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View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1 5 35.71%
GT500 9 64.29%
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:19 PM   #1
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2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:35 PM   #2
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The Ford Mustang is a great car, but the Chevy Camaro is something else. Great video, thanks for sharing!
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:56 PM   #3
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Cool vid though
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:02 PM   #4
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I wander why its not compared to the GT500?
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:26 PM   #5
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Here's the original thread about this video. Thread was getting way out of control:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=302
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:10 PM   #6
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I love these two cars side by side.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:31 PM   #7
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Formerly ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500

The new GT500 looks like a beast... i wonder how it will do against the ZL1 as far as handling?

http://blog.caranddriver.com/confirm...-hp-631-lb-ft/
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:41 PM   #8
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Could this be an alternative to a Nissan GT-R?
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:03 PM   #9
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Could this be an alternative to a Nissan GT-R?
HP wise, absolutely. Traction wise, no way. Stuff some slicks under it though, and it should be a contender...
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:25 PM   #10
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I found this interesting ...

" Ford will govern the top speed of the convertible to 155 mph or so, the current Shelby’s speed limit. The heavier convertible has a softer suspension and no rollover hoop. It’s also likely that the Shelby coupe without the Performance and Track packages may be governed, due to cooling issues—the Track package adds engine-, transmission-, and differential-lubricant coolers. After all, SVT says the Shelby coupe weighs 3850 pounds, and its powertrain generates a lot of  heat. "
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:38 PM   #11
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i imagine top end runs will indeed generate a lot of heat, espcially with how long it would take to even try to get there.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:36 PM   #12
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The numbers released are insane ...

I know most people say "it won't handle and has no traction" , but I'm very very interested to the real life times. This seems like a FORD GT in a mustang . Magazine says 11.5 ? If this beast puts down numbers like that , I'm sure GT500 owners could give a squat about handling.

Who autocrosses ? Will there be a right turn contest with the zl1 ?

Wouldn't surprise me if the 13' ZL1 gets a nice bump in HP.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #13
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"Ford says that the GT500′s supercharged 5.8-liter V-8 is now the most powerful production V-8 in the world"

That's one hell of a statement ... when is this car going to hit the streets ?

And is the new argument "ZR1 vs GT500" ?
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:10 PM   #14
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"Ford says that the GT500′s supercharged 5.8-liter V-8 is now the most powerful production V-8 in the world"

That's one hell of a statement ... when is this car going to hit the streets ?

And is the new argument "ZR1 vs GT500" ?
Aside from hand made super exotics, it is the most powerful production v8 in the world. I think it's out this summer. And no, ZR1 will still destroy the GT500. Better tires, better suspension, better balanced, better aero dynamics, just over all a better performance platform.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:05 PM   #15
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I love all Chevys, Fords, and the GTR. No Camaro or Mustang will ever be a GTR. You have to drive one to know what I mean. A buddy of mine has a boost logic Greddy package on one and it runs low 10's all day long no issues. Super street friendly.

The camaro is pretty balanced both power and handling on the ZL1. Modded they will be fast and perform well all around.

The ZR1 is just a different car compared to a mustang along with the Ford GT.

Now as for the Mustang, it will have a ton of power and will be maxed out running as hot as it is. I will be interested to see what the "next" step will be for power. It may not need anything but suspension, wheels, and tires. What I do know is that it is still a mustang. Not a Corvette, not a Ford GT, definately not a GTR, and not even a Camaro in terms of engineering.

The motor will be a beast but what does that power do to the ground and will the car handle that power gracefully?

We shall see....
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sorry to go off topic but i was reading this article and found this very interesting:
FORD will offer a 2013 Mustang Roush package offering 3 stages(1,2,and 3) but the one that caught my attention is STAGE 3 saying -"Stage 3 puts a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 rated for 565 hp and 505 lb-ft of torque under the hood. The forced induction comes courtesy of an R2300 supercharger featuring Eaton’s TVS (Twin Vortices Series) patented technology." WILL THIS BE 1/4 COMPETITION WITH THE ZL1? and here is the link to the article guys.: http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-ro...te-april-2012/
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I love all Chevys, Fords, and the GTR. No Camaro or Mustang will ever be a GTR. You have to drive one to know what I mean. A buddy of mine has a boost logic Greddy package on one and it runs low 10's all day long no issues. Super street friendly.
I've ridden along in one... Holy Crap what a ride... The dead stop take off felt like one of the electromag launch roller coasters with that weird stomach feeling.. I kept waiting for the thing to come off the ground during hard turns, but it just stayed planted.... It's amazing what that car can do......
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Maybe ford can photo shop their car like the Shelby1000 did with its front wheels off the ground. LOL
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sorry to go off topic but i was reading this article and found this very interesting:
FORD will offer a 2013 Mustang Roush package offering 3 stages(1,2,and 3) but the one that caught my attention is STAGE 3 saying -"Stage 3 puts a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 rated for 565 hp and 505 lb-ft of torque under the hood. The forced induction comes courtesy of an R2300 supercharger featuring Eaton’s TVS (Twin Vortices Series) patented technology." WILL THIS BE 1/4 COMPETITION WITH THE ZL1? and here is the link to the article guys.: http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-ro...te-april-2012/
if i'm not mistaken, in this instance, ford doesn't do this themselves. these cars go to roush for that work. i could be wrong though.
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I love all Chevys, Fords, and the GTR. No Camaro or Mustang will ever be a GTR. You have to drive one to know what I mean. A buddy of mine has a boost logic Greddy package on one and it runs low 10's all day long no issues. Super street friendly.

The camaro is pretty balanced both power and handling on the ZL1. Modded they will be fast and perform well all around.

The ZR1 is just a different car compared to a mustang along with the Ford GT.

Now as for the Mustang, it will have a ton of power and will be maxed out running as hot as it is. I will be interested to see what the "next" step will be for power. It may not need anything but suspension, wheels, and tires. What I do know is that it is still a mustang. Not a Corvette, not a Ford GT, definately not a GTR, and not even a Camaro in terms of engineering.

The motor will be a beast but what does that power do to the ground and will the car handle that power gracefully?

We shall see....
question for ya on this one.

when i was doing my buddys brakes on his 2010, i noticed that the front hubs appear to be capable of taking a drive axle. i'd heard talk in the past of possibly producing an AWD version of the camaro.
don't you think that an AWD camaro or mustang(i don't see this type of hubs on my mustang) would be able to match the gtr?
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"Ford says that the GT500′s supercharged 5.8-liter V-8 is now the most powerful production V-8 in the world"

That's one hell of a statement ... when is this car going to hit the streets ?

And is the new argument "ZR1 vs GT500" ?
I doubt anything changes with the 2013 in regards to power considering they are only a few months away from production.
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question for ya on this one.

when i was doing my buddys brakes on his 2010, i noticed that the front hubs appear to be capable of taking a drive axle. i'd heard talk in the past of possibly producing an AWD version of the camaro.
don't you think that an AWD camaro or mustang(i don't see this type of hubs on my mustang) would be able to match the gtr?
Wouldn't that be cool? AWD may be the wave of the future on both Camaro and Mustang... Probably 'bout the same time they offer electric models. (don't laugh; it may happen!)
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I think Ford would not produce a 662hp engine just to make smoke show with it. They plan to beat the ZL1, plain and simple. And they will, in straight line. Is that tough to put better tires on this damn car from factory??!!

But around the track, I'm not so sure; the Boss Laguna Seca was lighter and made for cornering and got beat my the ZL1 by a good margin. It will be pretty hard to do make the GT500 corners as good as the Boss, let alone a ZL1.

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Could this be an alternative to a Nissan GT-R?
WTF is the point?? 2 cars that have nothing in common...
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Wouldn't that be cool? AWD may be the wave of the future on both Camaro and Mustang... Probably 'bout the same time they offer electric models. (don't laugh; it may happen!)

the thought of either of our favorite cars in all wheel drive nearly gives me a......well...you know.

the thought of either of them being offered in electric kills the above.
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