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Old 06-06-2012, 07:25 PM   #1
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Black Crud On Wheels?

What is this crap on my wheels? I tried using a Grime Degreaser, Tire Degreeser , Bug Remover. On my Wheels, This Sh** just wont come off! WTH? is this, i never use to have these before, scrub and scrub does nothing. Help? This wash i used a pressure washer, still didnt do anything.









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Old 06-06-2012, 07:27 PM   #2
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Looks like baked on iron into the clear coat. Try a polish on it. Should come right off.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:29 PM   #3
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Looks like baked on iron into the clear coat. Try a polish on it. Should come right off.

What you mean baked on iron? These are brand new wheels, and they are powder coated i believe, not sure what kind of polish works on powder coated wheels, i have one from CG for all kinds of wheels and tried it and it did nothing.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:52 PM   #4
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I bet those wheels are clear coated. And baked on iron is from excessive heat and brake dust. You could try an iron decontaminating wheel cleaner such as sonax or Wolf's Deironizer Gel.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:59 PM   #5
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which one would be the best for that?
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:04 PM   #6
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I'd actually try a clay bar first.

Saw a very similar looking speckling in almost the exact same spot on a set of wheels I recently cleaned up. Cleaners and scrubbing, nothing seemed to make any change.

Hit it with clay and it came off easily.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:06 PM   #7
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I'd actually try a clay bar first.

Saw a very similar looking speckling in almost the exact same spot on a set of wheels I recently cleaned up. Cleaners and scrubbing, nothing seemed to make any change.

Hit it with clay and it came off easily.
I just figured if Polish didn't bring it off that clay wouldn't.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:06 PM   #8
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What you mean baked on iron? These are brand new wheels, and they are powder coated i believe, not sure what kind of polish works on powder coated wheels, i have one from CG for all kinds of wheels and tried it and it did nothing.
Try using a paint polish too. A metal polish won't do much for CC wheels.
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:53 AM   #9
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That looks like iron residue from high-temperature braking. This is actually a common occurrence on cars that are tracked/driving aggressively.

You basically have two options (in terms of chemical cleaners).

One, you can use a strong wheel acid. This is probably the fastest choice in removing baked on break dust, but acids can damage the clear coat of your wheels.

The second option, and my preferred method, would be to use a iron decontamination spray.

CarPro makes some EXCELLENT (ie extremely high-rated) iron decontamination sprays that are pH neutral. Either will make quick, safe work of those deposits (assuming they are in fact baked on iron). Check out these threads...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=carpro

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Old 06-07-2012, 07:32 AM   #10
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what would the manufacturer of the wheel say about this issue vs him buying products to clean/fix it??
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:46 AM   #11
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I bought my wheels from Alex @ Speeddepot, didnt get them directly from TSW, as far as aggression goes, this car is just DD to work and home and around, i dont drive my v6 like i am at a track.
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I bought my wheels from Alex @ Speeddepot, didnt get them directly from TSW, as far as aggression goes, this car is just DD to work and home and around, i dont drive my v6 like i am at a track.
Then start driving it!!!

That is the most common cause of baked on iron. Did the wheels come like this or has this occurred since ownership?
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:34 AM   #13
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Then start driving it!!!

That is the most common cause of baked on iron. Did the wheels come like this or has this occurred since ownership?
had wheels for maybe a month or little over that. And Daily Drove Since, wheels came with couple minor tiny scratches but thats about it, and some dust.
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Then start driving it!!!

That is the most common cause of baked on iron. Did the wheels come like this or has this occurred since ownership?

So i will try 3 options, Clay, Polish, if all fails i wanna try that baked iron remover, any good prices going for those yet?
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Then start driving it!!!

That is the most common cause of baked on iron. Did the wheels come like this or has this occurred since ownership?
iron bakes on because of what?
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iron bakes on because of what?
i question this also
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:58 PM   #17
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Sorry to hear this happening to you, looks like everyone mention what I would say in trying to remove the iron/brake contaminated.

Clay Bar

Polish/compound

Iron X Paste

Try the Clay Bar it should work unless it's bake in very badly. Hope you can get it off and if you do get them off then try and get them ready for some protection like Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 Permanent Paint Coating, so you can avoid this nasty problem.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:28 PM   #18
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Thanks. Will try all 3 of the ways starting with what I got.
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iron bakes on because of what?
I'm not a scientist (my degree is in business) but I am lucky to work with or know a bunch of them.

My understanding is that as a metal wheel turns around a metal core it creates a week magnetic charge. Brake dust, which is usually metal shavings, sticks to the wheel because of this (initially).

When you brakes are applied, the temperature increase in the metal shavings (brake dust) is fairly high, even under light braking. In most cases it cools instantly. However some particles are still fairly warm/hot when they are first pulled on to the wheel.

Any aggressive driving (which is why I referenced tracking the car or aggressive driving) will dramatically increase the heat of the particles sticking to the wheel as wheel as the heat of the wheel through conduction and radiation. This speeds the oxidation of the iron particles, which increases how they adhere to the wheel and to themselves. This would be 'baked on' brake dust.

Using a quality wheel sealant, designed to withstand the temperature load of the breaking system can go a LONG way towards preventing this build up.

A favorite of mine is Detailer's Wheel Glaze.
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So i will try 3 options, Clay, Polish, if all fails i wanna try that baked iron remover, any good prices going for those yet?
When polishing, consider applying the polish with a terry cloth towel, as the actual loop of the towel will add some needed polishing power!

They are already a great price (for what they do!).
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i tried CG Polish i have for all purpose rim one, and it did nothing =/
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Have you try claying it?
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Have you try claying it?
Thats what i will try today, since its friday.
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Let us know how it turn out.
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Let us know how it turn out.
Will Do, Have to postpone for tommorow, massive thunderstorm outside right now.
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