Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
River City Camaro Customs
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions

5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions General 5th generation Camaro topics not covered by other subforums.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-16-2012, 12:54 AM   #1
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
Question 2012 Camaro 2ss auto vs. manual

I'm new to the forum and would like to say hi to everone out there. I have spent several hours on the forum and this is a great community. I have a huge problem right now. I am having my credit ran as I speak and I can't decide on a Auto trans in victory red or getting the manual in ashen grey metallic. I have been searching through the forum all day and have not found a concrete answer on if the manual or the auto is faster. My wife wants to drive the car sometimes but doesn't know how to drive stick. This means if I get the manual she will learn in the camaro ss :/ Based off your experiences is the auto or manual faster. This will be my last opportunity to buy a car so I want to make sure I make the right decision. All opinions are welcomed and appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:19 AM   #2
camarophinatic47
 
camarophinatic47's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 CAMARO 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 32
the manual has more hp than the auto i wanted a manual but wife wanted to drive sometimes who can blame them its a sexy car so i went with auto i was not going to risk a ruined clutch so she could learn and then not be able to get it fixed so it mad more sense for me to go auto but also in auto there is no shift lag and i know its not the same but the auto has the paddle shift feature so you can still do "manual" hope this helps
camarophinatic47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:23 AM   #3
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
Yeah I read about the paddle shift feature. I just have been torn like everyone else that has been in my shoes. I just hate the fact you loose the addition horse power with the auto but from what I read some believe the auto is faster in a straight line. Obviously the stick is more fun in corners.
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:26 AM   #4
jaysonstuart
 
jaysonstuart's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Englewood, CO
Posts: 297
From what I've read the biggest difference is the LS3 engine that comes with the manual over the L99 that comes with the auto.

It appears the LS3 is much friendlier with bolt-on upgrades and modifications if you ever decide to do that with the vehicle.
jaysonstuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:32 AM   #5
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
Thats a fact I didn't know thanks for posting it. The bolt ons are always great because they are easy. I will be doing this in the future so I must wieght that in my decision.
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:32 AM   #6
mlee
H-Town Camaro Club
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: Number Twenty-Three
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 23,770
If you leave it totally stock the manual is faster... once you do mods and go to the drag strip the Auto is faster. All depends on what you want to do with the car.

...and Welcome to C5... hang out a while and I'm sure you will get lots of good answers
__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:33 AM   #7
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
Thanks for the great advice I am absorbing it all from those who know best!!!
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:36 AM   #8
mlee
H-Town Camaro Club
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: Number Twenty-Three
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 23,770
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysonstuart View Post
From what I've read the biggest difference is the LS3 engine that comes with the manual over the L99 that comes with the auto.

It appears the LS3 is much friendlier with bolt-on upgrades and modifications if you ever decide to do that with the vehicle.
Actually the bolt-ons are the exactly the same for either car until you get into swapping cams and there's really not that big of a difference there either. Do some reading on Displacement on Demand or Active Fuel Management which is basically the only difference between an LS3 and and L99.
__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:40 AM   #9
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
I read about afm and people complaining about the noise in the exhaust. I do city driving so I will be on the gas for the most part. When on the highway I don't think I will mind the AFM kicking in with the price of gas nowadays. Mlee what trans did you get and what gas mileage are you averaging?
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:47 AM   #10
mlee
H-Town Camaro Club
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: Number Twenty-Three
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 23,770
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro154 View Post
I read about afm and people complaining about the noise in the exhaust. I do city driving so I will be on the gas for the most part. When on the highway I don't think I will mind the AFM kicking in with the price of gas nowadays. Mlee what trans did you get and what gas mileage are you averaging?
I've had two autos... as long as you don't put certain aftermarket exhaust systems on you won't hear the low groan that AFM puts out when it goes into 4 cylinders. The factory exhaust has a resonator to eliminate that. Corsa is also one that comes with a resonator in the X-pipe that works very well. I had it on both my cars and never had a problem. Just wanted you to be aware and be smart on your exhaust choices if you go Auto. The first mod most do is exhaust to get rid of the large trash can mufflers out back.

As far as MPG... stock was 22 then after a tune it went up to 25 w/ AFM still turned on. After headers when on, I turned off AFM and lost a couple MPG.

Now I have a manual and sort of wish it was an auto... my wife can drive it, but not comfortably, so she never does any more. I also want the auto for the drag strip...
__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:53 AM   #11
camarophinatic47
 
camarophinatic47's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 CAMARO 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 32
phaseteck.com has a lot of nice mods i was just looking at eddle brock e force superchargers they have bolt ons for both ls3 and l99 nice looking eaither one you end up nwith you will love trust me it all comes down to do you want your wife to learn a manual in that nice of a car i know i didnt so i went auto lol
camarophinatic47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:54 AM   #12
mlee
H-Town Camaro Club
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: Number Twenty-Three
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 23,770
Quote:
Originally Posted by camarophinatic47 View Post
phaseteck.com has a lot of nice mods i was just looking at eddle brock e force superchargers they have bolt ons for both ls3 and l99 nice looking eaither one you end up nwith you will love trust me it all comes down to do you want your wife to learn a manual in that nice of a car i know i didnt so i went auto lol
Jason and Sean at Phastek are awesome... they support our Camaro club here as well..
__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 02:17 AM   #13
camarophinatic47
 
camarophinatic47's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 CAMARO 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 32
i get on that site all the time to check out mods it is a really good website good prices to



































































































.
camarophinatic47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #14
Silverlsinva


 
Silverlsinva's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth Grigio
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Manassas, Va
Posts: 2,998
Well i have a auto SS and i love it but i chose it cause i do drive in traffic alot and do some stop and go so having a manual was a no go for that reason. If i didnt have a lot of traffic i would have went with the Manual its a lil more fun to drive and the Clutch isnt that bad to learn on easy to use imo.
Silverlsinva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 08:51 AM   #15
Bcarr
 
Bcarr's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Convertible
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Hartland, WI
Posts: 253
We have the manual and love it! Ours is just a weekend car but not owning a stick for a while has made this a blast to drive. My wife knows how to drive one though. It's not hard to teach as I was teaching my 16 year old son on it. I know....What am I thinking?

You will love it either way but I believe a car like this deserves a stick shift!

Just my opinion of course!

Bcarr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 08:56 AM   #16
invaderzim
 
invaderzim's Avatar
 
Drives: 45th SS, '12 ducati 1199 on order
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DFW
Posts: 408
if you can only afford the cheapest car possible like a $13k KIA or something, that's one thing. but its 2012. I can't, for the life of me, understand why someone would willingly choose to bother with a clutch EVERY SINGLE TIME they drive a car. its like self torture. specially a car you're paying over $20k for. its a problem bike riders and professional auto/motorcycle racers have been trying to solve since the beginning of time. luckily quickshifters for bikes and shiftable auto trannies on cars are becoming the norm these days.
invaderzim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 08:57 AM   #17
Camaro154
 
Camaro154's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO IOM
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLOVIS/FRESNO CA
Posts: 92
I know I was shocked to see on the forum how well the auto worked for the speed aspect. With the manual I read you have to really drive it hard and shift perfect to match the auto.
Camaro154 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 09:08 AM   #18
SGOS252382


 
SGOS252382's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: S.W. Florida
Posts: 6,281
Basically the question has been answered.

Bone stock the LS3 M6 Camaro SS is faster than the L99 A6 Camaro SS. BUT that is only with a skilled driver behind the wheel.

With average drivers behind the wheel, the L99 A6 wins most drag races. Whenever there's a Camaro track meet, the L99 A6 Camaros usually win most the races (stock vs. stock).

That's because the L99 A6 is much easier to run fast times. It launches off the line better/easier, and you don't have to worry about shifting.

Once modded, all bets are off. But as mentioned, the L99 A6 is much easier to run fast times. I go to the track quite often and the L99 A6 guys usually have very little trouble beating the LS3 M6s (mod vs. mod).
__________________
SGOS252382 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 09:14 AM   #19
Comrando
SScalator
 
Comrando's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 CGM LS3
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 5,940
The auto is quicker on the strip. There are two shifts in the quarter with the stick.

Do you want fastest or more interaction?

Personally we have our car that my wife drives every day and then we have my car.
My wife knows how to drive the Camaro manual if she has to. I also taught all three of our children to drive stick. It's not that complicated. 2-3-4.


In fact the wife showed me the car can start in 3rd and take her anywhere without any shifting.
The only issue was reverse but she got that down.
__________________
Give me fuel. Give me fire. Give me that which I desire.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Slotict/Camaro/Wink-2_zpscd6910bd.jpg
Comrando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 09:21 AM   #20
stlrammer

 
stlrammer's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2LT/RS SGM
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Saint Louis, MO USA
Posts: 1,873
I have the manual and love it but catch some crap from the war department from time to time because she can't drive it and has no interest to learn. If you both want to drive the car buy the auto. Save your relationship.
__________________
stlrammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 09:26 AM   #21
puertoricanfont

 
puertoricanfont's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black Camaro SS
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Jamestown , NY
Posts: 1,600
get the ls3. Theres nothing like rowing throught some gears on a drive. And if your worried about your wife learning to drive standard on the ss pick up a $500 beater and let her practice on that. 426hp can be unrelenting on newbies to manual transmissions.
__________________
puertoricanfont is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2012, 10:07 PM   #22
LADYBMBLEBEE
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 12 2SS/RS Transformer, 11 2LT/RS
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro154 View Post
Yeah I read about the paddle shift feature. I just have been torn like everyone else that has been in my shoes. I just hate the fact you loose the addition horse power with the auto but from what I read some believe the auto is faster in a straight line. Obviously the stick is more fun in corners.
My husband and I bought an automatic because I haven't driven a stick in 30 years and didn't want to re-learn in a brand new Camaro. While not the same, my husband drives it in manual with the paddle shifters all the time. As for horsepower the automatic SS is 400hp and we have no problem keeping up with our friends that drive manual SS. The best thing about the paddle shifters is that if your wife wants to learn to shift gears, the car will not allow you to shift into a gear that is too low or high thus stopping you from damaging your transmission.
LADYBMBLEBEE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2012, 10:55 PM   #23
Kronix
HT5 Coast2Coast
 
Kronix's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 C7 Stingray & 440HP Z71 Tahoe
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: South Jersey & SoCal
Posts: 1,919
Manual hands down more fun to drive. Automatics are for sedans, and pu$$y whipped men that have to worry about their wives bitching......That's why she has her own car.
__________________
Kronix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2012, 01:19 AM   #24
Nessal


 
Drives: Lotus Exige
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: CA, Bay Area
Posts: 2,269
It's all about personal preference or people that can't drive a stick shift. Both are great but when it came down to it, I couldn't buy an automatic Camaro. I find much more enjoyment shifting myself.
Nessal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2012, 02:17 AM   #25
SSGUNNER
Chu no guat a hasa is?
 
SSGUNNER's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 Jeep G Cherokee Overland HEMI
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Some where in So Cal
Posts: 4,164
Either or is a great choice. Depends on what you want. The problem now a days is ignorant folks think they will always out run an auto and think their cool by granny shifting, not double clutching like they should. What a waste. Let's not forget yes LS3 has 26hp over the L99 but mind you the L99 has better/more gears than the LS3. HP doesnt mean squat. Tq? It's only a 10lbs difference.
__________________
11 2SS/RSL99No Longer Stock (Sold) 6/19/14:AAC Plasma DRL's | Plug n play harness | Elite CC | Tint: 35% & 5% | LED Dome light | Show-N-Go Plate Holder | Flowmaster AT | C.A.I. Intake | VMAX CNC Spiral Ported TB | Husky Splash Guards
SSGUNNER is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
2012, auto, camaro, manual, trans

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.