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Old 12-06-2014, 05:27 PM   #1
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.. Frame/Sub Pics ..

.. Little Help ...

Recently ... (1 Week and a Day) after purchase I had a lady run a STOP sign in front of me and my 2013 ZL1.
All repairs have been completed but, I am a little concerned that my drivers side rail/sub (uni-body) is bent. There is a point where the rail appears to narrow with a factory notch in it, I cannot tell if this is as it should be or Bent?
Any pics of the Sub rail drivers side (holding A/C line) would be GREATLY appreciated. Super easy to see a photo with most CAI intakes, not so sure about factory air box. (Straight down from top would be most useful)
Any and ALL assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-06-2014, 06:00 PM   #2
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I'll try and snap a pic when I get off work later today if nobody else does. Does it drive fine?
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:14 PM   #3
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Yea all good with Repairs .... may just being anal .... did not inspect this part when purchasing, couldn't really see it with stock box anyway.

thx again
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:44 PM   #4
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Can you take a pic of what exactly you want and the we can duplicate it for you?

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Old 12-06-2014, 07:54 PM   #5
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Yea I can tonight ....working till 10 pacific though .....

Just need straight downward shot between shock tower and motor. If CAI equipped super easy to see/photo

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Old 12-07-2014, 07:02 AM   #6
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:59 AM   #7
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Need under hood (frame)pics ....appreciate the post though ... tried taking a few this am to show but, having issues with my phone.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:32 PM   #8
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Sorry, I missed that it was from under the hood.

I was thinking underbody rails.

Without your picture I am guessing where you are talking about for the issue.

However, here are a bunch of other photos that might help. While visiting the COPO center we were allowed to take pictures, so hopefully one of these will be the area of concern.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:29 PM   #9
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Awesome Pics and almost exactly what I needed. On pic #9366 right below the shock tower is an oval cut out, my frame (sub/uni) bends SLIGHTLY toward the center of the car exactly at that spot. from photo (side) I cannot tell if this is Normal but, am hoping someone else who looks now may be able to tell if theirs does as well. Returning to Body shop tomorrow for a hood adjustment and hopefully no Sub replace/totaling out of my car.

thx, MUCH for the Pics Great HELP!!!

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Old 12-07-2014, 06:26 PM   #10
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:36 PM   #11
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Damn Phone

I am having phone issues .... (just another thing) ... sorry ... all I need now is pic taken straight down at frame rail from directly behind CAI (for those who have them) the area is wide open after install. The rail which holds the A.C line is the one in question.

thx again to all those who have helped.(and shown patience ) If I get my %^@#$% phone to work properly I will STILL post a pic of area.

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Old 12-07-2014, 07:35 PM   #12
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pics of bend?

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Old 12-07-2014, 07:37 PM   #13
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OK so just to the right of the sharpie .... What ya all think???

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Old 12-07-2014, 09:33 PM   #14
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I see that crease in the COPO frame.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:38 PM   #15
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I just went out to look at mine (never in an accident)..

My car looks like your pictures.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:50 PM   #16
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OP , you can sleep in peace
Just checked my unit , it has at least 6 indentations only on that side , from the very beginning off that section all the way to the firewall
Brand new car , and I think that's what they call ( crimple ) zones , to absorb the forces when and if it gets in a violent front impact

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Old 12-07-2014, 10:11 PM   #17
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... ahhh

... Old Fr. you have NO idea .... Now maybe I can sleep ..... vc

thx all appreciate you taking the time to look


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Let's see if this one is more visible
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Gee , I almost collapsed into the engine bay , when I saw all of those crimples :-)
My wife had to get me a double shot off Madeira wine , that thing still works ( the wine , there is )
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... Old Fr. you have NO idea .... Now maybe I can sleep ..... vc

thx all appreciate you taking the time to look


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You can look into that area , along the rail , all the way to the firewall , and you will see 6 of them , at ~6" intervals , so nothing to worry about
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:26 PM   #21
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Check these out

Hope these come out well .....

bought my ZL1 from another Camaro fanatic. Cloned "Nickey" 427 Canaro (look for it at Spring Barrett Jackson) The reflection of one car in the other is pretty Cool I think.

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Old 12-07-2014, 11:30 PM   #22
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... Other a MINT '69 SS Hard Top ....(Clone also)
Search out 'Arizona Muscle Cars by Mike Kaiser' for many more Old school Muscle Cars/Camaros
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:08 AM   #23
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OP , you can sleep in peace
Just checked my unit , it has at least 6 indentations only on that side , from the very beginning off that section all the way to the firewall
Brand new car , and I think that's what they call ( crimple ) zones , to absorb the forces when and if it gets in a violent front impact

Here you go


BINGO..WE HAVE A WINNER....I work for GM in manufacturing sheet metal. Specifically underbody rails and Body Side Outers. So yes, now that he has confirmed those indentations are where he is looking, I can back your statement. These are intentional, exactly as mentioned above. GOOD HELP EVERYONE.
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Old 12-09-2014, 02:41 AM   #24
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What did the look like after it got smacked?
Got any Pics?
How much did the repair cost? Was it over $6K?
Did the airbags blow?

I've seen major damage and no bent frame....
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I've seen not so major damage with a bent frame.

Even an expert can only speculate as to "frame damage" until they get it on a frame machine.....which insurance companies avoid like ebola....cuz then they are pressured to total the car.

Things can bend and twist and not always show unless they put it on a machine. They obviously didn't put your car on a machine, cuz then you would know.......but you own it now.

Did they have to re-align the car? What were the specs? Frame damage affects how much adjustment is required to get back to OEM alignment specs......too much damage will prevent a return to OEM alignment.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:02 AM   #25
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PS....your engine compartment is really dirty.....
Body shops create TONS of dust that gets everywhere in a car especially underneath and in the engine compartment......you should ask em to clean that.....they hate doing it....but come on.....its a 2013 ZL1...engine compartment should be CLEAN.......cuz Clean is Fast!
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