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Old 06-25-2012, 10:13 AM   #35
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I have pretty much stock except exhaust and CAI... I have the stock run flat Pirelli's and like many others if you take off traction control only and dump the clutch this car will literally roast the tires like the poster who included a picture of his tires. I'm not sure why you can't...
He's asking about not dumping the clutch...plus most of them will wheel hop BAD if you do that in first...you want a real burnout, turn off TC and Stability Control, put it in second (or third if you're brave) put your right foot on the floor, and dump the clutch right before you hit the rev limiter...be ready to steer.

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really?
Yes, stock tires are run flats...I felt really bad for the tire guys that have to take them off...the sidewalls feel like iron.

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Agreed. Blowing the tires off means spinning tilll you have to grab the next gear.
Exactly...my 4th gen was like that...totally different car/weight/suspension/wheel/tire...if that car started spinning in first, it'd smash the limter, I'd grab second, and it'd keep spinning. That's not happening in this car.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:46 AM   #36
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OT - stock tires arent run flats...mine werent.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:58 AM   #37
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When I bought my gxp I thought mine were too since I don't have a factory spare but mine are not.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:50 PM   #38
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You have to hold the TC down for 8 secs to turn it completely off?
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Old 06-25-2012, 04:22 PM   #39
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Hey MikeOD, you have 500 hp at the wheels so the 3.45's should be okay for you, but guys closer to stock will appreciate the shorter gears. If you end up getting 4.10/4.11 with those 500 horses you won't be able to touch the gas without losing traction lol
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:39 PM   #40
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Its you tune....hombreito.

Tampa tuning can provide a good HP baseline and give pretty good feedback on the data logs......saves booqoo time.....the config file on my car is flipping 5Meg......nobody can learn that in a vaccuum.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:50 PM   #41
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According to this, they ran 24 degrees of timing on a supercharged LS3 with 8-9lbs of boost, although it doesn't specify the fuel used. However, they also say further down on the page:

"Octane to support boost or timing? 3/4 octane per degree and 1.5 octane per PSI. More data on Jim Bell’s Supercharged/ Turbocharged Performance Guide http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Commo...tVariables.pdf
At KB , we set timing at 18° and boost at 9psi for 91 octane. 93 octane allows another 2psi or 2 – 3° spark but NOT both. Higher ECT, IAT and ambient temps will retard spark via the ECM and protect the engine from harmful detonation."



This tells me that the knock sensors are way too sensitive, at least on my car. My 05 Silverado with LQ4 6.0L engine runs fine with no knock at 32+ degrees of timing. The LS3 is not that "special" when it comes to AFR's and ignition advance. Sure it has a little more compression, but should still safely tolerate 26-28 degrees of timing without knock on 93 octane, especially with 12.5:1 or richer AFRs.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:40 PM   #42
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Hey MikeOD, you have 500 hp at the wheels so the 3.45's should be okay for you, but guys closer to stock will appreciate the shorter gears. If you end up getting 4.10/4.11 with those 500 horses you won't be able to touch the gas without losing traction lol
No way man...my car needs 4.10/4.11 bad. A car with this much power should absolutely be going through the traps well into 4th gear...not shifting 15 feet before them. Learning how to control the traction is all part of the game...and besides, burnouts are fun
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:45 PM   #43
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OP Just curious, what is your altitude, I noticed you are in West Virgina. A lot of these guys are running down at sea level and of course you have quite a bit more power the lower you go.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:57 PM   #44
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OP Just curious, what is your altitude, I noticed you are in West Virgina. A lot of these guys are running down at sea level and of course you have quite a bit more power the lower you go.
I'm at around 1100ft locally, so not too high.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:08 PM   #45
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I've been making some good progress with the tune over the past week, but now it is too hot outside to bother data logging, because IAT will be pulling timing, etc.

Now, if I stomp on it in 1st gear and I'm doing anything other than going dead straight, the car will break traction and light up the tires pretty good. I tweaked the power enrichment so that it kicks in down low at about half throttle or more, and leaned out the AFR's for the power enrichment throughout the powerband. I still keep AFR's at 13:1 or richer depending on the RPM. I'm still trying to reduce the knock sensor sensitivity so that the car doesn't pull out so much timing at 4000+ RPM. Under good conditions with 93 octane, it still only wants to run about 19 degrees of timing above 4200 RPM. I'm shooting for more like 24 degrees.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:58 PM   #46
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I think you're running too lean. I ran my car (when it was bolt-ons) closer to 12.5:1 and it took 24-26 degrees of timing to make the most power at that point...when it was ever so slightly leaner, the knock sensors would yank timing, and torque/power would drop tremendously.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:29 PM   #47
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Oh for the days of high school burnout contests where you dd piss off your dad spinning the tires off of his stock Buick. If you really want to give your face a workout try dropping by a used tire store, find the oldest tides that'll fit. Grin at will. We all paid fairly good money on a car that we all wished, and some of us did, we could call our own. Those old runners ran on compounds that by today's stadards wouldn't make it onto our spares. I have yet to see a rating in Road and track for longest or easiest spin.
Remember that you have more rubber hitting the road than you could fit under pops Buick.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:06 PM   #48
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Those old runners ran on compounds that by today's stadards wouldn't make it onto our spares.
You're right...but we don't even have spares lol.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:23 PM   #49
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Yeah, spareless!!
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:43 PM   #50
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We don't have a spare but we do have a pump full of tire killer in the trunk.

Considering i'd never pump that crap into my tires, maybe I should just remove it and lose the few extra pounds?
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:46 PM   #51
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I bought a spare kit w/ a spacer in the event of a blow out (front use only) rotation would be required if I were to get a rear flat because the limper is of smaller diameter.
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