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MustangKiller · 05-21-2012, 04:25 PM

Does anyone else have this ? I have an inch side too side in gear or not but its tiggt front too back

Aries240SS · 05-21-2012, 04:41 PM

Yep. Mine does it, and it seems normal from the other cars I've driven with this shifter.

Synner · 05-21-2012, 06:26 PM

There was a thread a while back about a bushing going bad that caused excess slop. Hurst was sending out free replacements to people who called.

I would never accept that much slop in a performance car shifter.

MustangKiller · 05-21-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

There was a thread a while back about a bushing going bad that caused excess slop. Hurst was sending out free replacements to people who called.

I would never accept that much slop in a performance car shifter.

do you think you could find that thread for me please and yeah is unacceptable play it feels like a piece of crap im pretty let down.....

96MrBass · 05-21-2012, 06:48 PM

How many miles do you guys have on this shifter? I only have about a half inch with 6200mi on it.

Synner · 05-21-2012, 07:00 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151010

blazzin1 · 05-21-2012, 09:14 PM

I have the same issue. I called Hurst, and they were quick to send me a replacement bushing for free, but I haven't installed it yet. Not really a big deal to me, still love the shifter.

toml_pa · 05-22-2012, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151010

An inch seems like excessive play for just the bushing. Might be loose bolts holding top part of shifter. See post #105 in above thread for fix.

NH-SS · 05-23-2012, 06:51 AM

I installed the Hurst shifter, after only a few hundred miles on it the side play was rediculous. I called Hurst and they sent out a "new" design bushing. I recieved it and it was the same as originally that came with the shifter. What I did to fix the problem was design and MFG my own. I made a split bushing out of oilite bronze, I Incresed the side surface area ( to increse side load stability ) Turned the O.D for a +.001 slip fit. I bored the I.D to -.0005 under size then took the original locating pin and burnished the bore to the pin. Installed and has been driven for over 5k miles. It's just perfect. I had my car serviced last week ( Z06 clutch assemlbey ) and the service guy asked,.. who did your shifter install ? I laughed.

toml_pa · 05-23-2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH-SS

I installed the Hurst shifter, after only a few hundred miles on it the side play was rediculous. I called Hurst and they sent out a "new" design bushing. I recieved it and it was the same as originally that came with the shifter. What I did to fix the problem was design and MFG my own. I made a split bushing out of oilite bronze, I Incresed the side surface area ( to increse side load stability ) Turned the O.D for a +.001 slip fit. I bored the I.D to -.0005 under size then took the original locating pin and burnished the bore to the pin. Installed and has been driven for over 5k miles. It's just perfect. I had my car serviced last week ( Z06 clutch assemlbey ) and the service guy asked,.. who did your shifter intall ? I laughed.

I made one out of the factory bushing which is more durable material than the Hurst bushing. I have maybe 1/8" play at the handle of my shifter.

HtownSS · 05-23-2012, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH-SS

I installed the Hurst shifter, after only a few hundred miles on it the side play was rediculous. I called Hurst and they sent out a "new" design bushing. I recieved it and it was the same as originally that came with the shifter. What I did to fix the problem was design and MFG my own. I made a split bushing out of oilite bronze, I Incresed the side surface area ( to increse side load stability ) Turned the O.D for a +.001 slip fit. I bored the I.D to -.0005 under size then took the original locating pin and burnished the bore to the pin. Installed and has been driven for over 5k miles. It's just perfect. I had my car j
serviced last week ( Z06 clutch assemlbey ) and the service guy asked,.. who did your shifter intall ? I laughed.

I need one how much? I'm on my third Hurst bushing, they last for couple months then back to sloppy.

Nessal · 05-23-2012, 08:26 PM

Mine was pretty tight in the.beginning and the slopped up a few months down the road.

HtownSS · 05-23-2012, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nessal

Mine was pretty tight in the.beginning and the slopped up a few months down the road.

Whoa! We start the sloppy shifter club.

MustangKiller · 05-23-2012, 10:10 PM

Well i called them and finally got someone on the line... At first i got the old ..we havnt had any reports of that untill i said o yeah so all the guys on camaro5 are crazy then? And then he said "sir ill get those out too you right away" he said he was sending me a few so we will see. I really feel that this is unexcusable especialy coming from HURST? Am i right or wrong? So i basicly paid for shiny shifter with more slop then the factory one ? Im so confused

NH-SS · 05-24-2012, 05:27 AM

The issue is that the Hurst bushing is made from (PTFE) Teflon, I believe. And while this is excellent for low friction applications and smooth surface to surface operation it has a very low tensile strength and an RC of 55. I designed and made one from oilite bronze (SEA 841) that has inherent self lubricating properties. In my opinion this is what Hurst should be using for a bushing material.

skar · 05-24-2012, 11:31 AM

I have read that the Barton's & others also do it so it sounds like its in the trans linkage to me. Mine seems to be the same after only ? 500 miles .No more slop then the stock but to early to tell.

RenegadeSS · 05-24-2012, 08:15 PM

Does anyone have a picture, and dimensions for this bushing. Becausse I have a full machine shop at my command, and I can put a job to have a couple made.

05-21-2012, 04:41 PM	#2
Aries240SS Drives: 2011 1SS RS Camaro, 1995 LSX 240SX Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 291	Yep. Mine does it, and it seems normal from the other cars I've driven with this shifter. __________________ 2011 Camaro 1SS/RS Hotchkis Chassis Brace, Rotofab Intake, Hurst Short Shifter, BMR Springs / Trailing Arms / Sways, Nitrous Outlet 150 Shot, SubThump Stealth Box, TSP 1 7/8 Headers, VMax TB, JRE Scoop, Rotofab Washer Relocation, JRE Tune

05-23-2012, 06:51 AM	#9
NH-SS Drives: 2010 SS2,6M Join Date: May 2012 Location: NH Posts: 80	I installed the Hurst shifter, after only a few hundred miles on it the side play was rediculous. I called Hurst and they sent out a "new" design bushing. I recieved it and it was the same as originally that came with the shifter. What I did to fix the problem was design and MFG my own. I made a split bushing out of oilite bronze, I Incresed the side surface area ( to increse side load stability ) Turned the O.D for a +.001 slip fit. I bored the I.D to -.0005 under size then took the original locating pin and burnished the bore to the pin. Installed and has been driven for over 5k miles. It's just perfect. I had my car serviced last week ( Z06 clutch assemlbey ) and the service guy asked,.. who did your shifter install ? I laughed. Last edited by NH-SS; 05-25-2012 at 04:35 AM.

05-24-2012, 11:31 AM	#16
skar Drives: 2010 2SSRS headers/CAI/tune/corsa, Join Date: May 2010 Location: Commerce twp Michigan Posts: 1,278	I have read that the Barton's & others also do it so it sounds like its in the trans linkage to me. Mine seems to be the same after only ? 500 miles .No more slop then the stock but to early to tell. __________________ Stainless works headers/cats Roto fab CAI / Corsa and install and tune Livernois TSW Nuburgring 9 &10" x20 on Invos JL Audio XD400/4 amp Pfadt trailing arms & tie rods sway bars. pedders street 1 package

05-24-2012, 08:15 PM	#17
RenegadeSS Drives: Camaro LLT Join Date: May 2012 Location: Garfield, NJ Posts: 251	Does anyone have a picture, and dimensions for this bushing. Becausse I have a full machine shop at my command, and I can put a job to have a couple made. __________________ Me with all this horsepower, and no room to gallop! Mods are as follows. Flowmaster thunder axle back, Magnaflow resonated x-pipe, Custom Inkonel mid pipes, BBK short ram, RX Black Ice-olator, BBK headers with titanium wrap, V- Max Plenum spacer, Barton short throw shifter, TWM Big Type R weighted Shift nob, Goodrich SS lines, EBC Red stuff pads, Grant steering wheel, RX ported throttle body, RX catch can, Soon to come. RX supercharger, TSW tanaka & nitto invo red line, 1LE shocks, PFADT 1" drop springs, Full BMR bushings.

05-21-2012, 04:25 PM	#1
MustangKiller Drives: 2013 2ss/rs A6 yellow !!!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Woodbine Maryland Posts: 379	Hurst billet plus side too side play Does anyone else have this ? I have an inch side too side in gear or not but its tiggt front too back

05-21-2012, 06:26 PM	#3
Synner Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sandbox Posts: 2,157	There was a thread a while back about a bushing going bad that caused excess slop. Hurst was sending out free replacements to people who called. I would never accept that much slop in a performance car shifter.

05-21-2012, 06:48 PM	#5
96MrBass OSOSIK Drives: 2010 SS LS3 /2005 SS Silverado Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 339	How many miles do you guys have on this shifter? I only have about a half inch with 6200mi on it.

05-21-2012, 07:00 PM	#6
Synner Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sandbox Posts: 2,157	http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151010

05-21-2012, 09:14 PM	#7
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Fargo, ND Posts: 3,286 View My Garage	I have the same issue. I called Hurst, and they were quick to send me a replacement bushing for free, but I haven't installed it yet. Not really a big deal to me, still love the shifter.

05-23-2012, 08:26 PM	#12
Nessal Drives: 2011 SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,220	Mine was pretty tight in the.beginning and the slopped up a few months down the road.

05-23-2012, 10:10 PM	#14
MustangKiller Drives: 2013 2ss/rs A6 yellow !!!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Woodbine Maryland Posts: 379	Well i called them and finally got someone on the line... At first i got the old ..we havnt had any reports of that untill i said o yeah so all the guys on camaro5 are crazy then? And then he said "sir ill get those out too you right away" he said he was sending me a few so we will see. I really feel that this is unexcusable especialy coming from HURST? Am i right or wrong? So i basicly paid for shiny shifter with more slop then the factory one ? Im so confused

05-24-2012, 05:27 AM	#15
NH-SS Drives: 2010 SS2,6M Join Date: May 2012 Location: NH Posts: 80	The issue is that the Hurst bushing is made from (PTFE) Teflon, I believe. And while this is excellent for low friction applications and smooth surface to surface operation it has a very low tensile strength and an RC of 55. I designed and made one from oilite bronze (SEA 841) that has inherent self lubricating properties. In my opinion this is what Hurst should be using for a bushing material.