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Old 05-01-2010, 08:18 PM   #1
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Horsepower TV LS3 Crate Engine Dyno

I saw the episode of Horsepower TV where they dynoed an LS3 crate engine called the E Rod. They were saying that it is the same engine from the 09 Corvette and 10 Camaro SS. It layed out 490HP and 440TQ. I am wondering if this is the same engine or higher performance version. Anyone know?
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:20 PM   #2
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I would like to know as well. When did you see the episode of Horsepower TV?
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:25 PM   #3
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I just watched it. I TVIOed it from 9:30am on Spike. It should be on again tomorrow.
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:34 PM   #4
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The e-rod LS3 is rated at 430 hp according to the website. It shows it equipped with cast iron manifolds and cats though so that it can be used in a variety of applications legally. I'm assuming they installed it the right way (with long tube headers and no cats) on horsepower tv. This probably explains the better results.

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/ho...ction=overview
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:22 PM   #5
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The E Rod package is an emissions legal package for those who require a complete certified engine package. One state currently requires that any new project vehicles registered have an emissions legal package.

I have heard that the dyno at Horsepower is "happy" I don't know.

I had a Corvette configured LS3 on the engine on the engine dyno last year for a cam test story.

With headers and a electic water pump it made a baseline of 480 horsepower.

I think that they are a little under rated.

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Old 05-01-2010, 10:33 PM   #6
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The e-rod LS3 is rated at 430 hp according to the website. It shows it equipped with cast iron manifolds and cats though so that it can be used in a variety of applications legally. I'm assuming they installed it the right way (with long tube headers and no cats) on horsepower tv. This probably explains the better results.

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/ho...ction=overview
Nope, they were installing it in a "supercar", kit car. I caught a little bit of it, but the general theme of the episode was that it was a "eco" friendly supercar, that is legal in more states now (resale-ability). I believe it had a LS1 in it before? I either missed that part or they didn't go into detail... they don't go into much detail of anything.

As for the high HP on their dyno tests.... I would expect HP-TV to pump out close to 500 hp out of a LS3... it was a crate engine. Whatever it was that they did to it (again, either missed or they didn't go into detail), it sounded damn good, and they thought so too!

As for the LS3 E-rod, dunno... do some google, maybe? I guess I wasn't that intersted in the 'e-rod' part of the show.

Can anyone say A.D.D.?
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:42 PM   #7
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490 flywheel horsepower sounds about right for a stock LS3 with no parasitic loss from accessories (no power steering, alternator, A/C, etc).
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:16 AM   #8
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:26 AM   #9
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So can I buy some decals and badges that say 490hp!
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At the beginning of the show they stated that it was a crate enging that made 430HP. And they also stated that the car did have a LS1 in it. Thats about all I saw, my DVR messed up, but I will be watching it in the morning
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:43 AM   #11
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:52 AM   #12
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It's crazy that I was randomly looking through channels, randomly found this show that I've never heard of before, come straight to Camaro5, and there's already a thread about it.
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What's with Copeland's vampire teeth?
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Dyno was done with the supplied "Camaro styled" exhaust manifolds and cats. The show high-lighted emission friendly hot rodding from a factory crate engine.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:05 AM   #15
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What's with Copeland's vampire teeth?

Yeah im surprised he wasnt trying to bite people.

They did have cats on it by the way...made me want to go for a drive...god I love my SS
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:12 AM   #16
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same engine in the SS, as they stated. Just lost alot of HP in the C5 once installed?

VVV..those blasted cats & restrictors/resonators..

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Old 05-02-2010, 11:25 AM   #17
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We tested a well broken in, take out LS3 on the Wegner Motor Sports Engine dyno. No accessories, electic water pump, Dyno headers & no cats.

The engine made just shy of 500hp.
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Old 05-02-2010, 04:52 PM   #18
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Didn't they used the Edelbrock supplied ECM and if so maybe the tune is not as conservative as the stock GM tune
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:04 PM   #19
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I didn't think about the tune. That very well may be where the HP came from.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:32 PM   #20
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They claimed it was all stock GM stuff available for aftermarket hot rodding and eco friendly. I was shocked that the engine dynoed at 495 HP and 440 torque. Very impressive.

Camaro Exhaust manifolds
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Only a water pump, I think
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Now if the price was well south of $15K it might be a good option for L99 owners.
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