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Old 05-29-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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GETTING SWIRL MARKS ON NEW CAMARO, HOW TO AVOID MAKING MORE??

Im starting to get swirl marks on my new ss. I wash my car by hand using turtle wax products and micro fiber sponges and towels but as hard as i tried they started coming out already. What can i do about this and what other products should i try??
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:21 PM   #2
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Two bucket method, rinse microfiber wash cloth in one, and resoap in the other. Remove as much sediment from the cloth each time as possible, and start from the top of the car down until you get to the front/bottom of door at the factory molding line and rear, then go from front to back, cleaning the wash cloth as often as possible as these are the most sediment collecting parts of the car.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:32 PM   #3
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Are you using 2 buckets with grit guards?
How are you drying your car?


Check out the detailing section...
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:47 PM   #4
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The less you touch your car the better. Blow dry it with an electric blower. Use a foam gun and let it soak in. Use the 2 bucket method. if you do dry it use a microfiber towel and some kind off show room shine.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:18 PM   #5
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Thats a big question... but there are a few key places to start:

1) Your wash routine. As the others pointed out a 2 bucket wash with quality wash/dry media, high sudsing and lubricity soap, and grit guards is key. In this technique is everything - wash top to bottom, use separate wash media for the upper and lower areas of the vehicle, clean and rinse thoroughly between each panel, etc.

2) Your choice of materials. Not all microfiber is created equal... there are many towels and applicators out there sold as microfiber that people assume are perfectly safe to use on their paint, but it isn't. A lot of the stuff sold over the counter is low quality and has things like hot wire cut edges and sewn in tags that could potentially cause swirls.

Theres a TON of information on this forum when it comes to detailing... its a very active section. Also if you're interested in checking out our products we have the instructional videos up that can help you out with your process:

http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-videos.aspx
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:06 PM   #6
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Here is the posting that helped me a great deal, I hope it helps you too:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19526
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #7
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Here's Autopia Car Care "How To" for everyone to read.

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Old 06-02-2012, 08:58 PM   #8
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The swirls show the circular motion of your washing and drying technique.

Forget everything you "know" about how to wash a car.

Always wash and dry all vertical panels up and down, all horizontal panels front to rear. Same for applying and removing wax or other products.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:41 PM   #9
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A foam gun helps. There are many options for a foam gun out there
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:50 AM   #10
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I not only use the two bucket method but also rinse my wash mitt with the hose in between. Doesn't hurt i guess and pretty much swirl free in three years.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:00 AM   #11
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It's not possible to completely avoid swirl marks. Just not gonna happen. You can greatly minimize them by reading some of the guides on here and Autopia forums.

I have a guide I posted on here awhile ago that is a little simpler than some of the others so as not to overwhelm beginners. I'm on my phone so it would be difficult to find it, but if you search washing beginners it should come up

Edit: OK it wasn't that hard actually lol
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #12
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All we are trying to do is help you minimize in getting them. There's always a few that will pop up now and then.
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The swirls show the circular motion of your washing and drying technique.

Forget everything you "know" about how to wash a car.

Always wash and dry all vertical panels up and down, all horizontal panels front to rear. Same for applying and removing wax or other products.
I hear this alot, but it's not true. They aren't really swirls, just micro scratches that appear in circles around a light reflection. It has nothing to do with washing in circles or up and down lines, it's about what tools you are using.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:04 AM   #14
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I hear this alot, but it's not true. They aren't really swirls, just micro scratches that appear in circles around a light reflection. It has nothing to do with washing in circles or up and down lines, it's about what tools you are using.
This statement is not true. The swirls appear in circles because they are placed in circles. Of course the tools and the rest of the process is important.
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Actually, the statement by Fiveg is kinda true...

The "swirls" or micro scratches are going in random directions. but when seen under a light source, they appear to be circular in pattern.

At least that is what I've read
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Actually, the statement by Fiveg is kinda true...

The "swirls" or micro scratches are going in random directions. but when seen under a light source, they appear to be circular in pattern.

At least that is what I've read
Ding ding, we have a winner. You can swirl the car no matter what direction you wash it in.

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Old 06-04-2012, 10:12 PM   #17
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Ding ding, we have a winner. You can swirl the car no matter what direction you wash it in.

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Old 06-04-2012, 10:48 PM   #18
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I've recently modified my technique;
2 buckets clear water with 2 grit guards ea. The buckets are for rinse only for my natural sheepskin. After rinsing the dirt off first, I use a Foamaster to lay down some suds then lay my sheepskin down and saturate it with the foam gun (rather than dunking it in a soapy bucket), wiping one section at at time, then rinse the skin in one bucket then the other. Repeat, starting from the top down and following the usual top to bottom regimen as described by Adams, Junkman et al.

The only other thing I can think of doing is to rinse, foam, rinse, foam again then wipe as described above - the theory being that the first applicaton of soapy suds may help get more of the dirt off than just a simple rinse, before attacking with the sheepskin and suds... is that overkill?

It's the dirt that abrades the paint - getting the most off before wiping with anything will help minimize microscratches and swirls

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I had a ton of swirl marks in my paint. Thanks to Adams polishes, I'm scratch free now. A lot of elbow grease, but the end result is worth it. Best car care products I've found so far.
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Swirl free paint. Duh

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Swirl free paint. Duh

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