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Old 05-30-2012, 06:55 PM   #226
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Not sure if it was mentioned or not yet as I didn't read the whole thread, but it would be nice if the passenger seat slid forward when you flipped it to put stuff/people in the back seat. It's a pain to move the seat forward then flip the back then have to slide it back for someone to sit in the front.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:36 PM   #227
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I would like to see them get there website changed with the 2013 camaros faster!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:38 PM   #228
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Holdup no one is saying you cant complain. We just notice that you seem to want a completely different car but still call it a Camaro. Kind of like those guys that could only have one car and they wanted a 911 but they still wanted to go camping and carry a bunch of gear. That my friend is how you end up with that thing they call a Cayenne. Or maybe you wanted to have friends ride with you in the back seat of you'r 911, now you have the Panamera.

OK, I know your going to accuse me of beating up on you, but I am not. What Im saying is, that it sounds like you wanted a Cadillac SRX. The SRX V6 has the same LFX power plant of the Camaro LT it also has the cargo space the rear seat room you wanted. You would have to give up the convertible top.

Now that I think of it I cant name one modern car that matches your likes. As for the older convertibles that gave you plenty of room, they also ate plenty of gas.

As for Camaro they have always been bad at trunk space and rear seat legroom that only a 17 year old could love.

But that's not why anyone buys a Camaro. We bought it because it did something to us when we looked at it, like it's own kind of magic that makes you fill good.
I think the new Cadillacs are ugly. There is no way I would ever consider an SRX or any other crossover or SUV. I have always only owned 2 doors and would never consider anything else. And I have always had adequate trunk space and rear seat passenger room in all of them. Even in my little Regal that was actually smaller than a Camaro. This is the first one I have owned that does not.

You do not need to have a 1965 Cadillac convertible to have rear seat and trunk room. '60's Mustangs, '69 Camaros, even little Ramblers all had plenty of space (altho Ramblers might not be so cool looking). I wouldn't brag about gas mileage either. My 7.5 liter 1976 Lincoln that gets called a gas pig averages 13 mpg, and my 2012 Camaro with 3.6 liter is getting 16.5 mpg. Not a substantial improvement for 35 years of technology and less than half the engine size and far less weight.

I bought my Camaro not because of any specific love for Camaros. I bought it because unlike every other bland, boring 4 door or crossover that sells because of gas mileage, safety ratings, and financing options, the Camaro sells based on style and power like the great cars of the past used to. But that does not mean it should be totally exempted from being at least somewhat practical.

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Old 05-30-2012, 09:56 PM   #229
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if i had to pick something i would say they need to have 3 inch exhaust factory. this thing sounds way to quiet for me. also i would love to be able to smash the gas and smoke the tires without dumping the clutch AKA more torque. i agree with most of the complaints like the thin paint, i paint cars for a living and when i repaint the stripes on the hood and deck lid the paint if defiantly thin. its the clear coat that is thin. this car is still a super awsome car and im sure alot of these problems will be solved
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:46 PM   #230
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I LOVE this car and wouldn't change much, but a few minor things.
1. The 1LT doesn't come with the garage door opener button.
2. The seat doesn't slide forward when you access the back.
3. The different size cup holders.
4. The super tiny vanity mirror.
But those are very minor things. I may add the paint and cheap plastic to the list in the future, but I've only had the car 3 weeks, so it's not chipped or scuffed yet.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:49 PM   #231
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Update website sooner.

Stop using the stupid allocations for preorders. First come first serve. Use allocations for cars after preorders are filled.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:10 AM   #232
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I love my Camaro and I actually like the interior, but there's always room for improvement:

1. The clutch is incredably weak and stinks when you do any spirited driving. The clutch is what causes the all the 2nd gear grinding issues, it doesn't engage fast enough, which is also why 4k+ rpm shifts can be missed pretty often.

2. Ambient lighting across the dash. Why stop it in the doors? The Buick Lacross has it across the dash, why can't we?

3. Passenger seat that rolls foward in addition to folding forward for rear passenger entry.

4. I wish the windows were a little taller, drive up atms are a PITA
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:18 AM   #233
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I'd like to use the key to unlock the door without the alarm going off. Not all the time of course but sometimes it might be handy to unlock the car without lighting up the whole street.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:26 AM   #234
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I'd like to use the key to unlock the door without the alarm going off. Not all the time of course but sometimes it might be handy to unlock the car without lighting up the whole street.
Go through your owners manual, I think you can customize your lock/unlock settings through the stereo.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:45 AM   #235
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Go through your owners manual, I think you can customize your lock/unlock settings through the stereo.
Thanks for the heads up. I knew you could adjust lock and unlock features through the stereo but I'll check on this one.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:05 AM   #236
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The outside is incredible BUT the interior is just really ugly to me as a camaro owner.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:13 AM   #237
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The only thng that really bothers me about my Camaro is the fact that the rear windows don't roll down !
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:31 AM   #238
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This has got to be one of the funniest threads on this site!
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:31 AM   #239
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The only thng that really bothers me about my Camaro is the fact that the rear windows don't roll down !
Really? With the huge b-pillar in the way, what point could there possibly be in rolling down a 3 inch wide window?
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:00 AM   #240
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Really? With the huge b-pillar in the way, what point could there possibly be in rolling down a 3 inch wide window?
I don't think they mean literally roll down. The fact that it can't roll down some times reminds me of my 92 300zx not a 69 Camaro.


I understand why it cant go down and why it works better the way it is. There are times I wished it could roll them down. Capturing more of the "old school" look, as the kids say.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:24 AM   #241
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Better paint
Power passenger seat
1 piece drive shaft
Better shifter
Better rear visibility
Make it faster to disable the traction nannies (i.e., a switch)
Make the gauges easier to read
Larger visors
Deeper console
Backup camera
Non integrated A/C-stereo
Hand brake lever on driver's side
Door lock button on door near window switch


Despite all of that, I love my camaro.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:47 AM   #242
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I just returned from my first long (2750 mile) road trip. The car performed exactly as anyone could hope for. 29 mpg over all, no observed oil consumption on the dip stick, great handling etc. However, my only complaint is the comfort of the drivers seat. I am 6'3" tall. Around town its ok but on longer trips my lower back lacks support. Even my GMC Canyon has a manual lumbar support adjustment. I guess most of you think the seats are great. Maybe it is because I am tall. I wonder if some of the other tall guys have issues with the seat comfort. I sat in a new Mustang just to check out the seats and they do have a lumbar support in a comparably priced car. Maybe its because our headrests angle foreward for some reason.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:01 PM   #243
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Remove the back seat and make it a roadster with more trunk space. I'm short (5' 5") and I still move the drivers seat all the way back. No one but a 3 years old dwarf can sit back there, lol!
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:08 PM   #244
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:12 PM   #245
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THE DASH BOARD.... the whole freaking dash board..... yea the 2013's will have the 7" screen, but it's toooo low... There will be plenty of sore necks from looking down all the time...
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:19 PM   #246
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If I could fix 1 thing it would have to be the rear end of the car. It feels like driving a pickup truck with how bad the visibility is. The rear window is almost pointless considering how small it is and how little you can actually see. The way the rear fenders bulge out took a while for me to get used to as well. It would have been nice if they had been cut down a little bit more.

Aside from that, it would be nice if the windows were taller. I'm sure GM could increase the window size if they made the doors a bit shorter by a few inches. It would also make sticking my elbow out the window a whole lot easier.

Sometimes I wonder if Lamborghini owners feels the same way. Lol.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:40 PM   #247
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Really? With the huge b-pillar in the way, what point could there possibly be in rolling down a 3 inch wide window?
Remove the B pillar like a 1967-1969 Camaro DUH !!!
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:41 PM   #248
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The cheap brittle plastic they use to cover the bolt on the windshield wipers and the cheap brittle plastic they use for the license plate light fixtures.

I'm on about the 9th little cover for the bolt on the driver's side windshield wiper. I just did a work around for the poor quality license plate light fixtures. Chevy house wanted $65 for the fixtures with pigtail.... which is the only way to buy them. I did not purchase the low quality pkg.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:57 PM   #249
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Have the plastic trim light on dash light up like the door panels. We shouldn't have to do an aftermarket install on this.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:30 PM   #250
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I would change the belt line a little lower. Just wish i could see past the blind spot
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