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Old 05-30-2012, 06:26 AM   #1
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CAI for the ZL1 yet ?

I think I have seen one so far. Anyone have any input
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:28 AM   #2
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I have seen an ADM prototype. It was about 2 weeks ago at A.R.D. on the owners car. He said he sent the final dimensions back to them so they should be out real soon.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:31 AM   #3
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:48 AM   #4
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it's unfortunate that the CIA requires a tune which voids warranty... really limits mods down to mostly cosmetic.
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Im very ok with with putting a tune in the car
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:51 AM   #6
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LMR has one out...you can see it in their vids.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:27 PM   #7
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There is a section for this type of question

We can thank the folks at CAMARO5.COM for putting a sub section in just for people that want to modify their cars.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=145


Also we have many post on what you can expect with mods -

Over the weekend we spent time with our new RACE INTAKE FOR THE ZL1 on the dyno and on the street,we have complete systems with calibrations ready to go.

Here are the results:

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ADM ZL1 RACE INTAKE DYNO -





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Dyno data on ADM RACE INTAKE with MAF RESCALE ONLY

Dyno data on ADM RACE INTAKE with MAF RESCALE ONLY

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For comparison sakes we are posting the differences of both TEMP,HUMIDITY,A/F from stock dyno to ADM RACE INTAKE DYNO.

NO Timing changes were made.
NO Limiter changes were made.
NO Power enrichments adjustments were made.

The only mod to the calibration was in the maf curve,this change was made so that the A/F would be as close to the same as stock...MAKING THIS A VERY SAFE AND RELIABLE PACKAGE.

NOTE:ADM Performance will also have a race calibration designed for higher octane fuel that can potentially aid in more power and torque thus reducing traction even more .

BASE DYNO-

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Run Name: C:\DynoRuns\CHEVY\2012 CAMARO ZL1\RunFile_001.drf
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Run Notes:
Run Date: 5/5/2012 1:17:56 PM

RunFile_001.drf: 82.96.09 °F 29.56 in-Hg Humidity: 19 % SAE: 1.00 Average Gear Ratio: 46.25

s RPM x1000 hp ft-lbs Air/Fuel
0.27 2.20 158.37 377.70 14.69
0.43 2.30 185.82 424.26 14.38
0.58 2.40 201.70 441.35 13.73
0.72 2.50 214.50 450.59 12.67
0.86 2.60 226.33 457.17 11.99
1.00 2.70 238.26 463.47 11.72
1.14 2.80 249.03 467.10 11.59
1.28 2.90 261.21 473.04 11.55
1.42 3.00 270.41 473.40 11.55
1.56 3.10 280.63 475.46 11.55
1.70 3.20 288.99 474.34 11.53
1.83 3.30 298.67 475.31 11.50
1.97 3.40 310.56 479.71 11.55
2.10 3.50 325.07 487.80 11.60
2.24 3.60 335.03 488.79 11.62
2.37 3.70 344.17 488.53 11.61
2.51 3.80 355.20 490.92 11.57
2.64 3.90 364.93 491.48 11.54
2.78 4.00 375.21 492.63 11.59
2.91 4.10 381.12 488.23 11.61
3.05 4.20 391.13 489.09 11.55
3.18 4.30 401.51 490.42 11.51
3.32 4.40 406.03 484.67 11.53
3.46 4.50 414.13 483.36 11.55
3.59 4.60 423.48 483.49 11.57
3.73 4.70 432.42 483.24 11.59
3.87 4.80 437.32 478.53 11.59
4.02 4.90 444.27 476.20 11.61
4.16 5.00 449.06 471.70 11.64
4.30 5.10 457.18 470.81 11.64
4.45 5.20 459.80 464.43 11.60
4.59 5.30 467.61 463.40 11.58
4.74 5.40 468.55 455.73 11.52
4.89 5.50 472.17 450.89 11.32
5.04 5.60 476.71 447.08 11.15
5.20 5.70 482.91 444.97 11.02
5.35 5.80 482.93 437.33 10.89
5.51 5.90 485.69 432.38 10.74
5.68 6.00 483.96 423.68 10.65
5.84 6.10 481.13 414.26 11.23
6.25 6.20 129.22 109.43 15.15
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MAX: 6.25 6.20 485.69 492.63 15.15
MIN: 0.27 2.20 129.22 109.43 10.65


FINAL DYNO -
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Run Name: C:\DynoRuns\CHEVY\2012 CAMARO ZL1\ZL1 RACE INTAKE FINAL\RunFile_001.drf
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Run Notes:
Run Date: 5/6/2012 9:42:39 AM

RunFile_001.drf: 81.46 °F 29.52 in-Hg Humidity: 23 % SAE: 1.00 Average Gear Ratio: 46.25

s RPM x1000 hp ft-lbs Air/Fuel
0.50 2.10 56.66 141.63 14.79
0.79 2.20 119.15 284.26 14.65
0.96 2.30 167.60 382.49 14.27
1.11 2.40 190.78 417.46 13.81
1.25 2.50 210.72 442.61 13.19
1.39 2.60 229.17 462.87 12.66
1.53 2.70 245.59 477.68 12.32
1.67 2.80 257.84 483.64 12.10
1.80 2.90 267.55 484.56 12.02
1.93 3.00 278.55 487.65 11.96
2.06 3.10 291.80 494.33 11.92
2.19 3.20 300.45 493.14 11.87
2.32 3.30 309.29 492.25 11.84
2.46 3.40 320.15 494.54 11.83
2.59 3.50 329.49 494.42 11.86
2.72 3.60 341.67 498.45 11.85
2.84 3.70 356.11 505.50 11.82
2.97 3.80 365.65 505.36 11.78
3.10 3.90 376.08 506.46 11.76
3.23 4.00 386.78 507.88 11.75
3.36 4.10 395.19 506.20 11.76
3.49 4.20 406.35 508.14 11.76
3.61 4.30 415.40 507.40 11.74
3.75 4.40 421.76 503.44 11.71
3.88 4.50 431.27 503.35 11.67
4.01 4.60 442.02 504.68 11.66
4.14 4.70 445.66 498.04 11.69
4.27 4.80 456.72 499.73 11.73
4.40 4.90 464.22 497.58 11.79
4.54 5.00 471.46 495.23 11.83
4.67 5.10 478.26 492.54 11.83
4.81 5.20 483.62 488.47 11.78
4.95 5.30 486.81 482.40 11.70
5.09 5.40 494.48 480.94 11.55
5.23 5.50 499.59 477.10 11.36
5.37 5.60 499.91 468.86 11.33
5.51 5.70 507.80 467.89 11.40
5.66 5.80 513.73 465.18 11.40
5.81 5.90 516.26 459.57 11.38
5.95 6.00 521.73 456.71 11.35
6.11 6.10 519.80 447.57 11.86
6.49 6.20 137.57 116.51 N/A
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MAX: 6.49 6.20 521.73 508.14 14.79
MIN: 0.50 2.10 56.66 116.51 11.33
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:35 PM   #9
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I need to re dyno my car I am way off that baseline numbers
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:54 PM   #10
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We have a prototype CAI complete for the ZL1, just track tested it today with ONLY a tune and drag radials and ran 11.4 @ 121 mph in the 1/4 mile. It gained 30 rwhp with a tune, 11 rwhp without tune. We also highly reccomend getting it tuned. The jigs are finished and production started today . Pics will be posted when the production products are finished.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:44 PM   #11
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We have a prototype CAI complete for the ZL1, just track tested it today with ONLY a tune and drag radials and ran 11.4 @ 121 mph in the 1/4 mile. It gained 30 rwhp with a tune, 11 rwhp without tune. We also highly reccomend getting it tuned. The jigs are finished and production started today . Pics will be posted when the production products are finished.
Very impressive! Can't wait to see the pics! I've been interested in your CAI.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:58 AM   #12
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I need to re dyno my car I am way off that baseline numbers
What was your baseline?

Auto or manual?
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:24 AM   #13
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Question: Can you add this intake without a tune and get results? I am a service manager for another manufacturer and they are voiding warranties left and right. When a scan is done on the vehicle our scan is sent to the manufacturer as all scan tools must be setup to connect with the manufacturers home base. When scanning it is doing a comparison to the vehicle factory specs and then comparing what is actually in the vehicle. Once sent to Germany they see it and flag it in the computer. The dealer has no control over this and if the scan is not done we do not get paid for our work. I would rather only do bolt ons so if I ever need to go back to factory I can do it myself.
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Question: Can you add this intake without a tune and get results? I am a service manager for another manufacturer and they are voiding warranties left and right. When a scan is done on the vehicle our scan is sent to the manufacturer as all scan tools must be setup to connect with the manufacturers home base. When scanning it is doing a comparison to the vehicle factory specs and then comparing what is actually in the vehicle. Once sent to Germany they see it and flag it in the computer. The dealer has no control over this and if the scan is not done we do not get paid for our work. I would rather only do bolt ons so if I ever need to go back to factory I can do it myself.
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The new era kit was pretty much the same deal, gained 11 rwhp and really rich on the stock tune.
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454 and its a auto
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454 and its a auto
Seems a bit low.
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from what I have read it seem fairly low
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #19
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454 and its a auto
So that'd be around 526 - 535 at the motor? Way too conservative tune from factory? Or dyno is off?
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not sure what to say , I was expecting a higher # for sure
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not sure what to say , I was expecting a higher # for sure
Ya, I would get run it on a different dyno and see if you get similar results. If you do you could take it to a dealer and complain. That's way low, Tune or some other problem.
I know some CTS V guys did something to the boost regulator or boost bypass when they had underwhelming performance. It was losing boost when it shouldn't. Can't find the threads about that right now thought. Might be something to check.
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Ya, I would get run it on a different dyno and see if you get similar results. If you do you could take it to a dealer and complain. That's way low, Tune or some other problem.
I know some CTS V guys did something to the boost regulator or boost bypass when they had underwhelming performance. It was losing boost when it shouldn't. Can't find the threads about that right now thought. Might be something to check.
I am actually going to put it on another dyno next Monday, a hub dyno in the shop we will she how it goes
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