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Old 06-16-2012, 01:50 PM   #664
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the ZL1 was already a legendary nameplate, don't believe me? Look up the prices on one of the originals...
There were 69 ZL1s built in 1969. It's rare, not legendary.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:50 PM   #665
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Did you really just type that?! Lol
Of course I did... if you had to choose which way would you want it.. call it like I see it...

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No such luck. You gotta "dance with the date that brung ya."
The best part is it's super easy to up the power... The platform and handling not so much...
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:52 PM   #666
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S-t-r-e-t-c-h-I-n-g a little are we??? It makes you appear less than credible.

I will say the Recaros alone are probably good for 50lbs worth of savings.
I didn't use the numbers just its what I imagine he was saying. After all the car doesn't go without a driver. So the suspension and tires have to cope with that weight. So lets hope all Shelby owners are fat.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:58 PM   #667
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I didn't use the numbers just its what I imagine he was saying. After all the car doesn't go without a driver. So the suspension and tires have to cope with that weight. So lets hope all Shelby owners are fat.
I guess the Ford can drive itself since you listed its actual curb weight?!
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:06 PM   #668
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I guess the Ford can drive itself since you listed its actual curb weight?!

Haha I didn't put 4300 number out there lol, im just guessing what the man was thinking.

Seriously tho, think about a ZL1 (4300) or a Shelby (4100) and then a Z06 with driver at 3380, insane they got the vette so light.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:13 PM   #669
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There were 69 ZL1s built in 1969. It's rare, not legendary.
And it dominated its class so.....
are you saying a car can't be both rare and legendary?
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:22 PM   #670
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I know its only 24 lbs different but where did you get 4120?

Inside line has them at 4096 vs. 3869, which is 227 difference.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...l1-test-review

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/24/2...-drive-review/

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Old 06-16-2012, 02:26 PM   #671
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Yeah I saw that earlier. It's funny how the ford owners here latch on to stuff like this, but then when something such as the h2h boss vs. zl1 they forget about.

I mean think about it. What has been the main response from the ford camp since the inside line review? "We need same driver, same track, same conditions review on a real track by a professional driver." Which is how the original boss vs. zl1 comparison was done.

But that's not what we have here is it? Yet, the ford guys etch it into a plaque and whip it out as if it is the ultimate comparison.

Edit: I'm not saying the post is dishonest, but I do have a question that nags me. If the boss LS guy was his first time at a track, then what was he doing in racing slicks? This means he brought an extra set of rims I guess or he trailered his car. It's just a little odd to me. I mean, he obviously came prepared like he knew what he was doing. Or maybe the boss LS guy was not his first time to track. It's not clear who he's talking about.
He was NOT on slicks. He WAS on NT01s. FAR cry from a slick. Trust me, they're on my DD.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:50 PM   #672
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I have never seen a stock mustang. I am being serious to! Stock vette yes, stock camaro not usually, stock mustang never.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:03 PM   #673
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My Mustangs are stock.
You have a rear car my friend. Being stock that's is, not 1 of 4000 boss's. You are definantly part of the 1%.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:09 PM   #674
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who cares if it's 200 or 300 pounds difference. the zl1 is too heavy. shit the gt 500 is too heavy.
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who cares if it's 200 or 300 pounds difference. the zl1 is too heavy. shit the gt 500 is too heavy.
All Camaro's and Mustangs are too heavy these days....at least for this weight nazi....
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The best part is it's super easy to up the power... The platform and handling not so much...
Too true! Better to start with an awesome base suspension, huh?
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:31 PM   #677
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I'd like to know where are all the timeslips from these mid 11 second 13 GT500s from the owners. I think I have seen 1 impressive slip in a month and another video of one be pounced on by a 98 Cobra. All this talk from the SVT gang yet virtually no slips from the owners. They were in here in droves demanding owner slips for the ZL1, but a month on the street you are telling me these cars haven't hit the local unprepped tracks? Are they afraid to post them? I think that the expectation is so high that if owners don't get into the 11s they won't be posted.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:39 PM   #678
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I'd like to know where are all the timeslips from these mid 11 second 13 GT500s from the owners. I think I have seen 1 impressive slip in a month and another video of one be pounced on by a 98 Cobra. All this talk from the SVT gang yet virtually no slips from the owners. They were in here in droves demanding owner slips for the ZL1, but a month on the street you are telling me these cars haven't hit the local unprepped tracks? Are they afraid to post them? I think that the expectation is so high that if owners don't get into the 11s they won't be posted.
Ive seen about 4 posted by shops, 4 by magazine people, and 2 actual owners.
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Ive seen about 4 posted by shops, 4 by magazine people, and 2 actual owners.
Well that's 1 more owner run than I thought,
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:24 PM   #680
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Haha I didn't put 4300 number out there lol, im just guessing what the man was thinking.

Seriously tho, think about a ZL1 (4300) or a Shelby (4100) and then a Z06 with driver at 3380, insane they got the vette so light.
According to R&T it's around a 200lbs. difference. I could get it down to a 100lbs difference without sacrificing any creature comforts. So for all those saying the weight is a HUGE disadvantage...WRONG! Then up the PSI to GT500 levels or even less and advantage ZL1.
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