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Old 12-07-2014, 11:24 AM   #1
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zl1 Brake Pads?

Hey guys can anyone recommend a good brake pad with low dust? i know ill give up some performance, but i can't stand the dust!
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:49 AM   #2
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:53 AM   #3
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Hawk yellow pads
Are those the same as Hawk ceramic pads?
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:19 PM   #4
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From my experience, I would tell you to save your money.

I replaced the stock pads with these Hawk Low Dust ceramics and it reduced the the amount brake dust by maybe 10% at best. I still have to clean brake dust off my wheels if I drive more than a mile or two.

As far as performance, the drop-off from stock to these pads is almost imperceptible, at least with street use. My biggest complaint is the low dust isn't really that much lower.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:52 PM   #5
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My wheels are black. I don't notice much dust, lol.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:19 PM   #6
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how many miles you guys getting on average before needing to replace them?
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #7
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From my experience, I would tell you to save your money.

I replaced the stock pads with these Hawk Low Dust ceramics and it reduced the the amount brake dust by maybe 10% at best. I still have to clean brake dust off my wheels if I drive more than a mile or two.

As far as performance, the drop-off from stock to these pads is almost imperceptible, at least with street use. My biggest complaint is the low dust isn't really that much lower.
Shit, seriously? I just bought these under the impression it reduced dust by A LOT!

Anyone else not seeing a huge difference using them?
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:26 PM   #8
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Shit, seriously? I just bought these under the impression it reduced dust by A LOT!

Anyone else not seeing a huge difference using them?
I don't know if the formulation is differrent that the Corvette pads, but the Corvette folks like them. Of course most of them probably don't push the car hard. Maybe that's why a couple people here have noticed dusting still.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:28 PM   #9
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My wheels are black. I don't notice much dust, lol.

Exactly why I powder coated mine.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:44 PM   #10
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Any ceramic pad will reduce dust but lets face it, every time you stop you are grinding down pad and rotor to slow the vehicle. Even if the pads don't dust the rotors will. I have not used ceramics on my ZL1 because I need the stopping power but on other cars I noticed a significant improvement using ceramic pads. Hawk pads are good and there are other brands available.
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Most threads I am reading say these ceramic pads reduce dusting to almost non-existent... I am surprised to see anyone saying otherwise. I'm curious to see if anyone else is seeing no difference as well.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:51 PM   #12
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Most threads I am reading say these ceramic pads reduce dusting to almost non-existent... I am surprised to see anyone saying otherwise. I'm curious to see if anyone else is seeing no difference as well.
I bought the ceramics pads thinking the same thing. I was sick and tired of having to constantly clean my wheels for car shows and was hoping they would allow me to get by with less cleaning. No such thing. I'll clean the wheels before leaving for the show and then I have to clean them again when I get there.

They may reduce some of the dust but they clearly don't eliminate it like I thought they would.
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My wheels are black. I don't notice much dust, lol.
Really, I have black wheels too. if I go a week during the summer months without cleaning my wheels they'll start to look bronze in color from all the dust. I also get brake dust build-up all over the back quarter panels.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:18 PM   #14
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Really, I have black wheels too. if I go a week during the summer months without cleaning my wheels they'll start to look bronze in color from all the dust. I also get brake dust build-up all over the back quarter panels.
It probably blends in with the dust/dirt since I live down a dirt road in Arizona, lol.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:24 PM   #15
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I bought the ceramics pads thinking the same thing. I was sick and tired of having to constantly clean my wheels for car shows and was hoping they would allow me to get by with less cleaning. No such thing. I'll clean the wheels before leaving for the show and then I have to clean them again when I get there.

They may reduce some of the dust but they clearly don't eliminate it like I thought they would.
Great.. So would you even bother installing them if you could go back and do it over?
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:38 PM   #16
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I have EBC redstuff and have been happy with them. great bite and about 50% less dust. they dust like crazy for the first 500 miles though until theyre broken in and bedded.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:13 PM   #17
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From my experience, I would tell you to save your money.

I replaced the stock pads with these Hawk Low Dust ceramics and it reduced the the amount brake dust by maybe 10% at best. I still have to clean brake dust off my wheels if I drive more than a mile or two.

As far as performance, the drop-off from stock to these pads is almost imperceptible, at least with street use. My biggest complaint is the low dust isn't really that much lower.
I run these pads. The BEST!
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Great.. So would you even bother installing them if you could go back and do it over?
No I would not.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:25 AM   #19
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No I would not.
Back they go then! Thanks for the info.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:42 AM   #20
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Shit, seriously? I just bought these under the impression it reduced dust by A LOT!

Anyone else not seeing a huge difference using them?
Hey man just wanted to tell ya before you go returning you hawk ceramics. I'm not sure why the other guys aren't noticing it but I have chrome wheels and ever since I changed my pads to the hawk ceramics I would say on a low side I have at least 75 percent less brake dust. It's been a very cost effective mod for me cause of the less cleaning and less aggravation. Also I have notice no change in performance while daily driving. I can not comment on track use.
I would get more opinions though before you just listen to one guy.. ..many people getting the same results as myself, just check a couple of the already tons of threads on these pads..

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Old 12-08-2014, 08:37 AM   #21
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Hey man just wanted to tell ya before you go returning you hawk ceramics. I'm not sure why the other guys aren't noticing it but I have chrome wheels and ever since I changed my pads to the hawk ceramics I would say on a low side I have at least 75 percent less brake dust. It's been a very cost effective mod for me cause of the less cleaning and less aggravation. Also I have notice no change in performance while daily driving. I can not comment on track use.
I would get more opinions though before you just listen to one guy.. ..many people getting the same results as myself, just check a couple of the already tons of threads on these pads..

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I agree. at least 75% lower brake dust and no question better all around braking. I have used these pads on a few vehicles with the Brembo set up including an SRT Jeep that has much larger calipers then the Camaro and am always happy. Your making a mistake if you return them. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:54 AM   #22
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Wheel wax helps a lot. I put four coats on each wheel (took 'em off the car and waxed them inside and out). Now I can spray off 80% of the brake dust with a hose. The rest I wipe with a microfiber.
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Hmmm... Interesting. Now I'm torn. I want a lot less dust but don't really wanna do the swap if it isn't gonna do much..
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Look, the Hawk pads are very good. And from a performance stand point I have no complaints what so ever. My beef is they don't reduce the brake dust to the degree I thought they would.

Case in point. My wheels were throughly cleaned Nov 11 when I swapped out my OEM wheels for my winters wheels. I've had my car out 5 times since -- about a 125 miles of total driving. Here's the dust I wiped off the front passenger wheel.

Guess I expected a low dust brake pad to produce significantly less dust than this after 125 miles.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:00 PM   #25
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Wheel wax helps a lot. I put four coats on each wheel (took 'em off the car and waxed them inside and out). Now I can spray off 80% of the brake dust with a hose. The rest I wipe with a microfiber.
Agree with the Wax. I was skeptical at first, but the for the easy option, I recommend this, works great:

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