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Old 05-24-2012, 06:06 PM   #1
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Black Camaro cleaner and wax kit

I have a 2010 black SS, early production R6P and the paint quality isn't the best or even close to being as good as the new Camaro's. I found a cleaner and wax kit from Turtle Wax, it's called Black Box and is specifically for use on black vehicles.

I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any posts on how this kit works. After reading the instructions it appears to be a very intense and time consuming process. You essentially have to do the process in 4 separate steps.

I have a lot of little scratches from pulling the cover over the car. I never noticed them until I was waxing the car one day. The GM cover fits great but it shouldn't cause scratches in the finish but it does. Now I don't cover the car accept when the car goes into winter storage to avoid putting more scratches in the paint.

I will report back how this Black Box kit works, my goal is to get rid of these tiny scratches. If anyone has any experience with it please post how the stuff worked.

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:08 PM   #2
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Didn't it come with any type of information?
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:16 PM   #3
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As far as I remember it has some type Cleaner Polish, 2 bottles of Spray and a wax and some applicators. Some folks like it but they down the road moved to to a PC and proper chemicals for their ride. Let us know how it turns out with a before and after photos.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:34 PM   #4
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I've used this before. It has a bunch of black fillers and will turn everything you use with it black. including your hands. Will never use it again

The fillers fill the scratches for about 2 days, and any weather or washing will remove the fillers. It will NOT correct any swirls or scratches you have. Polishing is the only way to really correct your paint.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:48 PM   #5
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I've used this before. It has a bunch of black fillers and will turn everything you use with it black. including your hands. Will never use it again

The fillers fill the scratches for about 2 days, and any weather or washing will remove the fillers. It will NOT correct any swirls or scratches you have. Polishing is the only way to really correct your paint.
Not what I was hoping to hear, but glad you told me. I wonder if I can spot do it prior to a show or will I be able to see where it was done compared to the rest of the car??

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Old 05-24-2012, 10:24 PM   #6
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Return the kit if possible and order the proper materials. All the info is right at your fingertips on this forum and many others.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:30 AM   #7
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OHIOSS I'm really glad you posted this as I was recently informed of this Black Turtle Wax too and was going to try it. It seems there have been some negative experiences with it though. Are you going to give it a try or return it? I'm still debating. I got my car one month ago and swirl marks are everywhere and it pisses me off. I was hoping this would be a good solution.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:37 AM   #8
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I have used this on my Black S-10 which had alot of little stars under the paint. It worked well for me, but did turn my hand, concret and everting eles it touches black. Use gloves and be carefull of it dripping.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:56 PM   #9
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I bought the Turtle Was Black Quick Detailer spray. Says it will give your black car a deep wet look. Well...it does make it look darker, but it goes on so streaky that I had to use 10 times as much Meguiar's Ultimate Detailer to clean it off. I thought it was going to work great, but it's more pain than it's worth.
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I have a 2010 black SS, early production R6P and the paint quality isn't the best or even close to being as good as the new Camaro's. I found a cleaner and wax kit from Turtle Wax, it's called Black Box and is specifically for use on black vehicles.

I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any posts on how this kit works. After reading the instructions it appears to be a very intense and time consuming process. You essentially have to do the process in 4 separate steps.
The Black Box is designed to fill in swirl marks and create the appearance of highly polished paint. Compared to actual car care it isn't too involved. The results though are not as long lasting as truly polishing and correcting the paint.


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I have a lot of little scratches from pulling the cover over the car. I never noticed them until I was waxing the car one day. The GM cover fits great but it shouldn't cause scratches in the finish but it does. Now I don't cover the car accept when the car goes into winter storage to avoid putting more scratches in the paint.
Car covers don't scratch (generally), it is any dirt that is on the paint (or on the cover) that scratches. Never put a car cover on a dirty car, or a dirty car cover on anything.

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I will report back how this Black Box kit works, my goal is to get rid of these tiny scratches. If anyone has any experience with it please post how the stuff worked.

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Russ, if your goal is to remove the scratches, you will need to use a machine polisher in combination with the correct pads and polishes.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:39 PM   #11
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I've used the black box and was content with the results...however, for the time spent (4 hours), I feel like I should of gotten perfect results out of it. It will be something I use twice a year, not every 3-4 months or so. It does make your car look like a mirror. Here's a pic right after-
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I've used the black box and was content with the results...however, for the time spent (4 hours), I feel like I should of gotten perfect results out of it. It will be something I use twice a year, not every 3-4 months or so. It does make your car look like a mirror. Here's a pic right after-
Perfect paint (a full paint correct) takes MUCH longer then 3-4 hours.
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Perfect paint (a full paint correct) takes MUCH longer then 3-4 hours.
Where are you drivin everyday?
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Where are you drivin everyday?
I don't think you understand what I'm talking about. Perfect paint usually requires paint correction. Paint correction means machine polishing. A full paint correction requires a much longer investment then 3 or 4 hours.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:51 PM   #16
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Just remember that BLACK is not just a color , its a full time JOB ! What product you put on depends on what your expectations are. Show car trailer queen , daily driver or just a weekend crusier. A multi step paint correction is usually required to achieve a show car worthy finish and hard to maintain if driven much.A weekend crusier may get by with a 1-step polish and or a coating that is easier to maintain.Daily drivers are a different story and a lot depend on the enviorment that they are driven in. Products that fill scratches and swirls are usually reserved for auction and car lots that want the most shine for the least amount of cash. Do they work , yep. Will they last ? No. But they serve their purpose for those that aren't OCD about their rides IMO.
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I don't think you understand what I'm talking about. Perfect paint usually requires paint correction. Paint correction means machine polishing. A full paint correction requires a much longer investment then 3 or 4 hours.
Some people just don't get it. Best not to waste your time.

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Old 08-13-2012, 11:47 PM   #18
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Some people just don't get it. Best not to waste your time.

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