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Old 06-08-2012, 12:39 PM   #1
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1900 vs 2300 cc superchargers

I am a little uninformed about the differences in the superchargers on the ZL! and ZR1. What is the real difference between the two? Some people say that the ZL1 would have been better with the 2300cc, but what will that give you? More boost? More volume? Does the 1900cc starve at wide open throttle?
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:57 PM   #2
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More volume, less heat generated for the same amount of boost. And higher boost potential.
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It's not cc it's liters
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:32 PM   #4
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It's not cc it's liters
I had seen it posted both ways, but thanks for the information.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:52 PM   #5
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2.3L=2300 cc
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:46 PM   #6
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2.3L=2300 cc
True!
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:50 PM   #7
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Can the lsa handle the 2300 without upgrading the internals?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:24 PM   #8
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Can the lsa handle the 2300 without upgrading the internals?
If you don't turn the boost way up. It will make the same boost with less heat increase. So you could run a little bit more boost than with the 1900.

But I would forge everything if I spent the money for this upgrade and turn up the boost even more.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:46 PM   #9
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Here is a great comparison that we did

We built a ZR1 and then a ZL1 with same mods all the way down to the camshaft.

You be the judge:

Before and After Mods to a 2012 ZR1




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Old 06-10-2012, 10:15 PM   #10
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We built a ZR1 and then a ZL1 with same mods all the way down to the camshaft.

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Before and After Mods to a 2012 ZR1




Befor and After Mods to a 2012 ZL1

So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:39 PM   #11
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So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
The ZR1 has titanium rods,Intake valves,Better Oiling,etc etc.....
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:59 PM   #12
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The ZR1 has titanium rods,Intake valves,Better Oiling,etc etc.....
My question is, how on earth did you guys get the ZL-1 to have numbers just as good as the ZR-1? That's crazy because the ZL-1 is slightly gimped compaired to the ZR-1.

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Old 06-10-2012, 11:07 PM   #13
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So the only diifference was the supercharger? Wow. Thats a huge difference.
So, with the same mods on both the ZL1 yields higher gains??? Whats the reason for that? Is the 1900 running closer to it's sweet spot or what?


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Old 06-11-2012, 06:58 AM   #14
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My question is, how on earth did you guys get the ZL-1 to have numbers just as good as the ZR-1? That's crazy because the ZL-1 is slightly gimped compaired to the ZR-1.

Kudo's to you guys. Great builds.

Just shows how good a 1900 can be.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:22 AM   #15
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The ZL1 or LSA 1900 works for me in my 2010 SS. Built by ADM. The best part is the engineering done on the blower and engine accessories belt drive system.
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We built a ZR1 and then a ZL1 with same mods all the way down to the camshaft.

You be the judge:

Before and After Mods to a 2012 ZR1




Befor and After Mods to a 2012 ZL1

If memory serves, the ZL1 was on race gas here. Is it the same for the Zr1? Also, to me, same mods would mean same pullies, which would equal more boost for the ZR1 since it is a bigger blower. How much oost was each car running?

It just doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison here.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:19 PM   #17
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If memory serves, the ZL1 was on race gas here. Is it the same for the Zr1? Also, to me, same mods would mean same pullies, which would equal more boost for the ZR1 since it is a bigger blower. How much oost was each car running?

It just doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison here.
When I say same mods,I suppose it should say similar mods....Pulleys,Cam,Heads,Headers,Actually we had the Lingenfelter SNOUT on the ZR1 and ported snout on the ZL1.

My point is very simple - The 1900 is a fantastic supercharger!!!!!!

The ZR1 MADE MORE BOOST THAN THE ZL1.
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When I say same mods,I suppose it should say similar mods....Pulleys,Cam,Heads,Headers,Actually we had the Lingenfelter SNOUT on the ZR1 and ported snout on the ZL1.

My point is very simple - The 1900 is a fantastic supercharger!!!!!!

The ZR1 MADE MORE BOOST THAN THE ZL1.
I take it the ZR1 was on pump gas then. Otherwise it would have surely made mroe power.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:38 AM   #19
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I take it the ZR1 was on pump gas then. Otherwise it would have surely made mroe power.
It too was on race gas.
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It too was on race gas.
So a very similar motor, with the same mods, same cam, a bigger blower and more boost makes LESS power on the same fuel?

That does not add up. Not even a little bit.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:26 PM   #21
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40 ft/lbs of torque is not less.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:43 PM   #22
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40 ft/lbs of torque is not less.
Exactly

And btw it is splitting hairs
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:06 AM   #23
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Soda bottles are on the metric system, not American engines and parts.
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The zr1 blower also has a smaller intercooler brick in the supercharger vs the zl1 blower. So you are worse off with heat soak... with the zr1 blower
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The ZR1 MADE MORE BOOST THAN THE ZL1.
How much more? Can you say why more boost was equal power? Both manuals I assume.

Good stuff.

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Soda bottles are on the metric system, not American engines and parts.
Ya but it's fun to tell ricers that my supercharger has more volume that their engine.

I always enjoyed telling them that I bought a bottle of Dr. Pepper with more volume than their engines too.
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