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villan2 · 06-17-2012, 11:15 AM

Wanted to know how many pounds max psi (procharger) you think you can push on a ls3. I have cam, 102 throttle body 102 manifold full exhaust.....

Turbo99 · 06-17-2012, 11:26 AM

Prolly gonna need to know the model of the Procharger before anyone can help.

villan2 · 06-17-2012, 11:49 AM

Ds1 procharger sorry forgot that

carbon8 · 06-17-2012, 12:19 PM

Are we talking about safely. At 8-10lbs you will start running out of fuel.

villan2 · 06-17-2012, 12:21 PM

If i upgrade the fuel system then the psi

speedster · 06-17-2012, 12:22 PM

It really does not matter which form of FI. It is a matter of boost and temperature. There are many, many threads on here of people who have pushed the limits of the LS3, both successful and unsuccessful. The weakest link seems to be the ring lands with aggressive boost/tune.

Seriously, it comes down to how risk oriented you are.

Many have pushed double digit boost. Some made it. Some destroyed their engines.

carbon8 · 06-17-2012, 01:46 PM

There are some really good articles on the web about high hp ls engines.
http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/en...rviving-boost/

carbon8 · 06-17-2012, 01:49 PM

I'm running 15 lbs of boost. But I'm running a triple pump and E85. On a stock motor. But I do have a built motor ready to go in.

camslambam · 06-17-2012, 02:22 PM

Anything over 10 on stock internals is asking for disaster.

With good fuel and tune it will survive but not forever. In a few months something will go poof.

Now if you down the compression and forge you will be able to boost 15+ all day with good fuel and tuning.

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villan2

Wanted to know how many pounds max psi (procharger) you think you can push on a ls3. I have cam, 102 throttle body 102 manifold full exhaust.....

Could you not have 'googled' this, or consulted Procharger website?

here let me google it for you.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
Ahh.... MAX boost is 32psi.
Now, perhaps a more intelligent question would be
How much boost is 'safe' to run...

Asking the second question is going to cause all sorts of 'opinions'. but in short.

I personally am running just shy of 700 on a LS3 stock block, upgraded cam rockers headers type setup... @ 6.5lbs of boost on a M6.. stock clutch, driveshaft, rear end..... everything..

And that is - WITH the D1SC -.

Make sure you set to 1080p... once you start viewing..

Turbo99 · 06-17-2012, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

Could you not have 'googled' this, or consulted Procharger website?

here let me google it for you.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
Ahh.... MAX boost is 32psi.
Now, perhaps a more intelligent question would be
How much boost is 'safe' to run...

Asking the second question is going to cause all sorts of 'opinions'. but in short.

I personally am running just shy of 700 on a LS3 stock block, upgraded cam rockers headers type setup... @ 6.5lbs of boost on a M6.. stock clutch, driveshaft, rear end..... everything..

And that is - WITH the D1SC -.

Make sure you set to 1080p... once you start viewing..

I am sure you are talking 700 engine hp not rear wheel hp right?

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 03:16 PM

I don't believe I stuttered..

700hp -- (just shy... 680 if were being exact. RWHP)

camslambam · 06-17-2012, 03:23 PM

How are you making 700rwhp at 6.5lbs ........ on an ls3.

Custom cam, headwork, intake etc...?

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 03:29 PM

Custom Cam, Dynatech Longtube Headers, Procharger D1SC, with upgraded FMIC,
Custom exhaust, cats are still there but being gutted VERY soon.
Upgrade Fuel Pump, and one hell of a tune?

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 03:29 PM

I suppose my tuner is better than Janetty.. oh right.. he is. (flame suit ON!)

carbon8 · 06-17-2012, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

I don't believe I stuttered..

700hp -- (just shy... 680 if were being exact. RWHP)

I don't believe it. You gained 320hp on 6.5lbs of boost. That's a first.

camslambam · 06-17-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

Custom Cam, Dynatech Longtube Headers, Procharger D1SC, with upgraded FMIC,
Custom exhaust, cats are still there but being gutted VERY soon.
Upgrade Fuel Pump, and one hell of a tune?

The only 6.5lbs D1SC 700rwhp camaro has a custom blower cam, CNC ported heads, fast intake and some other work.

With your current mod list I'd say you're around 600.....

Not trying to start a war here but total BS you're at 700 with your mod list...

Turbo99 · 06-17-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon8

I don't believe it. You gained 320hp on 6.5lbs of boost. That's a first.

Thats why I asked......seems about 80ish HP high on that boost

JLE58 · 06-17-2012, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

I suppose my tuner is better than Janetty.. oh right.. he is. (flame suit ON!)

. That statement proves you know nothing about tuning or the slightest clue what your talking about.

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon8

I don't believe it. You gained 320hp on 6.5lbs of boost. That's a first.

Neither would I, assuming it was a stock engine with just a supercharger.. oh right. that's because its not.

Cam
Headers
Rockers
Retainers
FMIC
Custom Exhaust, built by SPi.
Custom Tune, by SPi..

camslambam · 06-17-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

Neither would I, assuming it was a stock engine with just a supercharger.. oh right. that's because its not.

Cam
Headers
Rockers
Retainers
FMIC
Custom Exhaust, built by SPi.
Custom Tune, by SPi..

lol... You are so clueless and act so pompous that it's incredible.

You're probably around 580rwhp is you're lucky.

Half your mods don't even give power.

HufferSS · 06-17-2012, 04:11 PM

SPI is the same outfit that Calbert uses....1k HP from a D1 on just 13psi...

Where do they get these people?

Asylum...haven't seen you post much...why are you being such a jerk?

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 04:12 PM

OP - > I am running 6.5lbs of boost on a procharger D1SC.
Along with cams, rockers, retainers, valvesprings, headers, custom exhaust (headers back) cats are still in place, will be gutted this week (hopefully)

-- My mistake, as well... 664 HP (RWHP)...

So, in short I have 52,000km's on my car, not sure what that turns out to in mileage... but so far im extremely happy..

I change oil every 6000km, and run 6.5 reliable... so far.... upgraded fuel pump.

To the special needs department that seems to chime in on this post.

Engine Bay:

DYNO Sheet Enlarged:

Should you disagree with the numbers, ect... that's fine,
But instead of diagreeing with me and having a 'heresay' arguement.
Please contact

SPi performance
Located in Oakville, Ontario
http://www.spi-performance.com/
They even have a phone number should you want to argue verbally.

In short, I am super happy with my mods, I love the sound, the power, and the relability..

BUt hey dont just take my word for it, walk on over to the Canadian section and consult the other 20+ customers on the boards that routinely visit them..

I suspect Chris with the 427 hitting 950 should be commenting soon.

Asylum · 06-17-2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HufferSS

SPI is the same outfit that Calbertnuses....1k HP from a D1 on just 13psi...

Where do they get these people?

Asylum...haven't seen you post much...why are you being such a jerk?

I am proud of my investment, proud of my numbers, and am happy with what I've paid for....

I share my 'experience' and 'knowledge' althought somewhat limited I'll admit.. and I'm met with arrogance, and negativity ---

As such, I shall respond accordingly

Happy Sunday!

camslambam · 06-17-2012, 04:15 PM

Hi.
I have little knowledge on cars.
I'm going to make extremely arrogant and pompous posts and downgrade one of the best Camaro tuners in the United States because my car runs 6.5lbs of boost and has "700rwhp."
I mention rockers, bolts and chromed parts on my mod list. When questioned I insult people.

Do I have it right?

No one cares about your 6.5lbs psi procharger. OP was asking for max boost. Not fairytale numbers.

06-17-2012, 11:15 AM	#1
villan2 Drives: Camaro ss 2010 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Stremwood,IL Posts: 70 View My Garage	Max boost procharger? Wanted to know how many pounds max psi (procharger) you think you can push on a ls3. I have cam, 102 throttle body 102 manifold full exhaust.....

06-17-2012, 11:26 AM	#2
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,061 View My Garage	Prolly gonna need to know the model of the Procharger before anyone can help. __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 11psi 11.20 @ 126mph TVS2300 , Twin Carbon Street Slayer Clutch & 1000HP Axles,JRE cam & tune,LPE Fuel, Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

06-17-2012, 12:22 PM	#6
speedster SST... Drives: SST Camaro 2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Coast of Florida Posts: 6,073 View My Garage	It really does not matter which form of FI. It is a matter of boost and temperature. There are many, many threads on here of people who have pushed the limits of the LS3, both successful and unsuccessful. The weakest link seems to be the ring lands with aggressive boost/tune. Seriously, it comes down to how risk oriented you are. Many have pushed double digit boost. Some made it. Some destroyed their engines. __________________

06-17-2012, 04:11 PM	#22
HufferSS I Wanna Go Faster!! Drives: 2011 2SS Synergy Green M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SC Posts: 3,339	SPI is the same outfit that Calbert uses....1k HP from a D1 on just 13psi... Where do they get these people? Asylum...haven't seen you post much...why are you being such a jerk? __________________ Built by Vengeance Racing 9.31@154.81 mph Procharger F1-X RPM Level 7 4L80e + Coan Converter Hendrix 9" Rear Axle + 3.50 Gear ARH 2" LTs+3.5" Exhaust Fore Fuel System, Bogarts + Hoosier Slicks Pfadt Drag Pack Suspension My Build Thread \| Best Pass To Date

06-17-2012, 11:49 AM	#3
villan2 Drives: Camaro ss 2010 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Stremwood,IL Posts: 70 View My Garage	Ds1 procharger sorry forgot that

06-17-2012, 12:19 PM	#4
carbon8 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS,2008 Hayabusa Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Yukon,Oklahoma Posts: 627	Are we talking about safely. At 8-10lbs you will start running out of fuel.

06-17-2012, 12:21 PM	#5
villan2 Drives: Camaro ss 2010 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Stremwood,IL Posts: 70 View My Garage	If i upgrade the fuel system then the psi

06-17-2012, 01:46 PM	#7
carbon8 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS,2008 Hayabusa Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Yukon,Oklahoma Posts: 627	There are some really good articles on the web about high hp ls engines. http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/en...rviving-boost/

06-17-2012, 01:49 PM	#8
carbon8 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS,2008 Hayabusa Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Yukon,Oklahoma Posts: 627	I'm running 15 lbs of boost. But I'm running a triple pump and E85. On a stock motor. But I do have a built motor ready to go in.

06-17-2012, 02:22 PM	#9
camslambam Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS, 06 SRT10 Ram Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: C. America Posts: 1,668	Anything over 10 on stock internals is asking for disaster. With good fuel and tune it will survive but not forever. In a few months something will go poof. Now if you down the compression and forge you will be able to boost 15+ all day with good fuel and tuning.

06-17-2012, 03:16 PM	#12
Asylum Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS RS Black on Black Manual 6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brampton Posts: 445	I don't believe I stuttered.. 700hp -- (just shy... 680 if were being exact. RWHP)

06-17-2012, 03:23 PM	#13
camslambam Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS, 06 SRT10 Ram Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: C. America Posts: 1,668	How are you making 700rwhp at 6.5lbs ........ on an ls3. Custom cam, headwork, intake etc...?

06-17-2012, 03:29 PM	#14
Asylum Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS RS Black on Black Manual 6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brampton Posts: 445	Custom Cam, Dynatech Longtube Headers, Procharger D1SC, with upgraded FMIC, Custom exhaust, cats are still there but being gutted VERY soon. Upgrade Fuel Pump, and one hell of a tune?

06-17-2012, 04:12 PM	#23
Asylum Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS RS Black on Black Manual 6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brampton Posts: 445	OP - > I am running 6.5lbs of boost on a procharger D1SC. Along with cams, rockers, retainers, valvesprings, headers, custom exhaust (headers back) cats are still in place, will be gutted this week (hopefully) -- My mistake, as well... 664 HP (RWHP)... So, in short I have 52,000km's on my car, not sure what that turns out to in mileage... but so far im extremely happy.. I change oil every 6000km, and run 6.5 reliable... so far.... upgraded fuel pump. To the special needs department that seems to chime in on this post. Engine Bay: DYNO Sheet Enlarged: Should you disagree with the numbers, ect... that's fine, But instead of diagreeing with me and having a 'heresay' arguement. Please contact SPi performance Located in Oakville, Ontario http://www.spi-performance.com/ They even have a phone number should you want to argue verbally. In short, I am super happy with my mods, I love the sound, the power, and the relability.. BUt hey dont just take my word for it, walk on over to the Canadian section and consult the other 20+ customers on the boards that routinely visit them.. I suspect Chris with the 427 hitting 950 should be commenting soon.

06-17-2012, 04:15 PM	#25
camslambam Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS, 06 SRT10 Ram Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: C. America Posts: 1,668	Hi. I have little knowledge on cars. I'm going to make extremely arrogant and pompous posts and downgrade one of the best Camaro tuners in the United States because my car runs 6.5lbs of boost and has "700rwhp." I mention rockers, bolts and chromed parts on my mod list. When questioned I insult people. Do I have it right? No one cares about your 6.5lbs psi procharger. OP was asking for max boost. Not fairytale numbers.