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Old 05-19-2009, 01:03 PM   #101
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The accepted values should be around 12% loss for the manual and around 15% loss for an auto on a dynojet .. these are what are the norm for most newer cars even with IRS (ex 03/04 cobras).

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Old 05-19-2009, 01:38 PM   #102
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The accepted values should be around 12% loss for the manual and around 15% loss for an auto on a dynojet .. these are what are the norm for most newer cars even with IRS (ex 03/04 cobras).

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Accepted Values are always best to do a base line on the car on your dyno of choice before upgrading. We offer this service to our customers. On avg we are seeing between a 15%-18% on our DynoJet Dyno with the new camaros.

DynoJet is an inertia dyno and SHOULD read higher then a Mustang/Superflow/Dyno Dynamics (aka Load Based Dynos). However, if the load based dyno you are on is being overriden by the operator, it can produce a higher number then a dyno jet. Most Dyno numbers you see out there are on a DYNOJET. Load Based dynos are GREAT for tuning.

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Old 05-19-2009, 01:41 PM   #103
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Wow .. that really surprises me that there are that much loss in the new camaro drivetrain ... it is disappointing for sure. I would have thought they could do better than the 03/04 cobras with the T56 and IRS but I guess not ..

So we should really only expect 350 to 360 at the wheels for a dynojet ... That just sounds low .. I would expect the one I saw at just over 370 to be the norm which would put it right around the 12% loss ..

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Old 05-19-2009, 01:46 PM   #104
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Wow .. that really surprises me that there are that much loss in the new camaro drivetrain ... it is disappointing for sure. I would have thought they could do better than the 03/04 cobras with the T56 and IRS but I guess not ..

So we should really only expect 350 to 360 at the wheels for a dynojet ... That just sounds low .. I would expect the one I saw at just over 370 to be the norm which would put it right around the 12% loss ..

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THis is why I mention, dont assume off other cars... Use your own car and the dyno you perfer and base those calculations at that time. Dynos should be used as a tool for tuning and displaying increases in power over a base...

Obviously with a comparable car, the Dodge Challenger, we were seeing cars dyno from 345hp to 370hp (which is 18% to 12% DTL). Every car is different and you cannot assume your car has a loss of 12% and it may be 18%! Right now since there has not been alot of Camaros on Dynos, most people are assuming a 15%. Again this is on a Dynojet... and remember... motors arent broken in yet so dont blame the drivetrain yet!
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:52 PM   #105
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THis is why I mention, dont assume off other cars... Use your own car and the dyno you perfer and base those calculations at that time. Dynos should be used as a tool for tuning and displaying increases in power over a base...

Obviously with a comparable car, the Dodge Challenger, we were seeing cars dyno from 345hp to 370hp (which is 18% to 12% DTL). Every car is different and you cannot assume your car has a loss of 12% and it may be 18%! Right now since there has not been alot of Camaros on Dynos, most people are assuming a 15%. Again this is on a Dynojet... and remember... motors arent broken in yet so dont blame the drivetrain yet!


Thanks for the info .. That is normally what I use them for.... can't wait to get the car and get a baseline and then go from there ... either way ... the LS3 has much potential and it is very exciting ..

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Old 05-19-2009, 03:25 PM   #106
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Thanks for the info' James. It looks like we just need some more break-in miles to see what's going to be a good average baseline. Still, 350+ RWHP is nothing to sneeze at. I think it's easy to forget that's going to be a lot of power for many people.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:47 PM   #107
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The Hennessey Camro looks awesome......I would have thought a little faster with the charger but still a good package.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:52 PM   #108
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can someone please show me where the corsa exhaust is in the drag video, cause i see factory mufflers in the video.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:38 PM   #109
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Was the 0-60 time 3.6? Or am i seeing things
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:44 PM   #110
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Also for those who were asking about the Weight, We scaled the car this morning with a full tank of gas, 3,965lbs!
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Wow that's pretty heavy! :O
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:53 PM   #112
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guys dont get to ramped up over this car. I called a whaile back to get a quote on ordering one and I was quoted over $100k for the order.
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Also for those who were asking about the Weight, We scaled the car this morning with a full tank of gas, 3,965lbs!
How much boost are you guys feeling is safe on stock short block without Meth? I see this car made 530rwhp @ 6psi...can we do 8/9 psi on this motor with a better fuel system?
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Also for those who were asking about the Weight, We scaled the car this morning with a full tank of gas, 3,965lbs!
Is that including the driver? I'm going to assume it is not.
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How much boost are you guys feeling is safe on stock short block without Meth? I see this car made 530rwhp @ 6psi...can we do 8/9 psi on this motor with a better fuel system?
For the warranty, we will be keeping the kits at 6psi.

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Is that including the driver? I'm going to assume it is not.

Without the driver, just the vehicle and fuel.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:47 PM   #116
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$7000 Cheep Cheep Cheep HP

I hate to hear you guys complaining on $7000 for all that extra HP. I am in Canada and this is what it cost me.
$68,000 for 2ssRs, with ground effects, hockey sticks, super charger, intake, exhaust, and wheels. I only wish I could buy as cheap as in the US!
But F$%$K is it going to be nice and fast eh!!!
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:22 AM   #117
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I hate to hear you guys complaining on $7000 for all that extra HP. I am in Canada and this is what it cost me.
$68,000 for 2ssRs, with ground effects, hockey sticks, super charger, intake, exhaust, and wheels. I only wish I could buy as cheap as in the US!
But F$%$K is it going to be nice and fast eh!!!
for that much, why didn't you just go with a Z06?
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:25 AM   #118
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for that much, why didn't you just go with a Z06?
forreal!!! i mean the maro is nice but no comparison there not even with the tvs 2300 and 6 ilbs
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for that much, why didn't you just go with a Z06?
I know its been about a month and a half since you asked but a Z06 costs $95 000 in Canada
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