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Old 05-15-2009, 09:47 PM   #1
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Lightweight Camaro?

Any body got any good ideas for losing some Camaro weight? Know of any rear seat delete kits yet? Maybe lighter body panels?
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:20 PM   #2
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unbolt everything that isnt needed to make the car faster. or buy a Body in White
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:44 PM   #3
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unbolt everything that isnt needed to make the car faster. or buy a Body in White
some suggestions as to what to unbolt might be helpful ...
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:26 PM   #4
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:49 PM   #5
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Old 05-16-2009, 04:08 PM   #6
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some suggestions as to what to unbolt might be helpful ...
fine...

stuff you can pull off for free.

ABS
AC compressor
AC condenser
AC fan motor
Airbags and brackets
Air filter
stereo system
seats
Antenna
Center console
Coating, under carpet
Crossmember brace
Cruise control
Dash
Ashtray & lighter
Blinker switch
extra bolts
Brake pedal pad
Headlights
Headliner
Head unit
Head unit/AC console trim piece
Heat sheilding
Heater core
Hood shock
Horn
Bumper front and rear reinforcement and brackets
Carpet & Sound deadening
Emblems
Fans
Fan shroud
Floormats
Foglights and brackets
Gas, Extra
Glovebox
Grill insert
Hatch shocks
Inner fenderwells, plastic
Liscense plate brackets
Liscense plate(s)
Misc. junk in the car like keys, garage remote, change, owner's manual, etc.
Owner's manual
Panels, under steering wheel
Panhard rod brace, upper
Parking brake
Power brake booster
Parking brake handle
Power seat motor
Power steering pump, pulley, idler pulley
Power window motors
Rear view mirror
Seatbelts (rears and passenger's)
Sheetmetal, extra double walled
Shifter knob
Spare tire and jack
Speaker panels, hatch
Speaker panels, rear passenger's
Speakers
Spoiler
Sun visors
Swaybar and brackets, front
Taillight(s)
Under car tow points
Washer fluid pump
Windshield washer fluid
Windshield wiper reservoir
Wiper arms
Wiper motor
Excess wiring
Hood insulation
spare tire/air pump/tire goo
hood insulation
engine cover
rear light trim
weather stripping



stuff you can buy to replace req components of the car


lightweight intake/filter
Chromoly LCAs
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Chromoly A-arms
Chromoly K-member
Draglite wheels
Drag slicks or street slicks
Drilled axles
Dry cell battery
Electric water pump
Fiberglass door skins
Fiberglass hood
Fuel cell
Headers
Lexan glass
Lightweight clothing
Lightweight brakes
Lightweight flywheel
Lightweight springs and shocks
Lightweight steering wheel
Manual rack and pinion steering
Powerglide, TH350, or M4 transmission
Racing seat
Shortbelt mod
Skinny front tires
Spool
TQ converter
Underdrive pulleys
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:09 AM   #7
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lol you asked for it
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:23 AM   #8
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how and when do i get the body in white?
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:41 AM   #9
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fine...

stuff you can pull off for free.

ABS
AC compressor
AC condenser
AC fan motor
Airbags and brackets
Air filter
stereo system
seats
Antenna
Center console
Coating, under carpet
Crossmember brace
Cruise control
Dash
Ashtray & lighter
Blinker switch
extra bolts
Brake pedal pad
Headlights
Headliner
Head unit
Head unit/AC console trim piece
Heat sheilding
Heater core
Hood shock
Horn
Bumper front and rear reinforcement and brackets
Carpet & Sound deadening
Emblems
Fans
Fan shroud
Floormats
Foglights and brackets
Gas, Extra
Glovebox
Grill insert
Hatch shocks
Inner fenderwells, plastic
Liscense plate brackets
Liscense plate(s)
Misc. junk in the car like keys, garage remote, change, owner's manual, etc.
Owner's manual
Panels, under steering wheel
Panhard rod brace, upper
Parking brake
Power brake booster
Parking brake handle
Power seat motor
Power steering pump, pulley, idler pulley
Power window motors
Rear view mirror
Seatbelts (rears and passenger's)
Sheetmetal, extra double walled
Shifter knob
Spare tire and jack
Speaker panels, hatch
Speaker panels, rear passenger's
Speakers
Spoiler
Sun visors
Swaybar and brackets, front
Taillight(s)
Under car tow points
Washer fluid pump
Windshield washer fluid
Windshield wiper reservoir
Wiper arms
Wiper motor
Excess wiring
Hood insulation
spare tire/air pump/tire goo
hood insulation
engine cover
rear light trim
weather stripping



stuff you can buy to replace req components of the car


lightweight intake/filter
Chromoly LCAs
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Chromoly A-arms
Chromoly K-member
Draglite wheels
Drag slicks or street slicks
Drilled axles
Dry cell battery
Electric water pump
Fiberglass door skins
Fiberglass hood
Fuel cell
Headers
Lexan glass
Lightweight clothing
Lightweight brakes
Lightweight flywheel
Lightweight springs and shocks
Lightweight steering wheel
Manual rack and pinion steering
Powerglide, TH350, or M4 transmission
Racing seat
Shortbelt mod
Skinny front tires
Spool
TQ converter
Underdrive pulleys
Get rid of all that and you end up with



or this

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Old 05-18-2009, 05:25 AM   #10
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sorry, but what exactly does this mean?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:02 AM   #11
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:15 AM   #12
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Friend of mine races a 68 (9:24 at 148 mph) he took all of his door panels off seats out and drilled holes in every place he could fine. Put the panels back on and presto no one knows. It sounds silly but he turns preet good times. When you get going that fast every oz. counts
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:44 AM   #13
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sorry, but what exactly does this mean?
the BIW.... Body in White is just that. a white Camaro body/shell. The bodies do not have vehicle identification numbers, so they may be used only as racing vehicles that will never be licensed for street driving.

The basic package lists for $7,000 and includes an assembled body structure, including the front fenders, hood, roof, doors, rear quarters and trunk lid. The structure also includes the complete floorpans and chassis rails.

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Old 05-18-2009, 07:30 PM   #14
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what if later on down the road buy a 2010 camaro dash from a junk yard and swap it, then it will have a VIN Seriously tho, there is NO way you can get it street legal???

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the BIW.... Body in White is just that. a white Camaro body/shell. The bodies do not have vehicle identification numbers, so they may be used only as racing vehicles that will never be licensed for street driving.

The basic package lists for $7,000 and includes an assembled body structure, including the front fenders, hood, roof, doors, rear quarters and trunk lid. The structure also includes the complete floorpans and chassis rails.

Contact:
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:25 PM   #15
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what if later on down the road buy a 2010 camaro dash from a junk yard and swap it, then it will have a VIN Seriously tho, there is NO way you can get it street legal???
The only way I can think of would be to get it listed as a kit car, but I have no clue how that works either.
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:23 PM   #16
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what if later on down the road buy a 2010 camaro dash from a junk yard and swap it, then it will have a VIN Seriously tho, there is NO way you can get it street legal???
No. A production chassis (as the case w/ the Camaro) cannot be re-VIN'd or badged if they did not leave the factory that way. Kit car registration wouldn't work, as it's a production chassis. Big time no-no to try it too.

VIN swap would of course be a federal offense. There is no legal way to take a bare chassis and turn it into a road car. If you want that -- buy a built car, strip it out for your racing purposes.
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No. A production chassis (as the case w/ the Camaro) cannot be re-VIN'd or badged if they did not leave the factory that way. Kit car registration wouldn't work, as it's a production chassis. Big time no-no to try it too.

VIN swap would of course be a federal offense. There is no legal way to take a bare chassis and turn it into a road car. If you want that -- buy a built car, strip it out for your racing purposes.
but.... if you were to buy a wrecked 2010 camaro... before it was titled as "scrap or junk"

then you could swap the vin... just dont tell anyone
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but.... if you were to buy a wrecked 2010 camaro... before it was titled as "scrap or junk"

then you could swap the vin... just dont tell anyone

maybe just maybe...
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If you're serious enough to want to build-up a BIW, you're probably gonna have a trailer car anyways. No sound deadening makes em sound like you're inside a boom box. Gets old fast unless you're at speed

If you're gonna add sound damping, carpet etc. You might as well buy a production car and pick from spikes list.
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but.... if you were to buy a wrecked 2010 camaro... before it was titled as "scrap or junk"

then you could swap the vin... just dont tell anyone
And hope the state or feds ever find out... lest ye' like orange jumpsuits.
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A salvage titled car would be the way to go. It would never have the value of a clean title car and is known to have had major replacement of parts to become road worthy. Usually needing to be inspected by the State you are in before they give the ok for it to go back on the raod. Seeing as you plan to strip it down to nothing anyway for racing, a salvage title shouldn't be a problem as far as dropping the cars value, as a stripped out racecar has little value to the general public. You would be better off selling it the way you put it together. One piece at a time. I think the biggest issue is fruad & liability. If you do this for yourself to have fun and never try to sell it as a true 2010 SS, or try to sue GM for something, I would think you would be ok.

It makes me wonder how people are getting the reman 69 chassis' that are now available for sale titled?
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