Where are all the N2O guys???

[mikepage0007]

the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to take place more rapidly.
so, in laymans terms, the cylinders with the most nitrous will combust{explode} quicker then the cylinders that have less, resulting in uneven power cycle...if direct porting was not better to hit each cylinder, then why use fuel rails and injectors for each cylinder for fuel ...just thro a couple big fuel injectors in front of the blower and shoot some fuel thru it and hope each cylinder gets a even flow of fuel..wait , that almost sounds like a carbarateur , i should pull my injectors and go with a carb, that would be more efficient for even dispertion..lol

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to take place more rapidly.
so, in laymans terms, the cylinders with the most nitrous will combust{explode} quicker then the cylinders that have less, resulting in uneven power cycle...if direct porting was not better to hit each cylinder, then why use fuel rails and injectors for each cylinder for fuel ...just thro a couple big fuel injectors in front of the blower and shoot some fuel thru it and hope each cylinder gets a even flow of fuel..wait , that almost sounds like a carbarateur , i should pull my injectors and go with a carb, that would be more efficient for even dispertion..lol

Whatever makes you feel better.

You still haven't answered how the blower manages to disperse air (a gas) evenly but won't disperse nitrous (also a gas) evenly....

Jes sayin...

Gasoline....isn't a gas..it's liquid. Nitrous is a gas....not a liquid like gasoline...so your carburetor example is kind of not relevant.

[mikepage0007]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

Whatever makes you feel better.

You still haven't answered how the blower manages to disperse air (a gas) evenly but won't disperse nitrous (also a gas) evenly....

Jes sayin...

Gasoline....isn't a gas..it's liquid. Nitrous is a gas....not a liquid like gasoline...so your carburetor example is kind of not relevant.

yur outhinkin me,...hmmmmmmmmmmms m0:

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

yur outhinkin me,...hmmmmmmmmmmms m0:

Not sure how to respond here.."...out thinking someone is unfamiliar ground for me....

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Nice debating here....I think that you heavy hitters are showing/teaching us a lot here. Exactly what I was hoping ot see and hear.

As far as installing goes, how are most of you running your lines and mounting your bottles?

[CyberPredator]

On top of what Huffer said N20 is not nearly as volatile as one might think. It's very similar to the air we breath but instead of 21% oxygen it's 38%. Pure oxygen would have a lot more punch but would be very combustible and dangerous. Hence the use of the inert gas nitrogen for stability. But Mike you are on the right path for the benefits of Direct port. But not the nitrous part more so the fuel part. Our intakes and superchargers were not designed to flow liquid so without proper fuel atomization you start to have issues with insufficient amounts of fuel in certain cylinders and said cylinders running lean. But that's something you usually have to worry about when you start getting to the bigger shots usually over 200.

[mikepage0007]

i have read that resting with direct port it is actually less effective with carb engines as the time required for the fuel to flow thru the runners...but oppisite with fuel injectors as the fuel is there immediate...also if you look at my direct port, you will see another nozzle on each cylinder, that is the 110 octane nozzle...when wot, the 110 will flow with the nos ,

[Pro Stock John]

Originally Posted by scottywheels

I am going with the NOS Outlet 1 gallon cell ( For 110 octane) with the Pump and regulator, NOS Outlet system up 200 worth of N2O with remote heater, Timing Delay, N2O controller and 15 lbs bottle. If the car allreadt went 11.30 hopiing to be close to that 10:00 mark...

Also added built rear with 3:70 gears..

Look forward to your results, is this a plate or a direct port setup you will be doing? My 2000 Z/28 went 11.3 and 10.00 on a 150 on a 1.38 so I'm thinking you could 10.00 on a 200 shot leaving a little easier.

[Texas2SS]

First time out spraying last night. Time for a tire upgrade...
Car left the line spinning ending up with a 1.98 60ft. ET sucked, went 11.65x but @ 126.2 mph.

[Badbubba]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

First time out spraying last night. Time for a tire upgrade...
Car left the line spinning ending up with a 1.98 60ft. ET sucked, went 11.65x but @ 126.2 mph.

Envy. Hope my tune gets straightened out soon. :(

[B-Rex]

It sounds small fry next to some of you guys but, im waiting on a few parts to get here through the mail and i will have everything i need to install my 100 shot. i will post up some pics whenever i can get it into the car

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by Badbubba

Envy. Hope my tune gets straightened out soon. :(

How big of shot are you running?

Originally Posted by B-Rex

It sounds small fry next to some of you guys but, im waiting on a few parts to get here through the mail and i will have everything i need to install my 100 shot. i will post up some pics whenever i can get it into the car

What kind of system will you be running?

[SSE 4 2SS]

Originally Posted by B-Rex

It sounds small fry next to some of you guys but, im waiting on a few parts to get here through the mail and i will have everything i need to install my 100 shot. i will post up some pics whenever i can get it into the car

Small fry is relative... You'll be the big dog compared to the vast majority of folks on here...

Looking forward to the pics..

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

Small fry is relative... You'll be the big dog compared to the vast majority of folks on here...

Looking forward to the pics..

Agreed! There are not a grip of people squeezing (or at least that are chiming in to say so) so you'll have the upper hand by far.

Makes me wonder if N2O has gotten such a bad rap in the past or if people just aren't educated on it's benefits as to why there aren't more people jumping on it.

Either way, I guess it's nice for those who are runnin it........

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

Agreed! There are not a grip of people squeezing (or at least that are chiming in to say so) so you'll have the upper hand by far.

Makes me wonder if N2O has gotten such a bad rap in the past or if people just aren't educated on it's benefits as to why there aren't more people jumping on it.

Either way, I guess it's nice for those who are runnin it........

I think it's a little bit of both.

A good system and a good tune makes all the difference in the world.
Prime example being my car. It has no interior engine work and went 126mph in the 1320....When the damn thing finally hooks that will be high 10s. Not too shabby for a stock motor with some bolt ons.

[scottywheels]

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Look forward to your results, is this a plate or a direct port setup you will be doing? My 2000 Z/28 went 11.3 and 10.00 on a 150 on a 1.38 so I'm thinking you could 10.00 on a 200 shot leaving a little easier.

We shall see John....The rear goes in tomorrow, I got new DR coming with bigger side sidewall.... all that is left is putting the spray on the car next week.... running 110 in the one gallon fuel cell, so I wont have to pull as much timing...

[Badbubba]

[QUOTE=Texas2SS;5190787]How big of shot are you running?
Put a 50 in it just to make sure everything worked. But motor n/a tune is off. Working on getting the afr corrected. Then will tune n20 system for a 100 shot. If no fuel issues, maybe more.

[Texas2SS]

[QUOTE=Badbubba;5191802]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

How big of shot are you running?
Put a 50 in it just to make sure everything worked. But motor n/a tune is off. Working on getting the afr corrected. Then will tune n20 system for a 100 shot. If no fuel issues, maybe more.

Running a stand alone fuel system with it or no?

[Badbubba]

[QUOTE=Texas2SS;5191916]

Originally Posted by Badbubba

Running a stand alone fuel system with it or no?

No plan on stand alone, but plan on a zl1 pump.

[Texas2SS]

[QUOTE=Badbubba;5194157]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

No plan on stand alone, but plan on a zl1 pump.

I got ya.

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

I think it's a little bit of both.

A good system and a good tune makes all the difference in the world.
Prime example being my car. It has no interior engine work and went 126mph in the 1320....When the damn thing finally hooks that will be high 10s. Not too shabby for a stock motor with some bolt ons.

Damn! That's awesome! Hows your 60' on that and what kind of shot you running? 100? 150?

[QUOTE=Badbubba;5194157]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

No plan on stand alone, but plan on a zl1 pump.

Hearing alot about the pump swap. Anybody do it and know if it's a plug and play?

/Ivan

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

Damn! That's awesome! Hows your 60' on that and what kind of shot you running? 100? 150?


/Ivan

That was with a 2.0x 60ft. Still running my little 305/35/18 tires I ran with just bolt ons. They spin the whole way out even with 14psi.

Will be upgrading to 305/45/18 and a set of skinnies, that should do the trick.

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

That was with a 2.0x 60ft. Still running my little 305/35/18 tires I ran with just bolt ons. They spin the whole way out even with 14psi.

Will be upgrading to 305/45/18 and a set of skinnies, that should do the trick.

Hell of a backend on that run yeah! Love hearing those times with a 2.0x 60'.

Rock out!
Ivan

[B-Rex]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

What kind of system will you be running?

im going to be running a zex wet, waiting on a fuel pressure sensor and window/TPS switch to get here, then gotta find time for the install, and finally gotta find time to get a little bit of timing pulled. Im running pretty hot right now, so i don't want to become a carnage horror story before i even get up and running properly lol

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by B-Rex

im going to be running a zex wet, waiting on a fuel pressure sensor and window/TPS switch to get here, then gotta find time for the install, and finally gotta find time to get a little bit of timing pulled. Im running pretty hot right now, so i don't want to become a carnage horror story before i even get up and running properly lol

Completely understand what you mean. We pulled 4 degrees on mine but I'm also using 116 race fuel.