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Old 12-19-2007, 05:25 AM   #1
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Importing the Camaro to Europe

I'm sure the details will vary from country to country, but I think it might be worthwhile to discuss what is necessary to import the Camaro into Europe from the US.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:29 AM   #2
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For me it's really simple. I've comfirmed that a reputable car dealship will import it trough Chevrolet Norden, so that will be how I'm getting it. Only dfferenc from regular car buying will be that it will probably take a bit longer to get my car if I order one.
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:43 AM   #3
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To get it over here, the lights will need sorting (either changing or aligning), if it has HIDs then light-washers have to be fitted, side repeaters will need to exist - running lights to be disabled, a fog light has to be fitted and it has to pass an SVA (Special Vehicle thingy)... but hopefully the cost is outweighed by the savings incurred from buying abroad - likely half the cost initially!
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:21 PM   #4
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well, the challenger surely will come to europe!

hopefully the camaro too

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Old 05-18-2008, 03:01 PM   #5
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Boy, talking about being fixxed with the 5th Gen forum, didn't even see there was a European thread :|

First of all, the new Camaro WILL be available to Europe, without us needing to import it from the US. Now, I don't know WHEN that will be (could be in 2010 since it 's a 2010 model). It could also be priced a lot higher compared to the US price (and that will prolly not be due to taxes only).

Talking about importing it on our own, I 've being asking questions and the major problem is getting the car a CE Marking, which is to say that the car has being testing and has passed everything, from safety tests, emition checks etc etc.

This may require some paperwork to be available along with the car, and I 'm guessing they are not talking about the user manual but maybe electricity drawnings amongst other things. I 'm hopping to check upon this with the appropriate authorities this week.

The good thing is that, if the car is accepted to be driven in the European Union, then you can drive it in any country that belongs to the EU.

The car will cost a lot cheaper (almost half it 's price) if bought in the US, and even with the necessary customs tax, it will still be cheap enough (by European standards) to get.

I 'm so hoping we can get it like that.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:12 PM   #6
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It is my understanding they will be exported to Europe - sounds like GM will take the effort out of it for you
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:26 AM   #7
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Main-land Europe is lucky to be LHD!
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:45 AM   #8
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Main-land Europe is lucky to be LHD!

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Old 08-21-2008, 05:05 AM   #9
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I don't think they will import it: there's no market for this kinda ca rin europe (you guyes seeing a lot of mustangs?).

this is good news, the car will be cheaper.

My bro imported a 1990 corvette in france (the car was never imported by GM). The thing is quite easy: I don't have the details right now and may change with coutrnies but few hints:
make the car be bought be an american friend who resells it to you: taxes are lower on used cars.
when shipped, ask the shipper to let the car out a few weeks to make it dirty, remove some parts (make the bumper or visible things like that be shipped separately): you'll be able to declare a lower value without to many problems. If the taxman sees a wasted car, he won't look farther.
Fill the papers and bring the car home. If the car has an US licence plate, you have something like 3 month to change it. It means 3 month of wild speed with no risk for your driving license ... héhé ...
Then you will have to make the car be authorized: you just have to go to local authorities and make few changes: turning signals and so on ... give a little tip to the guy and you're car will pass first with not such a thorough review (I have an old car I homologated without even presenting the car ....).
Then you get the paper, and put everything back (common, getting a fine for your turning signals is worth the look).

Then ... enjoy! The full process form US to authorization should'nt cost much more than 5,000EUR I guess
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:59 PM   #10
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^Actually I've easily seen at least ten seperate Mustangs in my town this summer. Not counting the American Car show.
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:18 PM   #11
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well, the challenger surely will come to europe!

hopefully the camaro too

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Old 08-22-2008, 10:44 AM   #12
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^Actually I've easily seen at least ten seperate Mustangs in my town this summer. Not counting the American Car show.
Saw 2 ones in paris within the last 2 years .. not much ... I mean, I don't think Chevy dealers will display camaros.

Actually I hope they won't. Officially imported cars would be sooooo expensive compared to the one you import yourself
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:37 PM   #13
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...how come? I mean... if you import it your own you have all the charges for transfers and mods... chevy imports cars anyway to the dealers, so no metter, and if they decide to import they arrive already "ready to go"... and here i quote Emher.. in Milan is pretty common to find mustangs, so is for Austria (one guest arrived 2 mins ago with a red/white stripes GT... still in front of my window) and Germany aswell... spotted quiete honest number of them while driving the highway. Holland aswell hase a large number of American cars lovers... Dodge Ram, Ford vans and also Chevy (this way i got the chance to hear first time live a v8)...

It is not necessary they have them "ready for deliver"... it's enough they do it official way and to the big dealers... i mean, if Chevy dealer in Germany or Austria can order them it's already done to just deliver them to other places... the big step is to cross the ocean and fix them for the law.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:50 PM   #14
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...how come? I mean... if you import it your own you have all the charges for transfers and mods... chevy imports cars anyway to the dealers, so no metter, and if they decide to import they arrive already "ready to go"... and here i quote Emher.. in Milan is pretty common to find mustangs, so is for Austria (one guest arrived 2 mins ago with a red/white stripes GT... still in front of my window) and Germany aswell... spotted quiete honest number of them while driving the highway. Holland aswell hase a large number of American cars lovers... Dodge Ram, Ford vans and also Chevy (this way i got the chance to hear first time live a v8)...

It is not necessary they have them "ready for deliver"... it's enough they do it official way and to the big dealers... i mean, if Chevy dealer in Germany or Austria can order them it's already done to just deliver them to other places... the big step is to cross the ocean and fix them for the law.
No wonder they'll forget the euro/dollar advantage in their pricings ...

I mean, when I look at "officialy" imported mustangs (i mean by special dealers)a 30k USD car is charged 50k EUR ... knowing 30k USD should be around 22K EUR ... they charge more than twice the price!!!

I can definitely make a better deal by importing it on my own
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:58 AM   #15
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Hey guys!
I've just been in contact with some dutch "US car importers" to see if I can get a new Camaro early in holland.
Unfortunately we have a so called "slurp tax", which is an extra tax on cars that consume more than standard. The Camaro is one of these...

Most importers think that the car will cost me about 85.000 till 95.000 euros for the 2ss model!!!
Yeah, that's about 120.000 dollars........
Taxes are really crazy over here.
So I'll probably wait untill you can get it at the local gm dealers and just hope the prices are a bit better.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:42 AM   #16
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^It will NOT be that expensive. That's like Corvette Z06 territory! I panicked a while back since the only dealers that have thrown up ads for the camaro put it at 560K Swedish Crownes (roughly converted 58K Euro), and that's just crazy since its competition for the Mustang which is import in Eruope and the Mustang is priced at about 350K Swedish crownes (about 37K Euro). And as said that's an import.

Don't worry, the pricing will a lot less then that, expect closer to the Mustangs pricing.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:05 AM   #17
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Maybe it will be a bit cheaper.
But in sweden you don't have that "slurp tax". That tax is around 18.000 euros more and all new cars build after feb. 2008 will have that tax (higher or lower depending on fuel economy).

A mustang gt500 build before feb. 2008 is gonna cost me 60.000 euros in the netherlands (after import prices, vat, warranty, etc). That's without the extra tax. If it's build after feb. 2008 it's gonna be around 80.000
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:04 AM   #18
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Today it says the us dealerships are taking orders. Someone should call random chevy dealer, and ask to buy it in us by a "friend" and ask if car could be EU spec, probably not, but when?
Pricing from 22k us, thats like peanuts over here in europe. I'v been lurking for any eu info and some say only v8 6l will be available - that means 60k eu minimum. In croatia, iv done some importing in past but not from us, duty taxes and all other state ripoffs amount to max 35-40% of price in us. So if 25k us (lt i quess) is 18 500 eur and you pay 45% (8 350 euro) for duties it comes to 26 800 - and lets count for 3500 to pay for shipping and insurance of container (very important) and registration - 30k euro for this piece of beauty, and a compromise of v6 with leather - (lt model) its a great small guzzler hey its a crisis we all have to make compromises

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Old 10-20-2008, 12:21 PM   #19
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So, has anyone asked someone who can say if the car can be EU speced?
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:09 AM   #20
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The best and most cost-efficient way to get the Camaro (2SS/Rs of course...) in Europe WITHOUT paying all those taxes like:
- BTW:import tax (19% of vehicle + shipping and insurace cost)
- BPM: motorvehicle tax (42% of net vehicle costs)
- "slup tax" (fuell consumption tax... typically dutch)

This is by moving to the US for a while, buy the Camaro, get the vehicle registration on your name for at least 1 year, then (or a bit later if you like where you live...) move back to Europe and the car can and will be seen as "private property" together with the bike, tv, furniture and whatever you decide to bring to Europe.... without paying tax!

Just the slurp tax still needs to be paid to get a licence in holland.... ****in' tree huggers!
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:55 AM   #21
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Buying from a European GM dealer is out of the question if they stick to their usual policy, which means in the end we pay almost twice the US MSRP. Suppose we help ourselves and buy our LS2RS in Canada. Roughly: Car = 35000 CAD$ (22.200 EUR), shipping = 1.000 EUR, taxes (23.000 x 1,10 import) x 1,15 TAV = 29.000 EUR. Could be 10.000 EUR cheaper than buying from GM Europe. In Belgium the taxman is a lesser thief than in the Netherlands. We pay only 5.000 EUR additional registration tax and of course a yearly 1.400 EUR road tax. A bargain.

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Agree with you dude. Actually - depends on the country - you can go even lower than that: ask a friend to buy the car and resell it to you. Now the tax is lower coz' it's used and not new.
Then ask him to leave the car outside for a few weeks, and remove some parts (like bumper or something) and put it in the car or send it separately. Then you can declare a decreased value.

I don't really remember the tax rate, but you can declare a brand new SS for something like 10 or 15k lower if you make it look like a crapy car. Remember customs people won't probably know that car.
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Old 03-29-2009, 04:25 PM   #23
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Another solution may be to use only a company specializing in the import of vehicle. They deal only import. After it has to be approved by the EU regulation adaptation.

http://www.americaronline.com/fr/cal...portation.html

For example, a 2LT RS, 30 000$ in USA --> 38 890€ to France.

After add 4 000€ for the EU regulation adaptation.

The price start to be interesting.
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:26 PM   #24
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some news from switzerland

hi folks
this afternoon i spoke with a serous -dealer here in berne/switzerland... he had gm-news! first of all.. the camaros will be official imported from gm-europe and will come to at least germany an switzerland in 2010! they speak from both, the sixer and the v-8!
conserning the prices they speak in the moment from max. 50'000 euros for a fully loaded ss/rs.. little bit much i think
a other thing he told me, d'ont know i can believe... because the gm-disaster in us the lead of gm-europe is thinking about to make a overtake... means all gm-group would be under control of europe.... may be or not...
for me personally i probably will make detail-calculations between a official-buy and self-import... think there could be about 8keuros less if i'd make the adventure... hmmmm
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Good news!

But for the price, it's a few like with this french dealer :
http://www.teamfj.com/news/motors/Ch...amaro_0209.pdf

Sorry it"s french

For each version, add the price for regulation adaptation : 3 900€
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