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Old 07-15-2012, 11:07 PM   #26
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Richmond doesnt make bad gears, but usually requiring more shiming to get them exact and are more prone to gear whine. I have always used Ford Racing gears in my cars with good results
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are you guys completely avoiding the water box?
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:06 PM   #28
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We try to right now, but I think my right tires are hitting it. I plan on trying to do an awesome 1 wheel burnout when I go to the track next time and see if that helps.
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Since this got bumped, I'll give an update. We haven't been racing since its been over 100 out here. Might go next weekend since I ordered her a bama tune. See how much the bama tune knocks off her ET.
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Didn't go last night because of the threat of rain. We did get the tune in and I loaded the 91 Race Tune. Wife said there wasn't much of a difference, and when I did a WOT on it the 1-2 shift was over 2 seconds. Read on the internet that you have to disconnect the battery to reset computer values to get rid of that. Going to test it today and hopefully its fixed now.

Real reason I posted though, forgot I had taken this picture last time we were at the track. This was just after we got there and were waiting for tech inspections.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:25 PM   #32
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My wife and I finally took our cars to the drag strip and raced them head to head. We both had a full tank of gas and tire pressures were high (40 psi on mine). It was our first time ever racing, so we went to have fun and see if we like it. We loved it, talking about going again real soon. No videos or pictures, hopefully next time we can get some.

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I know I need to remove my subwoofer box and spare tire. Also, lower our rear air pressure.

Any suggestions? Also Mustang guys, anything I can do to my wife's car to help her out? Think the gear ratio is really hurting hers.

Here are our time slips, left to right is the order we ran, I was always the right lane. The DA was 3743. On the 4th run, the track guys said I need to stop beating on her. Then the 5th they said I should give her a head start or else I wouldn't be getting any tonight.
There are several things you can do for both cars, how much do you have to spend? First, the obvious choice is a supercharger for each. Gears (3.73 or 4.10) for the Mustang would be good to help her launch but doesn't do anything power wise. Headers and a dynotune would certainly help. 17-18" wheels with racing DRs or slicks will help her hook up. Here's a link to someone else's opinion, you might find some ideas helpful (a little dated, from 07): http://www.mustangevolution.com/must...ication-guide/

Without knowing what kind of tree the track uses it's hard to say when to go but if it's a standard one with 3 yellows then green, go on the 3rd yellow (assuming you staged with two lights showing). Avoid spinning the tires. As for the Camaro, many of the tips given in the Mustang article may apply. I wouldn't bother removing the spare or the subwoofer in the Camaro as I don't see it helping much. In all honesty, if you're looking for big HP gains, go to V8's or cheaper, superchargers/twin turbos, dynotunes and gears for the Mustang. Good luck.
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Didn't go last night because of the threat of rain. We did get the tune in and I loaded the 91 Race Tune. Wife said there wasn't much of a difference, and when I did a WOT on it the 1-2 shift was over 2 seconds. Read on the internet that you have to disconnect the battery to reset computer values to get rid of that. Going to test it today and hopefully its fixed now.

Real reason I posted though, forgot I had taken this picture last time we were at the track. This was just after we got there and were waiting for tech inspections.
Good thing you didn't go tonight!
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:56 PM   #34
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TOTALLY awesome guys.

I have been wanting to line up next to Bonnie in her Vette.
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There are several things you can do for both cars, how much do you have to spend? First, the obvious choice is a supercharger for each. Gears (3.73 or 4.10) for the Mustang would be good to help her launch but doesn't do anything power wise. Headers and a dynotune would certainly help. 17-18" wheels with racing DRs or slicks will help her hook up. Here's a link to someone else's opinion, you might find some ideas helpful (a little dated, from 07): http://www.mustangevolution.com/must...ication-guide/

Without knowing what kind of tree the track uses it's hard to say when to go but if it's a standard one with 3 yellows then green, go on the 3rd yellow (assuming you staged with two lights showing). Avoid spinning the tires. As for the Camaro, many of the tips given in the Mustang article may apply. I wouldn't bother removing the spare or the subwoofer in the Camaro as I don't see it helping much. In all honesty, if you're looking for big HP gains, go to V8's or cheaper, superchargers/twin turbos, dynotunes and gears for the Mustang. Good luck.
Thanks for the link, had alot of info about upgrades.

3.73's and a posi are the next upgrades on the list. After that we will have to decide. Still need to see what the tune did for her times though.

We try to leave on the 3rd light, but sometimes I have to catch my old man nap. Heard that the track prep isn't the greatest at Thunder Valley. We may take a trip out to the Tulsa track to see what we can do there one time.

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Good thing you didn't go tonight!
Yeah, but we needed rain very badly. I had given up on trying to keep my grass green. Can't wait till November when the temps are really down.

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TOTALLY awesome guys.

I have been wanting to line up next to Bonnie in her Vette.
You should do it, my wife loves it. Track guys will warn you about beating her all the time though, happy wife / happy life kind of thing. Would be one hell of a race though, but I would pull for the Corvette, its an awesome looking car.
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Awesome. My wife has a 2012 5.0 with a bunch of mods but I can't get her to race it.
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This is cool! My boyfriend and I have raced my RS against his SS at Tulsa Dragway. May take them to Thunder Valley this fall. Right now we are looking at doing Hallett (I may do this for him for his birthday). At least there it won't be such a spanking, haha. I'm not match for is SS even though I kill him on reaction time. It's a lot of fun no matter who wins!

And I've raced and spanked several brand new V6 Mustangs at the track, too. I probably enjoy it more than I should
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We went to the track last night and it was not a good night. Our first run we could only go one at a time and the computer didn't print off our slips. But we did get 3 full runs in, but the last one took forever since cars kept breaking on the track. The DA for our first 2 runs was 3584 and the last one was 3208. Don't know what was up, but both of our times were off. The Mustang now has a Bama tune with 91 race loaded. Wife said it shifted harder this time racing, but on the 2nd run the over rev light came on and she backed off the throttle when it was shifting into 3rd. We will see what happens in a month, hopefully the weather will be better.

Did get some videos this time though. This is the first 2 runs as seen in my Camaro. My car was so fast on the 2nd run it entered warp speed (don't know why the camera went out of focus).



This is my wife's run. I told her not to do the whole rev'ing thing right before green.



One day I am going to get a GoPro camera and also have some one in the stands record us racing together.
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We went to the track last night and it was not a good night. Our first run we could only go one at a time and the computer didn't print off our slips. But we did get 3 full runs in, but the last one took forever since cars kept breaking on the track. The DA for our first 2 runs was 3584 and the last one was 3208. Don't know what was up, but both of our times were off. The Mustang now has a Bama tune with 91 race loaded. Wife said it shifted harder this time racing, but on the 2nd run the over rev light came on and she backed off the throttle when it was shifting into 3rd. We will see what happens in a month, hopefully the weather will be better.

Did get some videos this time though. This is the first 2 runs as seen in my Camaro. My car was so fast on the 2nd run it entered warp speed (don't know why the camera went out of focus).



This is my wife's run. I told her not to do the whole rev'ing thing right before green.



One day I am going to get a GoPro camera and also have some one in the stands record us racing together.
My brother ran a 15.138 @ 94.1 mph(he just learned stick and bought it last week; first time at the track too), it's a bone stock 2005 Honda Accord coupe V6 6-speed. Your cars still have faster times in them.
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My brother ran a 15.138 @ 94.1 mph(he just learned stick and bought it last week; first time at the track too), it's a bone stock 2005 Honda Accord coupe V6 6-speed. Your cars still have faster times in them.
Pretty good time, what time of the night was he running? Think maybe we were off our game yesterday. We will try again though, its a fun time. I also want to get my wife into the 14's before the year is out, then over the winter look into doing 3.73 gears.
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Pretty good time, what time of the night was he running? Think maybe we were off our game yesterday. We will try again though, its a fun time. I also want to get my wife into the 14's before the year is out, then over the winter look into doing 3.73 gears.
Ok i remembered the wrong trap. To the left was a blue modified 2010 mustang gt.

Weeks go by faster then i thought, it was august 12, he bought it august 5. DA was awful that night....
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Pretty good time, what time of the night was he running? Think maybe we were off our game yesterday. We will try again though, its a fun time. I also want to get my wife into the 14's before the year is out, then over the winter look into doing 3.73 gears.

3.73's should help a lot! Your mustang would be solid 14 second car in San Antonio and run some 14's even in Tulsa, much better prep and DA there.
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I can't believe you guys are trying to race out there right now with this heat. I tried it once this summer and it was not good. It was a pro street night and very crowded. Had to waint in the stagging lanes for 15-20min in 100* heat. Needless to say my car did not like it. I also couldn't get better than a 1.9 60ft which was pretty bad. I only got 4 runs in because they closed the track due to a spill. I don't think that track is a very good one. There is also really no way to get around the water box when I went. I try to avoid the water box and then back up into it. If you go through the water box your just tracking water up to the starting line and then your rear tires have to drive through it. Most good tracks that I see have a wide clear path around the water box. This is probably why your wife is having so much trouble. Even on stock tires her 2.73 geared car should have no problem hooking up and getting a 2.0 60ft. She needs to do a very slight burn out to just get the water off the tires. I bet she is having trouble becuase her tires are still wet.
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I can't believe you guys are trying to race out there right now with this heat. I tried it once this summer and it was not good. It was a pro street night and very crowded. Had to waint in the stagging lanes for 15-20min in 100* heat. Needless to say my car did not like it. I also couldn't get better than a 1.9 60ft which was pretty bad. I only got 4 runs in because they closed the track due to a spill. I don't think that track is a very good one. There is also really no way to get around the water box when I went. I try to avoid the water box and then back up into it. If you go through the water box your just tracking water up to the starting line and then your rear tires have to drive through it. Most good tracks that I see have a wide clear path around the water box. This is probably why your wife is having so much trouble. Even on stock tires her 2.73 geared car should have no problem hooking up and getting a 2.0 60ft. She needs to do a very slight burn out to just get the water off the tires. I bet she is having trouble becuase her tires are still wet.
A 1.9 60 foot is bad ?????? That's damn good!
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A 1.9 60 foot is bad ?????? That's damn good!
Its bad for me in this mid 11's capable car. On my DR I want 1.6-1.7 60fts.
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Its bad for me in this mid 11's capable car. On my DR I want 1.6-1.7 60fts.
Were you at nw 39th this most previous saturday night ?

There was a clean gray camaro turbocharged there.....
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I can't believe you guys are trying to race out there right now with this heat. I tried it once this summer and it was not good. It was a pro street night and very crowded. Had to waint in the stagging lanes for 15-20min in 100* heat. Needless to say my car did not like it. I also couldn't get better than a 1.9 60ft which was pretty bad. I only got 4 runs in because they closed the track due to a spill. I don't think that track is a very good one. There is also really no way to get around the water box when I went. I try to avoid the water box and then back up into it. If you go through the water box your just tracking water up to the starting line and then your rear tires have to drive through it. Most good tracks that I see have a wide clear path around the water box. This is probably why your wife is having so much trouble. Even on stock tires her 2.73 geared car should have no problem hooking up and getting a 2.0 60ft. She needs to do a very slight burn out to just get the water off the tires. I bet she is having trouble becuase her tires are still wet.
Its fun racing each other in the same conditions. I am working alot on my reaction time since it still feels weird leaving on the 3rd light. November we should put some good times down and hopefully some more Camaro's will be out there since I'm outnumbered by mustangs pretty heavily there.
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Its fun racing each other in the same conditions. I am working alot on my reaction time since it still feels weird leaving on the 3rd light. November we should put some good times down and hopefully some more Camaro's will be out there since I'm outnumbered by mustangs pretty heavily there.
Meant to tell you... Tell your wife to keep the hammer down when the over rev light comes on. It's supposed to do that, it means it's working. Bama sets the 1-2 gear shift at 7100rpm I believe...

If you can swing it, get her a set of LCA's. A good solid set can be had for $99.00. And Both of you need to get those 60' times down. Don't worry about your reaction times unless you guys are heads-up racing.
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I'm also wondering about my tires, 21k miles on my original all-season tires probably isn't helping. When we move into a bigger house, we may get some drag only tires that we can change out when we go to the track.
Getting a set of drag tires and rims for the would be my suggestion.
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Meant to tell you... Tell your wife to keep the hammer down when the over rev light comes on. It's supposed to do that, it means it's working. Bama sets the 1-2 gear shift at 7100rpm I believe...

If you can swing it, get her a set of LCA's. A good solid set can be had for $99.00. And Both of you need to get those 60' times down. Don't worry about your reaction times unless you guys are heads-up racing.
Told her about the over-rev and I also got a new tune from Bama for the slow shifting. Seems to work a little better for shifting, no lag. Also looking at LCA's when I get the 3.73 gears.

Also I am working on my reaction time because I know that when she gets 3.73 gears I will need to get as much advantage off the line I can or I will see her tail lights. Then when that happens I will be posting in the general discussion forums a topic called "How do I beat my wife".

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Getting a set of drag tires and rims for the would be my suggestion.
That is the plan for next year. She keeps her pony package rims which she loves, we use drag racing rims/tires for drag racing only. What kind of size should I look for? She is running 235/50 R18's and I am running 245/50 R19's.
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