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Old 06-15-2012, 06:32 PM   #76
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It has some type of metal on it? Seriously I wish I knew what a healthy one looked like and could offer some intelligent insight. Wondering if im gonna have the same problemo... I guess my kit is shipping out at the end of next week. Will be watching this with keen interest. How much is a MAF sensor?
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:33 PM   #77
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Pictures of my current MAF. Thoughts?



You could just be maxed out. Data log and send to Vince. Are you tuned for the extra HP? But it could also be a faulty MAF. When me and Tracy took out my old one it look fine, but it wasn't.


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Old 06-15-2012, 06:57 PM   #78
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Well Tracy loaded in a base tune from Vince the day I got it. But I don't think that was tuned for the over drive pulley. I just emailed Vince about possibly dataloging and checking out the MAF setting. However tomorrow is Saturday so I dunno. UGH, so frustrating.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:16 PM   #79
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Well Tracy loaded in a base tune from Vince the day I got it. But I don't think that was tuned for the over drive pulley. I just emailed Vince about possibly dataloging and checking out the MAF setting. However tomorrow is Saturday so I dunno. UGH, so frustrating.
That's the only down fall of going FI in a LLT. Vince is really the only choice, I sent him a log 3 weeks ago and no update yet. And he doesn't respond to messages also.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:22 PM   #80
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That's the only down fall of going FI in a LLT. Vince is really the only choice, I sent him a log 3 weeks ago and no update yet. And he doesn't respond to messages also.
Yup, it sucks!

I've been reading on the forums that if you change the MAF location you MUST get a new tune. I do not know if the tune that Tracy loaded in from Vince already took that into account or not. But this could be an issue, I would think.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:42 PM   #81
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Yup, it sucks!

I've been reading on the forums that if you change the MAF location you MUST get a new tune. I do not know if the tune that Tracy loaded in from Vince already took that into account or not. But this could be an issue, I would think.
This is a unknown to me but have heard it before. But I doubt it, look at it like this. All the aftermarket intakes out there now have the MAF in different locations. And none require a tune, So I think Vince just needs to retune for the new power/flow. I'm thinking this Jet MAF could solve the issue for us if it really does allow more flow. But that's a pretty high price for a MAF. If your 8psi's is equal to my 6psi's we could both be having the same issues.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:46 PM   #82
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If your 8psi's is equal to my 6psi's we could both be having the same issues.
Fingers crossed!
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:51 AM   #83
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*UPDATE*

looks like it was the MAF. Been driving the car around by the hotel for several mins, got on it up until about 6 psi of boost. Looking good so far. I sent Vince a log just now. So it looks like our stupid MAF is the Achilles heel of our FI set ups lol..
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:10 AM   #84
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looks like it was the MAF. Been driving the car around by the hotel for several mins, got on it up until about 6 psi of boost. Looking good so far. I sent Vince a log just now. So it looks like our stupid MAF is the Achilles heel of our FI set ups lol..
That is awesome I been waiting to see an update from you this morning. So now we went from needing a fuel pump to a damn MAF. Was talking with Tracy this morning and we are going to look into the JET Performance MAF. Glad to see you are up and running. But keep a eye on the MAF like every 2 weeks to make sure it looks good. I will post pictures of how mine is splitting when I have the chance.
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Good to hear! I am deffinately investing in a back up MAF sensor
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:18 AM   #86
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That is awesome I been waiting to see an update from you this morning. So now we went from needing a fuel pump to a damn MAF. Was talking with Tracy this morning and we are going to look into the JET Performance MAF. Glad to see you are up and running. But keep a eye on the MAF like every 2 weeks to make sure it looks good. I will post pictures of how mine is splitting when I have the chance.
Well I still have the stock HPFP hope that won't be a problem, but Tracy thinks I'll be ok. Keep me posted on the Jet MAF, I'm curious about it. Also very interested to see the pic of what your MAF looks like.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:24 AM   #87
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That's great news!
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:40 AM   #88
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Humm, now I am MAF Crazy... Wonder if the Phasetek MAF will help out those with the FI also. I am curious as to what Phasetek modified on the OEM MAF. Time for more research. BTW, nice Camaro Baylor, I hope everything works out. I really want a SC along with my MRT V1 exahust. As long as this can get me in the mid to low 13's then I am there.
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:12 PM   #89
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So Baylor your set up with the new pulley is utilizing the stock fuel pump?
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:51 PM   #90
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So Baylor your set up with the new pulley is utilizing the stock fuel pump?
Correct Six, still stock fuel pump.

Btw everyone I'm currently crossing into the Louisiana border. Be home around 11 or so cst, assuming I don't run into issues.
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Correct Six, still stock fuel pump.

Btw everyone I'm currently crossing into the Louisiana border. Be home around 11 or so cst, assuming I don't run into issues.
Good luck man. Have a save rest of the drive. Tell us all Aboit the ass whippings you do along the way!
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:51 PM   #92
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Cool. Drive safe and keep us posted whith your MAF issues. This LLT odyssey into FI kinda reminds me of the little boy and the dike or Chevy Case in Vegas Vacation taking the dam tour.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:38 PM   #93
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I made it back home!

I went the entire time (800 miles) with the chiller turned off, unfortunately that means I didn't have AC! lol. However the temps only reached as high as 3 degrees above ambient temp. The reason I didn't use the chiller was when I took out the old ruined MAF it was REALLY wet. I assume it was wet because of condensation created from the chiller. I am not 100% certain, but I will start running it now that I'm home and we'll see what happens.

Any of you other guys running around with the chiller check to see if their MAF ever gets wet?
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Great!
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Glad you made it home safe and sound. Wet MAF huh? Thats interesting. I decided to forego the chiller and go with the billet pulley and HPFP so my set up for now will be sans super chiller. Interested to see how your MAF issue works out. Do you like your car?
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Sounds like you have a problem with the condensor.
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Glad you made it home safe and sound. Wet MAF huh? Thats interesting. I decided to forego the chiller and go with the billet pulley and HPFP so my set up for now will be sans super chiller. Interested to see how your MAF issue works out. Do you like your car?
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Sounds like you have a problem with the condensor.
How so? I figured the condensation was a result from super cooling the air (mid to high 90's) down to about 55-60.
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Yes, but shouldn't it trap the condensation prior to the intake? You wouldn't want all that water going into your engine, and I'm pretty sure you don't want it on the MAF.

I never really thought about how they would do that, but it seems you would need a condensor after the IC to catch and evaporate the water. Just my thoughts...
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