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Old 06-01-2012, 09:19 AM   #1
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2010 1SS/RS or 2013/14 1LE?

I wanted a V8 when I got my current Camaro last year, but could not afford one, bought during year end clearance for 2011's, could not find a decent used SS deal around my area, and my last car was dying so I needed something sooner than later.

Well fast forward to now. I will be graduating in December from college and already have a job lined up (currently interning at place of employment). I am in a financially better spot than I was a year ago.

Well I am always checking out new and used Camaro's in my area via cars.com. I came across this gem: http://www.hyundaiwolfchase.com/Vehi...-TN/1530251803

It has been on the lot since August 2011 apparently. I went and looked at it yesterday in the rain so none of the salesman would bother me. Seemed to check out fine. I can tell it has been sitting on the lot a little while. I am going to look at it again today and ask to test drive. I know that price is too high.

I am hoping for some input from all you C5 members is if I should wait on a 1LE or try to get this (provided price is right). I am excited about the 1LE, but at same time wondering if it is more cost effective to just get an SS and mod it. Thanks for any input.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:22 AM   #2
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No chance I would pay 33k for a used 2010. IBM was/is one of my favorite colors on this car but I am sorry. You can get a brandnew 1SS/RS for around that @ Invoice and most dealers nowadays are willing to go below invoice.

Get a 12' or 13' for the same price or get your 1LE for a little more.

As far as SS or 1LE, for what you get suspension wise I think it is worth the additional price...After parts and installation you would be close anyways.....

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Old 06-01-2012, 09:26 AM   #3
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No chance I would pay 33k for a used 2010. IBM was/is one of my favorite colors on this car but I am sorry. You can get a brandnew 1SS/RS for around that @ Invoice and most dealers nowadays are willing to go below invoice.

Get a 12' or 13' for the same price or get your 1LE for a little more.

As far as SS or 1LE, for what you get suspension wise I think it is worth the additional price...After parts and installation you would be close anyways.....

Just my .02
Yea I too know that price is way TOO high. I love IBM and it looks amazing in person. When I go to talk to them today I am going to tell them that I can get a brand new one for that price or even lower and see how low I can talk them down. I figure since it has been on the lot almost a year they've lost almost all value in it.

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NP..I would not go anymore then 28.5k OTD....You are almost better off just getting new and if you dont plan on voiding the warranty you will have a full one in tact.

33k on a 10' is outrageous..That is not taking into consideration ANY depreciation or the fact that the warranty is 2/3s gone.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:58 AM   #5
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NP..I would not go anymore then 28.5k OTD....You are almost better off just getting new and if you dont plan on voiding the warranty you will have a full one in tact.

33k on a 10' is outrageous..That is not taking into consideration ANY depreciation or the fact that the warranty is 2/3s gone.
I was thinking along that price so glad to hear I am not crazy, lol. I will void the warranty just as I have on my current Camaro so not worried about that. If I get a SS the first mod I want is a supercharger.

Yea I think that price is part of the reason why it has sat so long. If they don't wanna make a deal then I'll leave and go to talk to my Chevy dealer to see what they can find for me since they don't have any SS coupes currently.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:00 AM   #6
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If you have the means, get exactly what you want. Don't settle for any unknowns with a used car. Chevy's learned a lot with the Camaro the last 3 years, and I think it will be evident in the '13 models and 1LE package. It's the one reason I would consider upgrading soon. I think I'll wait and see what the last year of this model will have, and what the 6th Gen will be like before my next purchase.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:13 AM   #7
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If you have the means, get exactly what you want. Don't settle for any unknowns with a used car. Chevy's learned a lot with the Camaro the last 3 years, and I think it will be evident in the '13 models and 1LE package. It's the one reason I would consider upgrading soon. I think I'll wait and see what the last year of this model will have, and what the 6th Gen will be like before my next purchase.
True that is what I am trying not to do (settle like I had to with my current camaro). I basically want a 1SS/RS LS3 or 1LE/1SS/RS. I've considered a new 2013-? 2SS for only one reason, the new Mojave interior. Otherwise I am not a fan of leather. I prefer cloth seats. I need to see it out in the wild or hear people's opinions on it before hand same with the 1LE.
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Price is too high for that price you could get a new 2012 as I paid close to that for my 2012 45th.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:11 AM   #9
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Price is too high for that price you could get a new 2012 as I paid close to that for my 2012 45th.
As said above we all agree on that.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:13 AM   #10
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I would not pay a hair over 28k for it.
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Or if the frills of the newer 12 and 13 don't impress you much, go scout a few lots for great deals on new 2011's that they need to get rid of and will cut you a much better price on and possibly get 0% financing. You may even find the same color if it was the last year, can't remember.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:57 AM   #12
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I would not pay a hair over 28k for it.
That's the number I have in my head for OTD.

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Or if the frills of the newer 12 and 13 don't impress you much, go scout a few lots for great deals on new 2011's that they need to get rid of and will cut you a much better price on and possibly get 0% financing. You may even find the same color if it was the last year, can't remember.
I don't like the new steering wheel at all nor do I like the faux material on the dashes now. The new rearview rimless mirror and the touchscreen have my interest that are going to be in the 2013's - ?, but I also really like the current headunit in my 2011. There are 0 new 2011's within a 100 mile radius of me that I am interested in. (2LT's or verts) So no luck there. When I search within 100,000 miles of me for a 2011 LS3 coupe they are either way high (50k) or not a color I like (Rally Yellow and Black). So I am looking in the used market now. Hopefully I'll find something or just wait on the 1LE.
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Think that comes down to a choice of what you can afford when the 1LE's drop. If you know that you can roll with a 1LE and that's what you really want I'd wait for sure. Better to buy the actual right Camaro that you want than to settle and buy the right now Camaro.
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I wanted a V8 when I got my current Camaro last year, but could not afford one, bought during year end clearance for 2011's, could not find a decent used SS deal around my area, and my last car was dying so I needed something sooner than later.

Well fast forward to now. I will be graduating in December from college and already have a job lined up (currently interning at place of employment). I am in a financially better spot than I was a year ago.

Well I am always checking out new and used Camaro's in my area via cars.com. I came across this gem: http://www.hyundaiwolfchase.com/Vehi...-TN/1530251803

It has been on the lot since August 2011 apparently. I went and looked at it yesterday in the rain so none of the salesman would bother me. Seemed to check out fine. I can tell it has been sitting on the lot a little while. I am going to look at it again today and ask to test drive. I know that price is too high.

I am hoping for some input from all you C5 members is if I should wait on a 1LE or try to get this (provided price is right). I am excited about the 1LE, but at same time wondering if it is more cost effective to just get an SS and mod it. Thanks for any input.
The new 2012 1LE is going to be mind blowing! Its features and benefits are endless.

The Camaro1LE features an exclusive Tremec TR6060-MM6. Paired with a numerically higher 3.91 final drive ratio, the close-ratio gearing of the transmission is tuned for road-racing performance. As with the ZL1, the 1LE transmission features a standard air-to-liquid cooling system for track use. The 1LE also features exclusive, monotube rear dampers instead of the twin-tube dampers on SS models. The new hardware allowed engineers to tune the 1LE suspension to focus on optimal body-motion control while preserving much of the ride quality and wheel-motion control of the Camaro SS.

New for 2013, the electric power steering system developed for the ZL1 will be standard on all 2013 SS models. The variable ratio, variable effort system provides light efforts for easy maneuverability at parking-lot speeds as well as increased resistance at higher speeds. This provides more feedback, and a more direct steering feel, to the driver.

Also new for 2013 is an available dual-mode exhaust system, available on Camaro SS models with the LS3 V8 engine and six-speed manual transmissions. Similar to the systems found on the ZL1 and Corvette models, this vacuum-actuated system provides a quieter driving experience at low engine speeds and a more aggressive sound at high engine speeds.

Don't forget! Chevrolet’s color touch radio with MyLink infotainment is available on all 2013 Camaro LT, SS and ZL1 models. The color touch radio, with a 7-inch touch screen, also can be paired with an available in-dash GPS navigation system – a first for the Camaro. The color touch radio with MyLink gives customers a higher level of in-vehicle wireless connectivity and customized infotainment options, while building on the safety and security of OnStar. It seamlessly integrates online services such as Pandora® internet radio and Stitcher SmartRadio® using hands-free voice and touch-screen controls via Bluetooth-enabled phones. MyLink adds stereo audio streaming and wireless control of smartphones, building on the voice activated Bluetooth hands-free calling capability already offered in most Chevy vehicles. The high-resolution, full-color touch screen display makes media selection easy to navigate.

MyLink also retains all the capabilities of today’s entertainment functions, including AM/FM/Sirius XM tuners, auxiliary and USB inputs.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

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Actually, it will be a 2013. Sorry Brandon, just wanted to make sure all facts were straight. And yes, it will be awesome!!! When can we expect to see pricing already!?!?!?
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It will come down to two questions. 1) How much do you want to spend? 2) what are you going to use the car for? Buying a 1LE would be cheaper than buying a 1SS and trying to duplicate a 1LE. The 1LE option isn't going to be cheap, but it will be cheaper than buying all of those parts and installing them on a 1SS. I would think that there will be a slight bump in the price for a 2013 Camaro. I would think that a 2013 1SS/RS would have a sticker price of just under $37,000. a 1LE/RS will probably have a sticker price of around $42,000. You should be able to buy either one of those cars for less than sticker price, but there will still be the difference in price between the two cars. Based on what you've said in this thread, I would think that you would be happiest with a 1SS/RS with a supercharger on it. I would think that you could have that car for about the same price as a 1LE.
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They're asking too much. I would wait until you have settled into your new job. Get a few pay checks in the bank. The finance companies will want to see some pay stubs anyway. Plus a better down payment will help you get a better interest rate.

Then order you SS in the color you want with the options you want. Like the famous burger add. Have it your way.
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Actually, it will be a 2013. Sorry Brandon, just wanted to make sure all facts were straight. And yes, it will be awesome!!! When can we expect to see pricing already!?!?!?

And he's gone again after giving no useful info...LOL

I would wait if you can afford it. As for trading up if you had an SS, maybe not. But you are trading up and can afford it, might as well get the best you can for the money. The 1LE will most likely retain its value better than the older car also.

For my money, new 1LE! no question
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Shop around! My 2011 2SS/RS with 6k miles was 32k.
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They're asking too much. I would wait until you have settled into your new job. Get a few pay checks in the bank. The finance companies will want to see some pay stubs anyway. Plus a better down payment will help you get a better interest rate.

Then order you SS in the color you want with the options you want. Like the famous burger add. Have it your way.
This is good advice. Will OP be living at home, by himself, with roommates? Paying down student loans? Priced out auto insurance yet? There's going to be a BIG difference in price between a 2010 SS, which could be had at the end of the summer for $26-28K or less and a 2013 1LE, which will get close to $45-50K OTD. Don't make the financial mistakes a lot of new grads make when they get their first paycheck, thinking the money is limitless. It's stunning how fast life's expenses eat it all up...
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As previously mentioned, and as you alreayd know, that's way too high. I would look for a 2SS/RS with 20k miles around the 27-28k range. And, as also mentioned, it depends on what you want, and how much you want to spend.

For me, a 2SS/RS for 28k was a great deal -- but I was being impatient. If I had known better, I would have spent a similar amount for a 2011+ (what with the HUD and the back up sensors/camera). However, I'm with you -- I hate the new steering wheels. The steering wheel on the 2010/2011's (I think 2011 was still the same) looks much better, and I can't imagine using the new 2012 steering wheels (though it may be more comfortable, I'm willing to compromise).

So, personally, I would say look for a 2011. I know that Carmax is notorious for 'high prices,' but the benefit of them shipping vehicles from way outside your driving range is a plus. Additionally, if you don't plan on taking the 1LE to a track, then I (again, 'PERSONALLY') wouldn't wait for it. The LS3 is plenty badass by itself
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Just wanted to update everyone on this.

I didn't get the car nor did I want it after looking at it. Paint had A LOT of swirls, driver's side had a bunch of scratches, interior was meh, and after sitting in it and what not I realized I'd have to do a lot of work to get it where I'd want it. So I have decided to wait on either the 1LE or a new SS next year.

I'll want one in CRT, M6 (still hate I have an A6 right now), and RS. Rest is whatever. I hope I can put on a 2010-2011 steering wheel on it. I really dislike the new wheels.

Also thanks guys!
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