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Old 05-16-2009, 09:57 AM   #26
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thanks for a level head.. . . and some of these guys want a SC Z28. .. yeah right. Who is going to fork over a extra 10-15k when there was complaining about the price of the 2ss
You would be suprised at the number of orders already in for this package.
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Old 05-16-2009, 10:20 AM   #27
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...how fast can you afford.

Great numbers, now just imagine if you built the engine and upped the boost... with cams.. and...
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Old 05-16-2009, 10:27 AM   #28
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:21 AM   #29
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I am more interested in how much the STOCK block can take. Sure, you can get well over 500 rwhp out of a mustang gt as well, but it sure hell is ill advise unless you build the bottom end up some..rods ect....I am sure that the maro engine, that was not built for F/I will have the same limitations....and we have not even gotten to the drivetrain yet.

All in all though good numbers. Expensive as all out, but good numbers. Heh you could buy a GT500 2010 for what it will cost to get you to those numbers.

Hmm on second thought...what I have seen SS's going for here in S. Fla after the mark ups..a GT500 is cheaper !
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:22 AM   #30
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Yeah, you keep believing that.

I don't know how they teach math where you come from, but an unpolished blower alone is going to cost you, according to their site, $6800. (If you want the polished one in the video, fork over $7500). On top of that, this car has:

Corsa Exhuast System: $1450
CAI System: $395
Tune: $75?

If you just add up the unpolished blower, CAI and exhaust, your looking at $8600, not counting any labor or install costs.

Still, that's not a bad price for the power it makes.

You would think with an extra $8500 you would make more power?
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:25 AM   #31
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Why are my pants around my ankles when I watch this?
Wow you are excited did you order the blower yet?
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:55 AM   #32
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What would you need to get to stop the engine from rocking like that?
like i said stiffer bushings get rid of those rubber one's and get some polyurethane
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:00 PM   #33
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who ever has the most money goes the fastest.and i am curious to see how this 6 bolt main holds up to the tasks at hand.my pants are down to. that motor looks like the one in that oil commercial.i luv it ready to jump outta there
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:26 PM   #34
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Interesting thing here is that realistically a Z28 or some other top of the line future camaro would need to be priced in 45-50k bracket - and right now we can spec out a well equipped SS for around 37k compared to about 44k for a challenger and 46k for a GT500.

Good thing is that the SS already has great brakes and handling as standard - so less to worry about there for most "mortals" who wont be doing serious racing and just want more power at their right foot - so adding a supercharger for 8-9k gives you a very nicely specced car while not making you spend much more than you would on the competition

All gets down to what you want to spend your $ on.
Amazing how many folks are dropping as much as it costs for a supercharger on ground effects and 21' wheels - which are mainly for appearance.


I'm looking at this as an opportunity to build what I expected a Z28 to be in installments :-)


I have to say that although it does nothing for me personally in terms of looks (it somehow looks depressed) - if you can get it at the actual list price the Mustang GT500 is a lot of value for money
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:26 PM   #35
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Just for fun lets compare:

http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/pricelist.htm

Kenne Bell C5 inter-cooled kit
(Includes CAI, Boost-A-Pump, 38lb injectors, Flash Tuner, 76-93MM inlet)
$6999 Complete Inter-cooled kit ($800 for the vette hood can be used on labor)
$1,114.95 Borla Catback and X-pipe #140280
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$8113.95 installed and would make more power (inter-cooled), add $650 for the polished kit.

Do the work yourself (easy) and you can have it a lot cheaper.

Whipple could probably offer a kit for even less.

I foresee complete 5k-6k kits in the near future.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:29 PM   #36
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rwhp

forgive me for the dumb question...but those who dont ask dont learn...so whats the difference between rwhp and hp...how is it that you guys are able to calculate these numbers??
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #37
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damn, I'll get a 1ss add the sc and a cheaper cai and exhuast system and be in a screaming SS for challenger SRT8 money.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:50 PM   #38
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forgive me for the dumb question...but those who dont ask dont learn...so whats the difference between rwhp and hp...how is it that you guys are able to calculate these numbers??
Hp is what the engine makes Rwhp is what actually hits the ground
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The one big question, IS IT A FORGED MOTOR? I don't see the power going up or lasting with cast pistons.
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:31 PM   #40
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:03 PM   #41
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What would you need to get to stop the engine from rocking like that?
Polyurethane mounts.


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Yeah, you keep believing that.

I don't know how they teach math where you come from, but an unpolished blower alone is going to cost you, according to their site, $6800. (If you want the polished one in the video, fork over $7500). On top of that, this car has:

Corsa Exhuast System: $1450
CAI System: $395
Tune: $75?

If you just add up the unpolished blower, CAI and exhaust, your looking at $8600, not counting any labor or install costs.

Still, that's not a bad price for the power it makes.
dont forget the name tag on the kit as well. big name = bigger money for the same stuff.

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The one big question, IS IT A FORGED MOTOR? I don't see the power going up or lasting with cast pistons.
its not forged, and doesnt need to be. its not pushing stupid crazy, OMGWTFBBQ power. the stock block can handle it.
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:52 PM   #42
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...its not forged, and doesnt need to be. its not pushing stupid crazy, OMGWTFBBQ power. the stock block can handle it.
yep
but can your mom handle it?
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:05 PM   #43
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that belt is doing some dancing.

id like to see twin turbo set up
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:07 PM   #44
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The one big question, IS IT A FORGED MOTOR? I don't see the power going up or lasting with cast pistons.
Please use the Search capability. This topic has been answered ad nauseum. There is a ton of usable info for you on this site. Thanks.

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Personally drove the car around the facility today and man oh man does it feel different then the first time I took it out for the weekend. This is how the car should have came from the factory!!!

Comparing Apples to apples... A fully loaded 2SS with this supercharger still puts you around the base price of a Dodge Challenger and you are up 150 hp!!! Great buy!

We will have the units arriving within the next couple of days and are taking orders at this time. Call me directly and I can assist you with any of your questions.

Speak to you soon.
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Please use the Search capability. This topic has been answered ad nauseum. There is a ton of usable info for you on this site. Thanks.

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I believe he was being sarcastic.
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So which is it? I have seen on this forum in another thread (forgot which one) the stock RWHP of the LS3 listed as ~ 348. Here they say 376HP or so. That's a big difference. The other thread said 150 + HP increase resulted in about 480 RWHP @ 6 psi. Who am I to believe?
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Someone posted the reason that different stock camaro's will show different HP and torque specs. Different dynos i'm sure is one. BUt even if u tested camaro's on the same dyno you would still see a difference in HP and torque ratings. But i can't remember why it was said you would see different ratings.
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