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Old 12-17-2007, 11:50 PM   #1
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The Tundra...you've got to be kidding..

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Toyota recalls Tundra pickups

December 15, 2007
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Toyota Motor Corp. is recalling 15,600 new Tundra large pickups because a rear driveshaft can separate and cause the wheels to stop turning, a setback in the company's challenge to U.S. rivals' dominance in such trucks.

The recall covers four-wheel drive versions of the 2007 Tundra, Toyota said Friday. There has been one occurrence of the problem, with no accidents or injuries, the company said.

The flaw follows an earlier announcement by Toyota that it would replace V8 engines in 20 of the 2007 trucks because of defective camshafts. The revamped Tundra also failed to win top safety scores for all model types in National Highway Traffic Safety Administration tests. Friday's recall is "small in terms of numbers, but when you look at the number of incidents Toyota has had on the Tundra, it begins to add up," said Dennis Virag, president of Automotive Consulting Group in Ann Arbor. "Pickups are a different breed of animal. Toyota is still on a learning curve."
"because a rear driveshaft can separate"

We asked the real pickup-truck owners what they wanted in a truck, and they said bigger brakes, and more power, etc.....

and the ability to lose your driveshaft, allowing you to pole-vault over the car in front of you.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:02 AM   #2
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That's a really catastrophic problem. MythBusters should try to induce this problem and see how far the truck will launch.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:04 AM   #3
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:27 AM   #4
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That's a really catastrophic problem. MythBusters should try to induce this problem and see how far the truck will launch.
The already proved that it's pretty much impossible to catapult your car with you driveshaft. Although, I will say from personal experience, it is quite exciting when it rips in half and comes through the floor right next to you…
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:50 AM   #5
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The already proved that it's pretty much impossible to catapult your car with you driveshaft. Although, I will say from personal experience, it is quite exciting when it rips in half and comes through the floor right next to you…
I must've missed that one. In that case, they should see if it's possible to impale somebody with the driveshaft.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:51 AM   #6
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The Tundra is the worst thing to happen to Toyota. They rushed it, yet the Silverado still beat it to market. It was the start of all of their quality problems. And while it looks good on paper, the small things just aren't class leading, and reliability problems like this will turn the true truck guys away in droves.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:59 AM   #7
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The Tundra is the worst thing to happen to Toyota. They rushed it, yet the Silverado still beat it to market. It was the start of all of their quality problems. And while it looks good on paper, the small things just aren't class leading, and reliability problems like this will turn the true truck guys away in droves.
It's a damned shame too. They had a good thing going and they got sloppy. I guarantee you Toyota will sell more cars next year than they did this year, but they'll produce them poorly and cheaply, tarnishing an otherwise good brand.
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Old 12-18-2007, 01:02 AM   #8
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Its just like the GM of the late 70s until recently. They grew big, invincible, and cocky. People would buy the stuff just because of the name and rep, but really it is sub par. Eventually it will catch up to them. Such is the cycle.
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Old 12-18-2007, 06:33 AM   #9
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I like the 'Myth Busters' idea.

Maybe they can also debunk the myth that Toyota's are so reliable and indestructible.
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:16 AM   #10
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When I was a teen five friends and I were in "Toms" fathers Bonneville. We pulled up to another guys house to let him out and missed the shoveled gap in the snow bank. So "Tom" instead of backing up did a neutral drop into reverse. We went nowhere. There was a loud "thunk". We opened the passenger door just in time to see the whole drive shaft roll down to the curb. Yup.... snapped it off at both ends.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:14 AM   #11
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I like the 'Myth Busters' idea.

Maybe they can also debunk the myth that Toyota's are so reliable and indestructible.
That's a good idea. They should try setting up some of the stunts that Toyota has set up in ads. When the truck fails, they should try to set up a Silverado doing the same thing to see if it does better.
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:28 PM   #12
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this reminds me of whe ford recalled some off number of SUV's because the front passeneger side wheel had a tendancy to FLY off while driving down the road, and the again when they recalled Most RANGER CC bc it was hot wired to stay on
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:51 PM   #13
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I keep saying it, Toyota and Honda make good little cars. Anything else and Ford and GM tend to beat them for reliability. But I can't get people to listen to me. The latest argument that I have heard is that places like Edmunds and J.D. Power are biased towards domestic vehicles
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