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Old 08-07-2013, 10:12 AM   #1
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Correct application for spark plugs with NOS!

I am currently installing a nos system on my lfx, and have read in the forums about spark plugs for supercharging, but havent really seen a good answer for nos applications.one step cooler or two? Ngk tr6, or what?any help is appriciated, what are you all running and shot size with it? Also, noticed a good debate on gapping.Once again, from what i have read it was more aimed towards superchargers. I know there is the common rule as well for 2 degrees per 50 hp to retard timing, however, most kits that i have seen havent specified for that on kits of 100hp or less, is this not needed? Thank you all, for your help.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:22 AM   #2
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Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap

so far i only sprayed the 50shot and did not change the timing at all. I will be putting the 100 shot jets in next week and will be having the car tuned on the dyno. My guess, 3 or 4 degrees of timing will be pulled from it. I plan to run a separate tune for the nitrous because of that.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:25 PM   #3
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That is the answer. 100 HP pills FTW.

QUOTE=IneedAZ;6868138]Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap


so far i only sprayed the 50shot and did not change the timing at all. I will be putting the 100 shot jets in next week and will be having the car tuned on the dyno. My guess, 3 or 4 degrees of timing will be pulled from it. I plan to run a separate tune for the nitrous because of that.[/QUOTE]
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:10 PM   #4
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I guess ive always understoof not to use irradium plugs on a motor w nos, hints why i mentiined the ngk tr6 plug, however i am not familiar sith the direct injected motor, so i assume at this point the rules have changed? Is this what the nos manufacturer suggested?
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:30 AM   #5
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Guys you want to run a non projected, copper plug. The reason behind this is because iridium plugs are so tough that by the time the plug burns down something else is already hurt. With a copper plug, ideally you will melt the plug down before something in the motor gets broken.
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Any suggestions on what to use?
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I was told Brisk RR14S...
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I was told Brisk RR14S...
That is correct! "Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap" however is NOT the plug I would recommend on any nitrous application.
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That is correct! "Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap" however is NOT the plug I would recommend on any nitrous application.
Really? That wad what I was gonna run.... hmm
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That is correct! "Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap" however is NOT the plug I would recommend on any nitrous application.
I hear people talk about not running them with NOS, however a few members on the forum are running them with NOS with over 100 passes without issue.
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That is correct! "Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap" however is NOT the plug I would recommend on any nitrous application.
How much colder then stock are the Brisk RR14S ?
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How much colder then stock are the Brisk RR14S ?

Curious for this aswell
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I'm always willing to learn new ideas. How do these plugs run when N/A? What gap do you recommend? So by using those plugs if you end up in a lean condition where the plug would melt quicker than the XPs you mean that could save an engine by not firing the plug due to a melt down of the plug. Leading to a misfire that the driver could feel and hoping the driver lets off of the pedal to save their engine. I could see that reason. In closing if you are melting ANY sparkplug you have bigger issues to address with you nitrous/FI system. I don't mind spending $11.00 per plug, but I'm just asking before I spend so please don't take my questions the wrong way.

"Guys you want to run a non projected, copper plug. The reason behind this is because iridium plugs are so tough that by the time the plug burns down something else is already hurt. With a copper plug, ideally you will melt the plug down before something in the motor gets broken."
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Also, why is there no mention of this plug fitting the LFX camaro?
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This is exactly why i posted this, i have always ran an ngk tr6, granted i dont know the specs for a direct injected motor, this is what every gm vehicle i have had has used to this point. I have books on nos and even quotes for "older" motors to use these plugs, but due to the newer breed of motor, i wanted to raise the question. Not looking to start an arguement, but to hopefully get everyone properly informed and on the same page. The unfortunate part is that these plugs may not be spec for our cars, due to manufacturers not making the sole purpose nos for them. The "brisk" plug mentioned , is by a nitrous dealer, that is also a dealer for the product, although it has probably been tested with nos, due to the nature of fi, it probably doesnt have any guarantee. I would be nice to have a couple options for plugs as far as manufacturers.
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This is exactly why i posted this, i have always ran an ngk tr6, granted i dont know the specs for a direct injected motor, this is what every gm vehicle i have had has used to this point. I have books on nos and even quotes for "older" motors to use these plugs, but due to the newer breed of motor, i wanted to raise the question. Not looking to start an arguement, but to hopefully get everyone properly informed and on the same page. The unfortunate part is that these plugs may not be spec for our cars, due to manufacturers not making the sole purpose nos for them. The "brisk" plug mentioned , is by a nitrous dealer, that is also a dealer for the product, although it has probably been tested with nos, due to the nature of fi, it probably doesnt have any guarantee. I would be nice to have a couple options for plugs as far as manufacturers.
Bold in question is why I am waiting for a response, not wanting to start an argument either and frankly, money isnt an option for engine safetey when it comes to somethign as simple as a plug.

just wanting proper information.
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*sigh* seems as though this plug thread/question will go into the depths. wish we could get a solid answer for everyone...
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would be nice since i plan to run the 100 jets saturday when we tune the car and run it. I think since ETMX183 has made over 100 passes with the autolites i will be ok.
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I know a few of the early nitrous guys ran NGK LTR7IX -11 6510 iridum. which is what I ran as well, on 100shot.
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question, are the plugs and heat ranges the same on the LLT and LFX?
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not sure. I know the stock LLT plugs are a cold 6, and the ngk's are one step colder, 7.
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I just wish there was a definitive answer!
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