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Old 06-08-2012, 12:39 PM   #1
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1900 vs 2300 cc superchargers

I am a little uninformed about the differences in the superchargers on the ZL! and ZR1. What is the real difference between the two? Some people say that the ZL1 would have been better with the 2300cc, but what will that give you? More boost? More volume? Does the 1900cc starve at wide open throttle?
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:57 PM   #2
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More volume, less heat generated for the same amount of boost. And higher boost potential.
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It's not cc it's liters
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:32 PM   #4
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It's not cc it's liters
I had seen it posted both ways, but thanks for the information.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:52 PM   #5
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2.3L=2300 cc
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:46 PM   #6
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2.3L=2300 cc
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:50 PM   #7
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Can the lsa handle the 2300 without upgrading the internals?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:24 PM   #8
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Can the lsa handle the 2300 without upgrading the internals?
If you don't turn the boost way up. It will make the same boost with less heat increase. So you could run a little bit more boost than with the 1900.

But I would forge everything if I spent the money for this upgrade and turn up the boost even more.
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Here is a great comparison that we did

We built a ZR1 and then a ZL1 with same mods all the way down to the camshaft.

You be the judge:

Before and After Mods to a 2012 ZR1




Befor and After Mods to a 2012 ZL1

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We built a ZR1 and then a ZL1 with same mods all the way down to the camshaft.

You be the judge:

Before and After Mods to a 2012 ZR1




Befor and After Mods to a 2012 ZL1

So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:39 PM   #11
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So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
The ZR1 has titanium rods,Intake valves,Better Oiling,etc etc.....
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:59 PM   #12
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The ZR1 has titanium rods,Intake valves,Better Oiling,etc etc.....
My question is, how on earth did you guys get the ZL-1 to have numbers just as good as the ZR-1? That's crazy because the ZL-1 is slightly gimped compaired to the ZR-1.

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Old 06-10-2012, 11:07 PM   #13
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So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
So, with the same mods on both the ZL1 yields higher gains??? Whats the reason for that? Is the 1900 running closer to it's sweet spot or what?


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Old 06-11-2012, 06:58 AM   #14
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My question is, how on earth did you guys get the ZL-1 to have numbers just as good as the ZR-1? That's crazy because the ZL-1 is slightly gimped compaired to the ZR-1.

Kudo's to you guys. Great builds.

Just shows how good a 1900 can be.
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