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Old 06-14-2012, 06:26 PM   #449
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ZRL1....Mustangs toast in a straight line.

GM needs to slap in the LS9 now and offer it in both auto,manual versions!!!!
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:33 PM   #450
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I sure hope that the pot gets stirred before it gets to the table, other wise you just make a mess stirring it at the table.
This table has been a mess for a while... but in between all the bs there are some nuggets of good info passed along.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:35 PM   #451
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Seriously, I get that you hate Mustang and drag racing but a GT500 is equally capable on mountain roads just like a ZL1. To think otherwise is ignorant.

Public mountain roads are not road courses. Who in their right mind is going to drive on a mountain road like they drive on a road course?

The handling capabilities of the ZL1, how ever superior they may be, will be proven on a closed circuit course by a professional driver.
looks like someone hasn't heard of US 129 aka the tail of the dragon. google kill boy. I'm sure you'll find some miata's going sideways, some bikes fully leaned over going all out. to tell me that some people won't push these cars on a public road is naive. I'm not saying it's right to illegally do this. all I'm saying is people will do this, and people have done this. I've been passed on the tail and us 421, the snake, while I was above the speed limit. I won't say how much above because the speed limit is only 35 mph. it's hard not to be most of the time. but hey what do I know. I haven't hung around those roads at all.

also which would you rather take up there? a car that makes you look like a god or a car that is a handful?

both cars are what i expected. the ZL1 being an every mans handling car, and the snake being a handful but capable.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:38 PM   #452
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I wonder when will they (GM and Ford) produce 1000hps stock ponies at this bargain price, .
probably not going to happen. cafe standards be da**ed. but it would be awesome as an enthusiast.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:40 PM   #453
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looks like someone hasn't heard of US 129 aka the tail of the dragon. google kill boy. I'm sure you'll find some miata's going sideways, some bikes fully leaned over going all out. to tell me that some people won't push these cars on a public road is naive. I'm not saying it's right to illegally do this. all I'm saying is people will do this, and people have done this. I've been passed on the tail and us 421, the snake, while I was above the speed limit. I won't say how much above because the speed limit is only 35 mph. it's hard not to be most of the time. but hey what do I know. I haven't hung around those roads at all.

also which would you rather take up there? a car that makes you look like a god or a car that is a handful?

both cars are what i expected. the ZL1 being an every mans handling car, and the snake being a handful but capable.
I wouldn't have said that if I was you.... You could be accused of pot stirring.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:42 PM   #454
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I wouldn't have said that if I was you.... You could be accused of pot stirring.
so be it. I've been called a troll in the vert section before. won't hurt my feelings.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:47 PM   #455
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so with the stang .7 sec faster and the camaro heaver then the stang and 70hp less then the stang thats all the differance? in times
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:07 PM   #456
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That's right... totally forgot about that.

On the other hand. I would love to see Motortrend asking Randy Pobst to drive these two beasts at Leguna Seca on the same day (hopefully same condition).

I wonder when will they (GM and Ford) produce 1000hps stock ponies at this bargain price, .
someone wrote that the head2head matchup from motortrend @ at laguna seca is coming June 27.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:15 PM   #457
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I wouldn't have said that if I was you.... You could be accused of pot stirring.
He brings meaningful dialogue, you never do.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:28 PM   #458
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so with the stang .7 sec faster and the camaro heaver then the stang and 70hp less then the stang thats all the differance? in times


Another person who clearly knows little of what they're talking about.

There is a HUGE difference between .7 seconds in cars that are running 11's and 12s compared to the same elapsed time in cars running 13's and 14s.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:28 PM   #459
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Just as expected.

That GT500 is a HELL of a fast car. Although I'd still have the Camaro- picking up power is alot easier than fixing handling issues.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:33 PM   #460
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BUT when it is 2 different drivers on the same road getting the same result would't you even give a little validity that what he said is true? If you read the artical you would see they swapped drivers after the first run with the same result. So are you saying they both did't do their best driving the Shelby?

Sorry I may be accused of stirring the pot again...
As far as I'm concerned the ZL1 out drives the GT500, period. But IMHO the future collector of the two is the GT500. Last of a breed. Passion will always outlast tech.
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He brings meaningful dialogue, you never do.
And I will continue to do so until I get banned.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:37 PM   #462
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As far as I'm concerned the ZL1 out drives the GT500, period. But IMHO the future collector of the two is the GT500. Last of a breed. Passion will always outlast tech.
History will certainly back that up, even among like models...
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