Have you seen this?!

[ihaveacamaro]

This guy did a test for 2 years on the effectiveness of Optimum Opticoat 2.0.

Be warned there is READING! Skip to the last link if you want to just see before and afters.

This is amazing!

Initial application: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...at-review.html

2 weeks later: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...at-review.html

Five months after video: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...r-beading.html

15 months later: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...ate-after.html

Final Update: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...r-2-years.html

Consider me sold! Once I correct my paint, this is what I'm going to be using!

Props to the guy who made that experiment and stuck with it!

[jrisebo]

I read thru it, and didnt see if after washing it ever he added a wax to protect it, or dont you add wax on top?

[ihaveacamaro]

I've been reading up on it. You can apply wax, but it won't bond properly and will thus have a much shorter life.

Apparently, after using the optimum opti coat, you just have to use your normal car wash soap, or if you're in between washes, just a detail spray will suffice!

[WiSSDiver]

I'm wondering if after initial paint correction, application of Opticoat, would your wax work better if you apply a sealant, Glaze first, then wax?? Dylan or Todd. would you guys be able to weigh in on this?

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by rpomeroy

I'm wondering if after initial paint correction, application of Opticoat, would your wax work better if you apply a sealant, Glaze first, then wax?? Dylan or Todd. would you guys be able to weigh in on this?

honestly, I think that the whole point of the opticoat is so that you don't have to wax anymore.

Think about it this way, wax doesn't add shine, it's for protection. Opticoat is a permanent PROTECTION.

Once you clean it up with a glaze or detail spray, it should be as shiny as you can get it.

This is assuming you've done the appropriate paint correction first though.

[Stinkpickle]

Think of Opti-Coat as a over the counter clear coat for your vehicle.

You need to make sure your paint is in perfect condition and flawless, or imperfections left after application will be there for the long run.

The only way to safely remove it should be with a compound. You should still be able to use a cheater product with it like a Glaze, and/or detail spray to help enhance the clay.

I don't see why there would be any harm using a wax or sealant on top of it, it just probably wont last nearly as long.



All IMO.

[jrisebo]

I see. I guess I was thinking if I put this on top of my clear coat, as another clear coat, what stops it from getting all beat up and dull like my clear coat if I dont wax or protect it? Seems a bit daft to cover a clear coat with clear coat. How does it still bead water after 2 years? seems amazing stuff!

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by jrisebo

I see. I guess I was thinking if I put this on top of my clear coat, as another clear coat, what stops it from getting all beat up and dull like my clear coat if I dont wax or protect it? Seems a bit daft to cover a clear coat with clear coat. How does it still bead water after 2 years? seems amazing stuff!

Its much harder than clear coat. I've been stalking an optimum employee on the autopia forums and he posted that the optimum opticoat can get to a hardness level of 9 h. diamond is at 9 h. Yeah apparently there is a scale measuring hardness.... Hehe

[Angelo@Autopia]

Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 cross-links to form a permanent film ( coating ) that outlasts and outperforms all LSP's out there. It provides better scratch and mar resistance on the surface and, better UV resistance, better chemical etch resistance so therefore keeps your ride's finish clean much more longer and continues to bead for a very very long time. I don't see any purpose in using glazes or waxes on it all I recommend is a good QD and enjoy it. To the OP I do remember that write up and also remember someone else over there by the name of KC doing one also.

[jeffny09]

But can i use polishes and waxes n sealants on it?

[cbass]

Originally Posted by jeffny09

But can i use polishes and waxes n sealants on it?

I believe the answer is yes, but you are wasting your time and money by doing so.

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by jeffny09

But can i use polishes and waxes n sealants on it?

Polishes clean paint. But here's the thing, before you apply opticoat, you're supposed to have it your car totally polished and swirl free. That way, you "lock in" your paint job.

Once you lock in your paint job, polishes won't be effective, because they won't be working on the paint anymore, they will be working on the Opticoat. You simply won't have to use polish and if you do, it will be wasted.

Similarly, you can use waxes and sealants, but since opticoat will be much better at protecting your car than either of those could ever be, that would also be a waste.

[cbass]

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

Its much harder than clear coat. I've been stalking an optimum employee on the autopia forums and he posted that the optimum opticoat can get to a hardness level of 9 h. diamond is at 9 h. Yeah apparently there is a scale measuring hardness.... Hehe

That doesn't sound right. As hard as diamond? What happens when you get into an accident or get a dent and have to repair a body panel? You have no way of sanding down the finish unless you find diamond sand paper?

[CamaroDreams07]

Originally Posted by cbass

That doesn't sound right. As hard as diamond? What happens when you get into an accident or get a dent and have to repair a body panel? You have no way of sanding down the finish unless you find diamond sand paper?

Yeah that's absolute BS.

Give it a little tappy tap

[jeffny09]

Originally Posted by cbass

That doesn't sound right. As hard as diamond? What happens when you get into an accident or get a dent and have to repair a body panel? You have no way of sanding down the finish unless you find diamond sand paper?

Lmao..its as hard as a diamond it also.protects u.from.dents!!!and accidents lol

[ihaveacamaro]

don't shoot the messenger....

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/...tml#post328520

[CamaroDreams07]

If you read down it also says you can polish it off if there's a high spot. I don't know about you all, but none of my polishing equipment would touch diamond. Sounds like their company boy is exaggerating a little. Or a lot, more likely.

Give it a little tappy tap

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

If you read down it also says you can polish it off if there's a high spot. I don't know about you all, but none of my polishing equipment would touch diamond. Sounds like their company boy is exaggerating a little. Or a lot, more likely.

Give it a little tappy tap

maybe, but I could care less about the hardness of the product. I'm sold purely on what is shown in the OP.

Fixing a clear coat failure for over 2 years is a win in my book

[cbass]

If anyone has this product and is around the Chicagoland area, then I can give it a durability test. I would need very little of it.

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by cbass

If anyone has this product and is around the Chicagoland area, then I can give it a durability test. I would need very little of it.

The links I posted to in the OP show a durability test... of over 2 years! Not sure why you would offer to do a durability test if it's already done lol

[cbass]

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

The links I posted to in the OP show a durability test... of over 2 years! Not sure why you would offer to do a durability test if it's already done lol

Test the "diamond" hardness finish. With it being that hard it should be pretty chip resistant?

[destroyerofu2]

the last link had them fixing the swirl marks from "improper washing" so are you saying that the car wash was using Dimond rags to wash the car.

so there is your durability test. It works but is not dimond hard and is still able to get scraches

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by cbass

Test the "diamond" hardness finish. With it being that hard it should be pretty chip resistant?

As destroyer says below, there can still be swirl marks in the optimum opticoat, so yeah doubt it is "diamond" hard, and I don't think it is chip resistant lol

Originally Posted by destroyerofu2

the last link had them fixing the swirl marks from "improper washing" so are you saying that the car wash was using Dimond rags to wash the car.

so there is your durability test. It works but is not dimond hard and is still able to get scraches

Again, don't shoot the messenger. I was just quoting chris@optimum.

Personally, like I said before, I don't really care for the whole diamond hard thing.

The thing to take away here is that the optimum opti-clear coat is supposed to be harder than the soft urethane clear coats that we get from the factory.

AND it can restore a car from clear-coat failure.

[Todd@Autopia]

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

This guy did a test for 2 years on the effectiveness of Optimum Opticoat 2.0.

Be warned there is READING! Skip to the last link if you want to just see before and afters.

This is amazing!

Initial application: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...at-review.html

2 weeks later: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...at-review.html

Five months after video: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...r-beading.html

15 months later: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...ate-after.html

Final Update: http://prodetailing.blogspot.com/201...r-2-years.html

Consider me sold! Once I correct my paint, this is what I'm going to be using!

Props to the guy who made that experiment and stuck with it!

Several years ago I worked with a friend (the experiment was his idea) to tape half of his car and apply Opti-Coat (before it was officially released) to one half. Almost 2 years later, after washing the paint with caustic soaps, acidic soaps, acid, degreasers, and dawn, the water was still beading like new.

[jeffny09]

Originally Posted by Todd@Autopia

Several years ago I worked with a friend (the experiment was his idea) to tape half of his car and apply Opti-Coat (before it was officially released) to one half. Almost 2 years later, after washing the paint with caustic soaps, acidic soaps, acid, degreasers, and dawn, the water was still beading like new.

But will it shine? Swirl proof?