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Old 05-14-2009, 01:23 PM   #26
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:32 PM   #27
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Maybe, just maybe, if we all were a bit more patient.

Understanding of what is going on (i.e. the Pontiac Cars - needing Updates prior to relase) and other issues, we would be more in tune with the process.

The message from my perspective, is that maybe we ought to lay off the crisis buttons and focus on the fact that GM is doing everything they can to get these cars right before they are in our driveways.

With the way it seems that everyone flies off into a tizzy with every perceived crisis, is one reason why they are (at least in my view) trying to get these cars right before they are inour hands.

Whatever value you put on someone's views is your decision. I personally felt motivated to share my view as the process has unfolded for me.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:43 PM   #28
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
Although I don't like all the GM bashing/flaming because the cars have been held up, I also don't appreciate someone who hasn't known their car has been sitting somewhere for the last two months giving a speech about patience. Congratulations on your car.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:43 PM   #29
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Elequontly spoken. I'm in total agreement.

The moral of the story: chill out people.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:50 PM   #30
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:51 PM   #31
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Nicely put... You are wise Sensei -- I take heed!!!
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:53 PM   #33
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Great post!

I will have to wait since I just ordered on the 5th of May and will not be one of the lucky ones to get a pre-ordered car with a low VIN number but will wait patientley for my Camaro RS/SS.
Yup! It gets here when it gets here! Plus I still love my car I have now!

Just gives me and the hubby more time to look at and buy some Factory Accesories and aftermarket options to purchase for it beforehand!
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:57 PM   #34
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Excellent post !!

We are true enthusiasts, just a wee bit overanxious...

Patience is a virtue.
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:02 PM   #35
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What I am ultimately hoping for is that everyone gets their cars. Gets a car that is as perfect as it can be made and that we all enjoy these beuaties to their fullest.

I know that the anxiety is a killer.
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:05 PM   #36
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
I must say stoutfiles, it appears someone has peed in your cornflakes this morning. Now that I said that, there seems to be a fundamental problem here. I keep reading "my car" all over the threads about not having "your car" yet. The car isnt yours until the deal is done. GM is trying its best to get you a MY 2010 car in the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the MY2009. So be patient!!! This is coming from someone who's car was born yesterday and ordered in Nov. of 2008. Be thankful that you have been afforded the opportunity to even order one this early. (stepping off my little soap box)


OP congrats on your new car. I always enjoy reading post like yours.
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Very well said and congrats! Can't wait to see it!
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:43 PM   #38
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
VIN 1049, built last day of the first week of production. Ordered first hour of the first day of Pre order cycle from behind a computer in Iraq. Only paper trail is the e-mail messages. No clue what status is, no clue where it is, no means to find out, still in Iraq. No way to contact my dealer, and they do not contact me very often. Last word was maybe between 16 and 22 May. Fair enough, I wait. I am patient.

So now I say, chill out, be cool, be patient, and most of all....


KEEP THE FAITH!

The OP was dead on and if you research my posts you will find this has been my message throughout, on this and the other forums. Even if mine showed up tomorrow, I would not be able to take delivery, I am still sitting in Iraq. How is that for patience? Based on the ideology of the quoted post, I think I am well founded to support the OP comments and reinforce them and say that "Patience is its own reward!"

I can't wait to take delivery of that car. And when I do it will be a truly great experience. No bad memories, because I did not allow anything to give me any!

Take care, have fun and enjoy your new ride when you get it. Be patient, it will come and it will be worth it. Oh, and did I mention....

KEEP THE FAITH!

Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts on the subject.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:00 PM   #39
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Explain to me why someone who already has their car is telling others to be patient? Wouldn't this speech have more value coming from someone who doesn't have their car yet?

People's current leases are running out, people who ordered in March are getting their cars faster than people who preordered...don't try to tell people to be patient just because you're finished with the whole process.
I don't have my car yrt... so here, I'll say be patient! I don't bug my dealer evryday, but I do stop by and sjoot the breeze with my sales guy and he informs of anything new. I don't expecr a daily situational report or think that the dealer, GM or even fbodfather owes me any explanation.... yes want info has been given has been nice, but no one has to give it. So I'm in total agreement with greenrail about being patient.... or it couls be that we aren't that far off in age!

Anyway, congrats on your car greenrail!
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:11 PM   #40
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I don't have my car yrt... so here, I'll say be patient! I don't bug my dealer evryday, but I do stop by and sjoot the breeze with my sales guy and he informs of anything new. I don't expecr a daily situational report or think that the dealer, GM or even fbodfather owes me any explanation.... yes want info has been given has been nice, but no one has to give it. So I'm in total agreement with greenrail about being patient.... or it couls be that we aren't that far off in age!

Anyway, congrats on your car greenrail!
Thanks. I did much the same. I would stop in to chat. Not bugging my guy here. What was funny, was he was telling me about another customer who ordered one.

Oh my goodness, it would be enough to drive one to drink. Every day, phone calls. But, I guess that is human nature.

It all stems from everyone's excitement about this car.

I don't need a gazilion horsepower, I don't need the fastest car on the street. I actually don't need this car. However, I love this car. I want this car. I am so glad my bride agreed to let me pursue this.

eitehr way, when I fire that baby up for my weekend cruising, I know I will be doing so with what Scott calls a "Permagrin!"
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:34 PM   #41
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Well said. I guess us older guys that were around before video games, cell phones, cable TV, the internet, microwave ovens, etc., etc., don't suffer as much from the "instant gratification" syndrome that some of the younger people experience.
Always makes me think of my favorite comic strip I miss so much, "Calvin and Hobbes." Young Calvin is sanding in front of the microwave oven reading off the package and ranting, "FOUR MINUTES,,,,, Who's got that kind of time!!!"
God I miss Calvin and Hobbes! My favorite comic! And though I may be young, i learned 'hurry up and wait' from my time in the Marines Nothing good comes easy.
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Excellent read.

Thank you, and enjoy your new ride.

Can't wait to order mine.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:16 PM   #43
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I must say stoutfiles, it appears someone has peed in your cornflakes this morning.
I actually don't care when I get my car, but I feel for those that want their car now and were "duped" into preordering because when you ordered has zero effect on when your car comes.

I find it insulting that someone who has their car is telling people to stop whining. It's like telling a kid he can't have a candy bar as you're eating the candy bar in his face. He didn't have to wait long at all compared to what some people will have to wait. Good for him but the people who are waiting can whine as much as they wan't, because the preorder and allocation process is just awful.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:40 PM   #44
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I actually don't care when I get my car, but I feel for those that want their car now and were "duped" into preordering because when you ordered has zero effect on when your car comes.

I find it insulting that someone who has their car is telling people to stop whining. It's like telling a kid he can't have a candy bar as you're eating the candy bar in his face. He didn't have to wait long at all compared to what some people will have to wait. Good for him but the people who are waiting can whine as much as they wan't, because the preorder and allocation process is just awful.
Agreed. Everyone seems to jumping on the "Let's have patience! Whee!" bandwagon and it's just as annoying as us "whiners". If people want to be pissed, then let them as they have every right to.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:20 PM   #45
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You know, all I can say is a brief statement here:

"Sorry you feel that way."

It's your perogative to feel how ever you wish. I do feel somewhat taken aback that you find this all so "insulting!"

Geez, there are kids dying in the streets, there are people out of jobs, there are wars going on, and many other issues in this world for which one could be insulted. On the other hand, there is a heck of a lot for which to be thankful.

There are some very critical things about which to be insulted, I just don't think my comments rank as one of them.

I get insulted by Gangs, who senselessly kill innocent people because they just happen to be on their "turf.' I get insulted by loss of jobs for hard working people.

But, to each his/her own.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:46 PM   #46
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VIN 1049, built last day of the first week of production. Ordered first hour of the first day of Pre order cycle from behind a computer in Iraq. Only paper trail is the e-mail messages. No clue what status is, no clue where it is, no means to find out, still in Iraq. No way to contact my dealer, and they do not contact me very often. Last word was maybe between 16 and 22 May. Fair enough, I wait. I am patient.

So now I say, chill out, be cool, be patient, and most of all....


KEEP THE FAITH!

The OP was dead on and if you research my posts you will find this has been my message throughout, on this and the other forums. Even if mine showed up tomorrow, I would not be able to take delivery, I am still sitting in Iraq. How is that for patience? Based on the ideology of the quoted post, I think I am well founded to support the OP comments and reinforce them and say that "Patience is its own reward!"

I can't wait to take delivery of that car. And when I do it will be a truly great experience. No bad memories, because I did not allow anything to give me any!

Take care, have fun and enjoy your new ride when you get it. Be patient, it will come and it will be worth it. Oh, and did I mention....

KEEP THE FAITH!

Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts on the subject.


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Old 05-14-2009, 08:49 PM   #47
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You know, all I can say is a brief statement here:

"Sorry you feel that way."

It's your perogative to feel how ever you wish. I do feel somewhat taken aback that you find this all so "insulting!"

Geez, there are kids dying in the streets, there are people out of jobs, there are wars going on, and many other issues in this world for which one could be insulted. On the other hand, there is a heck of a lot for which to be thankful.

There are some very critical things about which to be insulted, I just don't think my comments rank as one of them.

I get insulted by Gangs, who senselessly kill innocent people because they just happen to be on their "turf.' I get insulted by loss of jobs for hard working people.

But, to each his/her own.


And Congratulations Greenrail. Enjoy your weekend. Can;t wait to see the photos.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:55 PM   #48
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Congrats

I also could only find one dealer that would sell a MSRP, all other said also they would keep my deposit if for any reason i backed out.
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CAM10RS. I hear ya. I called seven Dealers in our area before I settled on the one from whom I bought my car.

Also - I added some pics of the car as it looked this evening awaiting, prep and stripes.
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That was a great post! Thats also the same car I ordered which made it even better!
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