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Old 06-12-2012, 07:25 AM   #26
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What was 2 for 2?

I saw a power/speed advantage for Team Blue, and handling/drivability for Team Gold/Bowtie.
1 (skidpad) + 1 (slalom) = 2
1 (1/4) + 1 (braking) = 2

2 for 2.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:34 AM   #27
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1 (skidpad) + 1 (slalom) = 2
1 (1/4) + 1 (braking) = 2

2 for 2.
Actually, it's 2 to 2


As far as the test goes,I don't think the video gave us anything we didn't already know. The GT500 is a much faster car in a straight line & a very decent handling car.

And the ZL1 is a much better handling car & very respectable in a straight line.

As others have stated in this thead,I too wish they would actually put them on a track to see if the ZL1's superior cornering can overcome the brute force that is the GT500.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:37 AM   #28
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GT500 - 11.9 @ 123 mph
ZL1 - 12.4 @ 116 mph

"the GT500 is much quicker"
As far as handling "it's no contest" - ZL1 is the much better handling car.
I don't get it... How is my SS running almost the same MPH and almost the exact 1/4 time with just headers, tune, and CAI.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:38 AM   #29
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Was that ZL1 an auto?
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:56 AM   #30
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2012 ZL1 vs 2013 Shelby GT500 Review on insideline.com

Reposted from Apex's Facebook:

http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ison-test.html

"Nothing is more humbling than watching a car with 100 fewer horses and the extra weight of an NFL running back disappear into the distance on a back road. But that's exactly what happened when we brought the two cars together to establish which is the best-driving pony car ever. The answer, as improbable as it seemed, was as obvious as the Camaro's shrinking taillights."
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:04 AM   #31
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I don't get it... How is my SS running almost the same MPH and almost the exact 1/4 time with just headers, tune, and CAI.
This is what is killing me about the ZL1!!!! Yes this car is super well balanced, but come ON!! This car should be trapping low 12s at lest at 118-120 on these test. Then how much closer would it look next to the brut force of the gt500? My SS can run with the avg. zl1 run and it cost half the price with 2k in mods Personally I race at the drags, I love that chevy built such a well balanced car, but they need to step up at the drags with a street legel camaro... And no the copo does not count!
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #32
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After looking at some of the owners times on this bored, how is that they are running just what I said, low 12s! So why cant these so called test show this?
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:14 AM   #33
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I don't get it... How is my SS running almost the same MPH and almost the exact 1/4 time with just headers, tune, and CAI.
Agreed. I'm more of a GT500 but am an all around car guy (drive an 08 Z06) I thought the ZL1 would be a little faster in the quarter initially.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:19 AM   #34
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As others have stated in this thead,I too wish they would actually put them on a track to see if the ZL1's superior cornering can overcome the brute force that is the GT500.
While I'm definately a drag racer and not a road course person, I too would like to see an actual on-track, same day, same driver comparison. I'm sure we will in the near future...
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:24 AM   #35
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I haven't read the text version yet, but I seriously doubt anyone at stvperformance is upset by the results.....
Well, in the text version they give the overall win to the zl1. Maybe this ruffled a few feathers there.

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1st Place: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
An unrivaled combination of precise control, ample power and a strikingly refined — and multitalented — chassis.

2nd Place: 2013 Ford Shelby GT500
More brawn than brains, which isn't a bad thing. Unless there's a ZL1 nearby.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:25 AM   #36
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This is just what people have thought since the GT500 anounced 650+hp. The ZL1 would lose at the strip, but be better at the track. Now it is going to depend on the track, small tight tracks will make the ZL1 shine, larger tracks with bigger turns and straights will favor the GT500. Unfortunatly for most of these cars, the only track they will see is the one that leads into the garage and allows room for the owner to get all the way around it to get the cover on correctly.
Agree almost 100%. Would say the ZL1 would handle easier rather than be better at the track because as pointed out depending on track configuration either car could come out tops. I'm calling the current muscle car war a draw. The winner is the automotive enthusiasts like ourselves.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:28 AM   #37
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Hahaa! This is so cool. This is why WE, as consumers, win overall no matter which brand you prefer! The classic war is back for sure!

I'd still take a ZL1 over a Cobra, though they're both great cars in their own right. They just haven't done enough in the styling department over at Ford to make me consider visiting one of their dealerships.

I'll have a tall glass of Bowtie Kool-Aid please. Straight up.
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I don't get it... How is my SS running almost the same MPH and almost the exact 1/4 time with just headers, tune, and CAI.

Yeah, the heat or something is affecting many of the ZL1s. I've heard reports of some only trapping around 114 mph or so (and running mid to high 12s).

A bolts ons Camaro SS would give many ZL1s a run for their money in a drag race. Or in my case and many others, the bolt ons SS would win the race.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:33 AM   #39
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What kills me about calling a winner or trying to prove which car is best is ultimately a joke. Just spent the entire day at the track and the fact is most of us will never come close to finding the limit of any of these cars. So if they are already more capable than the drivers why not just call it a draw. Or get out to a track or strip with a buddy who drives the other brand (assuming you can be friends with someone like that ;-) and run your own test.

Me? I love 'em both. But as a business owner interested in bottom line performance figures, I'd lean toward the Ford.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:35 AM   #40
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Very interesting read. "best car chevy has made"? Wow. It will be interesting seeing the magazine articles on their head to head sentiments.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:48 AM   #41
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In this Olympic year, a "sprinter" (500) vs. a "decathlete" (ZL1)
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:59 AM   #42
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I'm sure glad that article came out. When read on paper before the head-to-head was done, there was really nothing Camaro could do. Especially when people tried to unfairly compare the ZL1 to the Boss. Great read though.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:29 AM   #43
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GT500 vs Zl1

Hey guys, i have been watching this forum for prolly 2 or 3 years now and i check it almost daily but after finding this test comparison i had to make an account and join you, still dont own one yet but im looking into buying a new 2lt or a used 2ss as long as the price is right . anyway heres the article i think most of us have been waiting for

http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ison-test.html

even with the extra horsepower they still rating the ZL1 a better buy
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:38 AM   #44
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I don't get it... How is my SS running almost the same MPH and almost the exact 1/4 time with just headers, tune, and CAI.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #45
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Zl1 vs Shelby

Idk if everyone has already seen this article or not but they put the Zl1 and the Shelby head to head and the Zl1 came out on top in the end even tho the 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times were slower. The 1/4 times for the Zl1 are kinda sad to me but the car wasn't built for that. Here is the article for anyone who hasn't seen it. http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ison-test.html


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Old 06-12-2012, 10:41 AM   #46
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:53 AM   #47
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Just goes to show, numbers don't tell the whole story!!
After a certain amount of horse power it's no longer who has the most but how you put it to the ground!!
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:05 AM   #48
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Sorry, but that's just a sad time for the ZL1. The guy in the post above is running better, and just has bolt ons. I'd be REAL disappointed if I dropped that kind of coin on a car, and that's all it could pull off. Yes, it's sexy as hell, but I would choose the Shelby for sure.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:16 AM   #49
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I would love to see both in my garage!
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