to track the signal. Now I've personally been involved with several Onstar stolen vehicle recoveries. The good thing about Onstar is that they call our dispatcher and the dispatcher relays the information to all on duty officers which makes it alot easier to track and recover the vehicle along with them being able to shut the engine off.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:31 AM   #7
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I have lojack. Once while my car was being worked on it was moved without the key. Within a minute or so I was notified my car was possibly being stolen. Not only was I surprised but the shop was too since I called them while they were still moving the car. The early earning feature definitely works.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:43 AM   #8
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We have had a really back experiences with onstar on my grandparents buick. My grandma (91 years young! lol) way driving back home from the beauty salon when she got disoriented and was lost and went down an abandoned street and hit a guard rail. She called us telling us that she didnt know where she was that she had an accident. Onstar called the car like they were suppose and asked her if she was ok and she said she was fine so they didnt do anything. We called onstar trying to get them to tell us her location but they refused to tell us.Even though we had all the information necessary. All they kept on telling us was that she was fine she said which is great but she has no idea where she is! so we had to go searching for her, about 3 hours later we found her no thanks to onstar. Onstar wouldnt send anyone out since they said it hadnt been 24 hour since she had gone missing!!
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:54 AM   #9
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I went with LoJack....I cancelled ON-Star anyways...I've only heard good things about LO-jack...I think its well worth the peace of mind...
I was told even by my dealer, that all thieves have to do is cut some wires by the mirror and ON-star is worthless....All major law enforcement agencies around here use it...The early warning thing, they call up to five phone numbers if there is a problem...I think its awesome...I want my own car back, if its stolen...not just kiss it off and get another one...
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Another advantage to Lojack is that it uses radio instead of satellite. If your stolen car is loaded into a container, Lojack will still work, Onstar won't. I kept both. Peace of mind is worth it.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:04 AM   #11
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Another advantage to Lojack is that it uses radio instead of satellite. If your stolen car is loaded into a container, Lojack will still work, Onstar won't. I kept both. Peace of mind is worth it.
I've heard that On-star has problems anyway in metro areas where the buildings can block the signal. And with On-star you gotta report it stolen only after you physically discover its gone, LoJack is practically instant, you can be anywhere and know its moved.

As far as insurance, there is a discount for an anti-theft device, but I don't think its any more for Lo-jack.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:07 AM   #12
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Onstar does the same thing expect they can also remotely kill the engine on the would be thief.
actually I don't think onstar turns a car off mid drive, because of liability issues with no power steering when the car is off.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:23 AM   #13
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Another advantage to Lojack is that it uses radio instead of satellite. If your stolen car is loaded into a container, Lojack will still work, Onstar won't. I kept both. Peace of mind is worth it.


I have it on all three of our cars.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:24 AM   #14
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Lojack is a waste of money imo.

The equipment law enforcement agencies need in order to track vehicles, cost a crap ton so most agencies actually don't have the equipment. Only the big cities can afford to have it and even then probably less then half of the patrol cars have the equipment installed. What's the point in having it if you are in an area that doesn't have the equipment needed to track your car?

The number one reason I hear about people getting Lojack is because they hear how easy it is to disable Onstar. Well guess what, Lojack is just as easy if not easier to disable then Onstar and Lojack signal is even worse. I've got some friends are are repo men. If you can get a hold of a repo magazine you will find a little device that costs about $20 that plugs into the cigarette lighter and it completely disables Lojack. For Onstar, you can't simply just clip a wire at the rear view mirror or knock off the antenna (all this does is lower the signal strength but it still works).

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Another advantage to Lojack is that it uses radio instead of satellite. If your stolen car is loaded into a container, Lojack will still work, Onstar won't. I kept both. Peace of mind is worth it.
Actually your logic is flawed. If you car is put in a container neither will work. You can test this for yourself if you don't believe me simply using a box truck.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:44 AM   #15
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We have had a really back experiences with onstar on my grandparents buick. My grandma (91 years young! lol) way driving back home from the beauty salon when she got disoriented and was lost and went down an abandoned street and hit a guard rail. She called us telling us that she didnt know where she was that she had an accident. Onstar called the car like they were suppose and asked her if she was ok and she said she was fine so they didnt do anything. We called onstar trying to get them to tell us her location but they refused to tell us.Even though we had all the information necessary. All they kept on telling us was that she was fine she said which is great but she has no idea where she is! so we had to go searching for her, about 3 hours later we found her no thanks to onstar. Onstar wouldnt send anyone out since they said it hadnt been 24 hour since she had gone missing!!
You could have called Grandma on the OnStar phone, and had her press the OnStar button and ask for "appropriate assistance".
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:52 AM   #16
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Just a side note...When I first got the car, insurance wanted to know if I had an anti-theft device for the discount...At that time, I told them I did have ON-Star. They asked, well are you going to put another one on it. I said maybe.??....
Point is they were luke-warm about accepting ON-Star as an anti-theft device because of its signal limitations and of the owner having the option to cancel the service. I had to send them all the info regarding On-star, proof of it being active, before they somewhat "reluctantly" accepted it, and even then because I was a long time customer.
When I later told them I installed LO-Jack, they were more comfortable with that as an anti-theft device....just sayin'....

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Old 05-17-2012, 11:20 AM   #17
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We have had a really back experiences with onstar on my grandparents buick. My grandma (91 years young! lol) way driving back home from the beauty salon when she got disoriented and was lost and went down an abandoned street and hit a guard rail. She called us telling us that she didnt know where she was that she had an accident. Onstar called the car like they were suppose and asked her if she was ok and she said she was fine so they didnt do anything. We called onstar trying to get them to tell us her location but they refused to tell us.Even though we had all the information necessary. All they kept on telling us was that she was fine she said which is great but she has no idea where she is! so we had to go searching for her, about 3 hours later we found her no thanks to onstar. Onstar wouldnt send anyone out since they said it hadnt been 24 hour since she had gone missing!!
I understand your problem, but you've got to see their side as well. They can't just give out location information to anyone. What if a husband under a TRO called to get information about his wife's location...then went and assaulted her? I can see a lot of problems with it. The post above gave the best solution. Have Granny hit the onstar button while on the cell with you, have her ask Onstar her location and repeat it to you.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:24 AM   #18
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Just a side note...When I first got the car, insurance wanted to know if I had an anti-theft device for the discount...At that time, I told them I did have ON-Star. They asked, well are you going to put another one on it. I said maybe.??....
Point is they were luke-warm about accepting ON-Star as an anti-theft device because of its signal limitations and of the owner having the option to cancel the service. I had to send them all the info regarding On-star, proof of it being active, before they somewhat "reluctantly" accepted it, and even then because I was a long time customer.
When I later told them I installed LO-Jack, they were more comfortable with that as an anti-theft device....just sayin'....
A lot depends on your location. If you're in a big city (LA since you are in Torrance), LoJack has been around since the early 90's and is pretty big there. Probably the same in NY, Chicago, etc. But if you're in a smaller city, or rural area, Onstar will be where LoJack isn't.

Thinks it's pretty much a personal preferance, and one will be better than another based on variables. But the best bet, if LoJack is available in your area...get both. Save you piece of mind. Also, OnStar is more than just for theft.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:03 PM   #19
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I have OnStar, LoJack and Glock.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:41 PM   #20
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The equipment law enforcement agencies need in order to track vehicles, cost a crap ton so most agencies actually don't have the equipment. Only the big cities can afford to have it and even then probably less then half of the patrol cars have the equipment installed. What's the point in having it if you are in an area that doesn't have the equipment needed to track your car?
Lojak installs the receiver in police vehicles for free.
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Lojak installs the receiver in police vehicles for free.
Key word there.

The department still has to purchase the equipment. I have many friends in 6 different precincts across 4 counties (including a couple sheriffs and police chiefs) and not a single precinct has the ability to track Lojack specifically because of the expansive initial cost to purchase the equipment. If it was free, every officer would have that ability.
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THE ONLY STOLEN VEHICLE RECOVERY SYSTEM OPERATED BY THE POLICE
Through a highly successful public-private partnership with law enforcement agencies around the country and throughout the world, LoJack is the only provider of stolen vehicle recovery systems that are directly connected to state crime computers, making it extremely effective in combating vehicle theft.
LoJack uses a proven and proprietary technology operating on a Radio Frequency allocated by the FCC exclusively for the recovery of stolen vehicles. When a LoJack-equipped vehicle is stolen, the vehicle’s owner alerts local law enforcement. Once officers complete this routine report, a silent signal is automatically sent out that activates the LoJack transmitter hidden in the stolen vehicle. Using special tracking technology donated by LoJack for squad cars and aviation units, police officers can quickly track and recover the vehicle, often apprehending the thieves and recovering additional stolen vehicles in the process.

Key word, donated.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:33 PM   #23
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Check the fine print and coverage area. It's installed on mine, but the local LEOs don't monitor it. Go figure. I can see Mexico from my back yard. Then Lojack starts to hound you after a year or two about warranty for batteries that need to be replaced. In my case, it was a waste of money. I just keep OnStar safe and sound plan.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:06 AM   #24
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I have both. Onstar can be disabled, Lojack can't. Peace of mind... Now I need to get a trunk monkey.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:40 AM   #25
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The problem with Lojack basic systems is that it will not activate until you call their call center and report it stolen. The call center will then activate the Lojack system, and you hope that the police will have the receivers to find the car. If you are out of town and don't find out the car has been moved for a couple of days, you could be SOL. Lojack does make a unit that will notify you via text/e-mail that the car has been moved, but it is a lot more $$$ than the basic system.

The best stolen car recovery systems work on GPS + cell service to activly track your car in real time on a map. You get an e-mail/text message that your car has been moved, and then you can go online and track your car. many of these systems have call centers that will take your theft report, track the vehicle and guide local law enforcement to recover the car. I have one of this type of system in my Camaro, and I can go online through my Android phone to see where my car is from anyplace I can get the internet. Way better system than Lojack.
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