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Old 05-31-2012, 07:21 PM   #1
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Optimum Vs. Adam's: Car Wash Shootout

I've been using Optimum's car wash for about two months now and wanted to post some thoughts about it. It's the only soap I've used that can stand up against Adam's Car Shampoo, and I've tried A LOT. I'm gonna do sort of a shoot-out between the two here, maybe help people make up their minds.

Value- Optimum
You get 32 oz for $12 whereas 36oz would cost you $20 for Adam's. Gallons are cheaper as well. You can also get away with using less of the Optimum, so that's more uses per bottle as well.

Suds- Optimum by a nose
These soaps behave very, very similarly. Optimum foams just a tad more, but who cares? They both get you tons of suds.

Lubricity- Adam's
Adam's feels a bit slipperier as you glide your pad across the paint. It instills more confidence that you're not grabbing and dragging, causing marring. Optimum is still very good, but it doesn't take this category.

Cleaning Power- Tie
Both of these seem to leave a flawless finish in terms of removing grime from the paint and wheels. They both seem to remove the same amount of dried bug guts (~90%) without any need for hard scrubbing.

Finish- Adam's
I'm not a chemist, so I don't know how to describe this all that well in terms of why it occurs, but Adam's seems to leave a slicker finish than does Optimum. When you're towel drying, the towel seems to not glide as easily after washing with Optimum as it does with Adam's. I'm guessing Adam's has more shine additives in it that are left behind, whereas Optimum is probably more of a pure soap. Keep in mind that the level of protection on the car in terms of sealants was as consistent as I could keep it throughout the comparison months, so I don't think that was causing the differences.

Overall- Tie.
Do you like to smell grapes or cherries when you wash your car? These are both excellent, you can't go wrong with either.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:40 PM   #2
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Great review!
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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CD07, awesome job on the reviews. We can always count on you for straight, no nonsense opinions. Thank you for your help!
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:10 PM   #4
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So basically it comes down to this:

Is slightly more protection during washing and a slickier surface after washing worth the extra $0.56/oz? For the guys like me who use a foam gun, that equates to about $2.50-$3.00 extra per wash. Given that my car is a garage queen and only gets washed about 1-2 month, it is worth it to me. Someone who is washing their car constantly would probably be better off with the Optimum based on cost alone.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:18 PM   #5
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So basically it comes down to this:

Is slightly more protection during washing and a slickier surface after washing worth the extra $0.56/oz? For the guys like me who use a foam gun, that equates to about $2.50-$3.00 extra per wash. Given that my car is a garage queen and only gets washed about 1-2 month, it is worth it to me. Someone who is washing their car constantly would probably be better off with the Optimum based on cost alone.
Well it's hard to say, because the differences are very minor. Suds are also a form of protection, so I'd call it a wash. These two soaps are incredibly similar. I'd be perfectly content using either one with no worries.

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Old 06-01-2012, 01:08 AM   #6
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So basically it comes down to this:

Is slightly more protection during washing and a slickier surface after washing worth the extra $0.56/oz? For the guys like me who use a foam gun, that equates to about $2.50-$3.00 extra per wash. Given that my car is a garage queen and only gets washed about 1-2 month, it is worth it to me. Someone who is washing their car constantly would probably be better off with the Optimum based on cost alone.
I wouldn't normally equate a slick feel to extra protection (it may or may not be the case). Usually (not always) slickness is a factor of silicones that are added to the soap or certain petroleums. I know Optimum Car Soap uses a heavy dose of polymers (the same ingredients in a paint sealant) that help bond to and safely remove particulate.

Likely, with most quality ingredients, you cannot go wrong.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:42 AM   #7
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I guess I should stop using this, huh?

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:04 AM   #8
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First off. Great review der guy. I agree with what you have said. I just find OPT to clean just a bit better.
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I guess I should stop using this, huh?

Nope. Honestly I find that that wash competes with Meg's Gold Class. Shampoos are starting to become so similar that if it's ph neutral, there is little difference between them. There are slight differences in dilution ratios, but you can always add just a little more. Also there can be a slight difference in cleaning/gloss additives, but it just depends on what you like.

I find OPT to clean just a little better than Adam's, and I find Adam's to leave more gloss additives. They are all effective if you keep your car clean on a normal basis and if are reading this forum they all will work just fine. I just use the ones that are more value online. For example: Opt is .5 per gallon. I use 4 gallons per wash so 2 oz per wash. 128/2= 64 washes. $30/64= $0.47 per wash. Adam's is very good value too. I just enjoy using different washes because of the different scents and because I might possibly have enough car wash to wash my car twice a week every week of the year for the next 15-20 years.... Don't ask.

P.S. I hate wash and waxes. They all seem to leave films on the car. The only one that I have found that doesn't is Dodo Juice Sour Power. I am also not saying to go out and get Turtle Wax Zip Wax or Eagle One Quick Dry. These are wash and waxes. Now TW Ice, Meguiar's Gold Class, Meg's NXT, and the new Zymol OTC are decent washes, they just are as good of a value as other soaps online, but I wouldn't hesitate for one minute to pick on of these up if I was in a tight spot.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #9
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First off. Great review der guy. I agree with what you have said. I just find OPT to clean just a bit better.


Nope. Honestly I find that that wash competes with Meg's Gold Class. Shampoos are starting to become so similar that if it's ph neutral, there is little difference between them. There are slight differences in dilution ratios, but you can always add just a little more. Also there can be a slight difference in cleaning/gloss additives, but it just depends on what you like.

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P.S. I hate wash and waxes. They all seem to leave films on the car. The only one that I have found that doesn't is Dodo Juice Sour Power. I am also not saying to go out and get Turtle Wax Zip Wax or Eagle One Quick Dry. These are wash and waxes. Now TW Ice, Meguiar's Gold Class, Meg's NXT, and the new Zymol OTC are decent washes, they just are as good of a value as other soaps online, but I wouldn't hesitate for one minute to pick on of these up if I was in a tight spot.

Thanks for that. I was a bit hesitant to ask; wanted to avoid asking the equivalent of the bolt-on question, "which cai!?"
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:53 AM   #10
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I use the TW Ice car wash liquid, works great and also helps eliminate water spotting, thats what I like most of all....
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:51 AM   #11
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I use to use TW Ice, cleaned very well and left a nice shine. However I found it difficult to apply a detail spray after using it. Not sure, maybe it left something on the car, but I think they have changed it since I've used it.

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I use to use TW Ice, cleaned very well and left a nice shine. However I found it difficult to apply a detail spray after using it. Not sure, maybe it left something on the car, but I think they have changed it since I've used it.

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They recently updated the line, changed the bottles and all lol. I think they did update some of the stuff, but I think the shampoo is the same.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #13
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They recently updated the line, changed the bottles and all lol. I think they did update some of the stuff, but I think the shampoo is the same.

Gotcha, still worked well - I still have a bottle somewhere!
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:01 PM   #14
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I've been using Optimum's car wash for about two months now and wanted to post some thoughts about it. It's the only soap I've used that can stand up against Adam's Car Shampoo, and I've tried A LOT. I'm gonna do sort of a shoot-out between the two here, maybe help people make up their minds.

Value- Optimum
You get 32 oz for $12 whereas 36oz would cost you $20 for Adam's. Gallons are cheaper as well. You can also get away with using less of the Optimum, so that's more uses per bottle as well.

Suds- Optimum by a nose
These soaps behave very, very similarly. Optimum foams just a tad more, but who cares? They both get you tons of suds.

Lubricity- Adam's
Adam's feels a bit slipperier as you glide your pad across the paint. It instills more confidence that you're not grabbing and dragging, causing marring. Optimum is still very good, but it doesn't take this category.

Cleaning Power- Tie
Both of these seem to leave a flawless finish in terms of removing grime from the paint and wheels. They both seem to remove the same amount of dried bug guts (~90%) without any need for hard scrubbing.

Finish- Adam's
I'm not a chemist, so I don't know how to describe this all that well in terms of why it occurs, but Adam's seems to leave a slicker finish than does Optimum. When you're towel drying, the towel seems to not glide as easily after washing with Optimum as it does with Adam's. I'm guessing Adam's has more shine additives in it that are left behind, whereas Optimum is probably more of a pure soap. Keep in mind that the level of protection on the car in terms of sealants was as consistent as I could keep it throughout the comparison months, so I don't think that was causing the differences.

Overall- Tie.
Do you like to smell grapes or cherries when you wash your car? These are both excellent, you can't go wrong with either.
Nice, thanks for the review! I go through Adam's Car Shampoo like crazy . . . I wish the shipping didn't kill me every time.
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ChadG, That is the reason I dont like buying car wax/polish online is because the shipping it outrageous otherwise I would have tried some of these products...
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ChadG, That is the reason I dont like buying car wax/polish online is because the shipping it outrageous otherwise I would have tried some of these products...
Shop around. They're not all as high as Adam's

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I sell ALOT on ebay and the way I figure it since I sell 50-100 items a week on that site and I give free shipping on every item that ships in the USA, I figure they could do the same...Just Sayin....lol
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GPC has flat rate shipping or free shipping over $100

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Nice, thanks for the review! I go through Adam's Car Shampoo like crazy . . . I wish the shipping didn't kill me every time.
You could also try a re-seller of Adams with different shipping rates, GPC I believe is 4.95 flat rate for orders under $100. Just a suggestion since you said you liked their shampoo.
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