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Old 06-08-2012, 09:34 AM   #51
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Ok! Picked up #1400 yesterday and at 109 miles I had a Power Steering loss in my driveway. Let it sit for ~7min, fixed itself but I called my service adviser and let him know about it. Happens again, it will go into the dealer to get looked at.
We are glad that you made it safely! Please let me know if you have any additional concerns with this. I look forward to your updates.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:14 AM   #52
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I have seen this many times on the Cobalt. The ZL1 uses a very similar set up. The fix on the Cobalt was to replace the entire steering column. My guess on the ZL1 is a software problem.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:28 AM   #53
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We are glad that you made it safely! Please let me know if you have any additional concerns with this. I look forward to your updates.

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Im glad people are making it home safely as well, but what is GM doing to fix this issue?? Are people going to have to wreck first and then put it on CNN before they do anything to fix the issue as a whole?? I would hate for a prius type debacle to have to take place before it gets fixed. Right now it seems this is a wait and see how many people are going to complain, then figure the cost out, then decide whos dollar its going to be on, the customer or GM
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #54
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Why do you make assumptions with no data? I deal with this type of thing every day in my work. People tell me, "this is happening all the time" and you need to fix it right away. Then I ask for data and I hear crickets.

This may or not be a problem and we should not jump to conclusion without the facts!
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:41 AM   #55
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Why do you make assumptions with no data? I deal with this type of thing every day in my work. People tell me, "this is happening all the time" and you need to fix it right away. Then I ask for data and I hear crickets.

This may or not be a problem and we should not jump to conclusion without the facts!
Assumptions.....
Hmm I just did a quick read of just this thread and there has been 6 reported failures. To me thats a pretty big number considering the low build number and the low collection we have in the thread. How many people have not logged onto C5 and reported this???

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A steering failure is a serious problem!
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:27 AM   #56
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Assumptions.....
Hmm I just did a quick read of just this thread and there has been 6 reported failures. To me thats a pretty big number considering the low build number and the low collection we have in the thread. How many people have not logged onto C5 and reported this???

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A steering failure is a serious problem!
You're right. Someone should start a class action lawsuit against GM for producing cars with flaws and DEMAND that every single car with ANY type of flaw either gets replaced IMMEDIATLY with a brand new PERFECT car. If GM fails to do this by next Friday, GM should be forced to dissove itself imediatly and withdraw from the automotive industry totally.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:46 AM   #57
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It's not a mechanical problem... I want to know what's wrong with my software that caused my power steering to fail while I was trying to park in a busy parking lot! This is a software problem, and we all have the same software! It could happen to any of you
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #58
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You're right. Someone should start a class action lawsuit against GM for producing cars with flaws and DEMAND that every single car with ANY type of flaw either gets replaced IMMEDIATLY with a brand new PERFECT car. If GM fails to do this by next Friday, GM should be forced to dissove itself imediatly and withdraw from the automotive industry totally.

No where did I say that I wanted it fix by friday or any small flaws. This is a severe safety issue that should he highlighted and moved the front to ensure no ones dies.

This type of thinking is eactly what got GM in the red in the first place. If you are willing to accept this type of substandard product and put your life and families life on the line thats your agenda. Just makes be wonder what other substandards you accept.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:49 PM   #59
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You think someone is going to die because of this?
Of course it needs to be investigated, facts collected and fixed.
I didn't expect it to be ignored, what I am referring to is knee jerk over reactions.

It will only affect these cars at slow speeds, worst case, you are going too fast in a parking lot, don't have time to react (as in STOP) in a parking lot when it fails.

If you are driving on the highway, you will still be able to switch lanes etc with ease.

Fix the problem, but don't raise the big red flag until it is necessary. The ramifications of knee jerk reactions often cause more damage than the problem did.

I am sure that the dealerships that deal with it, have it reported back to a central database. The problem and the fix will be published when they have it.

If it is critical and requires it, there will be a recall, if not they will address it.

YOu have many assumptions in your message and they just aren't fair.
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Looks like GM already had a past history with this issue with pontiac. had over 1100 complaints, 14 accidents with at least 1 injury.

you say that loss of cant cause a death? So what you are saying is doing a legal u-turn and you lose power steering which can force you into a lane you were not planning to be in doesnt sound like it could potentially put you at risk for a serious accident?

I go through several day to day driving habits that loss of power steering puts you a risk of wrecking the vehicle. Like I said before if you are willing drive in a car that has a decent chance of losing power steering with out warning thats fine by me. All Im asking for is what is plan for this. It is a issue that needs to be addressed as its a saftey issue.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:19 AM   #61
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i had power steering problem at 25 miles,stop at the store,back in the car start her up no power steering, i shut down the car 10 sec,start up again,still no power steering,drive it home (about 5 miles) stop the car for 20 min start again and evrything ok??? number 1589
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #62
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Anytime this happens the car needs to be taken in for service and GM needs to be notified. That way they can't say it's an isolated incidence. It will never get fixed if only one or two owners report the problem and the rest of the them write it off as an isolated incidence because it seems to have resolved itself. If it happens to me I'll report it to the NHTSA. It is serious and nobody can prove it is only a low speed issue.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:25 PM   #63
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Has anyone else checked the connector that XxxReaperxxX discovered to be loose on his car? (Post #32) He hasn't reported back with a problem since making sure the connector was 'clicked' in. Curious to know if anyone else with the power steering issue finds this loose on their car as well.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:55 PM   #64
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Due to the history I have read in this thread, I would like to know where the Ground post/lug and Battery Buss link are for the Power steering unit and check if they're loose first.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:40 AM   #65
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i had power steering problem at 25 miles,stop at the store,back in the car start her up no power steering, i shut down the car 10 sec,start up again,still no power steering,drive it home (about 5 miles) stop the car for 20 min start again and evrything ok??? number 1589
I do apologize for the frustrations you may be experiencing with this concern. The best thing to do is to take it to your local dealership for service to see if they can diagnose the issue. If you have any other questions and are still experiencing the issues after the service appointment, feel free to contact GM of Canada at 800-263-3777.

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Old 06-19-2012, 11:40 AM   #67
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I do apologize for the frustrations you may be experiencing with this concern. The best thing to do is to take it to your local dealership for service to see if they can diagnose the issue. If you have any other questions and are still experiencing the issues after the service appointment, feel free to contact GM of Canada at 800-263-3777.

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Hi Brandon

I am not frustrated at all,being a mecanic for the past 26 years hi have
seen it all,when i get the time i am going to have a good look at it to
see if i can find anything wrong whit the PS.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:12 PM   #68
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Hi Brandon

I am not frustrated at all,being a mecanic for the past 26 years hi have
seen it all,when i get the time i am going to have a good look at it to
see if i can find anything wrong whit the PS.
I'd be very interested in your findings snake411, as doubtless would most of us on the forum. Thanks.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:22 PM   #69
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I'd prefer a proper manual rack and pinion over electric steering
I myself also prefer proper racks when I go manual on them... :tweetz:
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:57 AM   #70
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I'm sad to say that today my eps failed. I will be at the dealership tomorrow to possibly get it fixed. This is a real issue. I have 3500 miles.
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Damn.... I'm sorry you guys are having these issues with the car... I hope you all get them resolved quickly and to your satisfaction.
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power steering

Stalled mine the first day I had it. When I restarted it the "service power steering" messege came on and the steering was gone. Called the dealer and they said to wait a minute and re-start it. That fixed the problem.
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I'm sad to say that today my eps failed. I will be at the dealership tomorrow to possibly get it fixed. This is a real issue. I have 3500 miles.
I am sorry to hear of this! Please let me know if your dealership was able to address your concerns with the power steering. This sounds like it may be something that is covered under warranty.

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Old 07-20-2012, 09:01 AM   #74
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Not an owner, but I am doing my homework for a possible future purchase.
I have been reading about the issues with the ZL1 and in doing so noticed the thread by CamZL1 on the major problems with oil leaking. In that thread the mechanic at the dealership mentioned that the wiring for the power steering was very close to a razor sharp support bracket. It seems to be the factory routing of the harness and I am wondering if anyone had noted that this might be an issue with the failure rate being so high. The mechanic noted that if the harness was left in that position it would eventually chafe through and cause a failure.
In an unrelated ussue I had with my 2010 Equinox, I had a service air bag light come on. The problem was a bulletin on the connectors for the seat harness. They were causing the problem. The new "upgraded" connectors have solved the problem. Could this be a connector issue? The turn it off and wait rememdy had worked until it would not reset itself. Four times at the dealer before they fixed it.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:22 PM   #75
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Stalled mine the first day I had it. When I restarted it the "service power steering" messege came on and the steering was gone. Called the dealer and they said to wait a minute and re-start it. That fixed the problem.
That's a weird definition of fixed.

I'm sure it'll be figured out soon
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