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Old 06-23-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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What my dealer told me about the 6th gens coming out.

He told me he couldn't tell me exactly what it looked like but that it would appeal more to the "younger generation". The dealer was Superior Chevrolet in Shawnee Mission, KS. It is top 10 in corvettes and they had 7 zl1's sold as well as selling a lot of Callaway's and Hendrick Performance camaro's. He also said some of the models will be a v8 that produces 385 horsepower, and then a twin turbo v6 that will produce 600 horsepower and will be in the low $70,000 range. Thought it was pretty cool so thought I'd share. I don't know if any of this is true, it is just what I was told.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:05 AM   #2
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He doesn't know anything, that is all speculation.
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Why would they lower the v8's horsepower but raise the v6's horsepower...?
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:09 AM   #4
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My exact thought. Plus no one knows anything. Everything is just speculation.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:10 AM   #5
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Why would they lower the v8's horsepower but raise the v6's horsepower...?


They wont be able to sell any Camaros at 70grand either
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:14 AM   #6
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Sometimes I wonder if dealers say this crazy shit just to see how fast it makes it on a forum.
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I would love to see the thousands of threads about trading down to the V6 for more power.
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He doesn't know anything, that is all speculation.
Agreed!
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He told me he couldn't tell me exactly what it looked like but that it would appeal more to the "younger generation". The dealer was Superior Chevrolet in Shawnee Mission, KS. It is top 10 in corvettes and they had 7 zl1's sold as well as selling a lot of Callaway's and Hendrick Performance camaro's. He also said some of the models will be a v8 that produces 385 horsepower, and then a twin turbo v6 that will produce 600 horsepower and will be in the low $70,000 range. Thought it was pretty cool so thought I'd share. I don't know if any of this is true, it is just what I was told.
A V8 with 41 LESS HP than the current SS and a 600 HP TT V6 for roughly 10 grand MORE than a ZL1???????





If ANY of this is true, I bet it also has 4WD and gets an EPA estimated 50 MPUF...(Miles Per Unicorn Fart)
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:42 AM   #10
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Isn't it obvious the OP mixed up the v6 & v8

I read it as the 6 gets 385 and the 8 gets 600, as the other way around is an obvious mistake.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:46 AM   #11
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I heard it was going to look more like the smart car who made love with the prius.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:49 AM   #12
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Isn't it obvious the OP mixed up the v6 & v8

I read it as the 6 gets 385 and the 8 gets 600, as the other way around is an obvious mistake.
So Twin turbos get the V6 from 323hp to 385hp or they get the V8 from 426 to 600? Either doesn't really sound correct.

Don't think it was reversed, just dumb dealer B.S.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:58 AM   #13
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:00 AM   #14
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He likely thinks this is the new camaro
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:42 AM   #15
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He likely thinks this is the new camaro
You mean the 6th gen won't look like that.....


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Old 06-23-2012, 05:20 AM   #16
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The sales team at the dealership are usually the last to know anything. They have no inside connections. He is full of it.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:52 AM   #17
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sound like more of the same crap that was going on before the release of the 5th gen.
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Im not sure if the OP is lying or the Dealer jus sayn.....
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The salesman that started this rumor is reading this thread and laughing is ass off.....
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:00 AM   #20
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I've read that about 2 yrs ago, that because of fuel economy, twin turbo v6 for power. If in fact they do lower the hp for the v8, it's to encorage people to buy the v6 in lieu.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:08 AM   #21
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Why would they lower the v8's horsepower but raise the v6's horsepower...?
to encourage people to get out of the mindset that you need a big gas hog to get hp. I mean, a Cobalt SS can hang with a Camaro SS (not beat, but hang)... v8= doesn't mean fast car, it just means big engine.
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to encourage people to get out of the mindset that you need a big gas hog to get hp. I mean, a Cobalt SS can hang with a Camaro SS (not beat, but hang)... v8= doesn't mean fast car, it just means big engine.
But who, anywhere, has said to themselves if they had a choice to buy a Camaro SS or a Cobalt SS "Man, I want me some Cobalt SS"? I want names. The more likely reason is that's because GM can offer a more reasonably-priced car that fits within smaller budgets yet still offers a thrill when you drive it. And if you don't keep cars long, you also should probably keep an eye on resale values in the future. Not sure what the Cobalt is compared to Camaro percentage-wise, but some people look at that as well.

And that's exactly why the gas-hog reasoning is (gas-hog)-wash. Most people want V8s because that's what they're USED to buying. Gas hog has nothing to do with it. CAFE has nearly everything to do with it. You don't buy a car such as a ZL1 because you give a crap what the gas mileage is. You buy it for performance. True today as it was then, there's no replacement for displacement, all other things being equal. But today they're not equal with the power-adders from the factory. Turbo a 6 to do the same or little better than an na V8? Why not offer a TT V8 as well at the same time and make everyone happy? Now THAT would be something.

Nothing wrong with a V6 or an I4 even. I have absolutely no issue about it if that's what people choose for their cars. And though V6 and I4 may be nice, you can keep them for your own Camaro if that flips up your skirt. If the best Camaro has to offer is V6, I'll just keep driving my old, less-powerful V8. Because I can and I want to, that's why.

Sorry...as a traditionalist, make mine a V8.
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But who, anywhere, has said to themselves if they had a choice to buy a Camaro SS or a Cobalt SS "Man, I want me some Cobalt SS"? I want names. The more likely reason is that's because GM can offer a more reasonably-priced car that fits within smaller budgets yet still offers a thrill when you drive it. And if you don't keep cars long, you also should probably keep an eye on resale values in the future. Not sure what the Cobalt is compared to Camaro percentage-wise, but some people look at that as well.

And that's exactly why the gas-hog reasoning is (gas-hog)-wash. Most people want V8s because that's what they're USED to buying. Gas hog has nothing to do with it. CAFE has nearly everything to do with it. You don't buy a car such as a ZL1 because you give a crap what the gas mileage is. You buy it for performance. True today as it was then, there's no replacement for displacement, all other things being equal. But today they're not equal with the power-adders from the factory. Turbo a 6 to do the same or little better than an na V8? Why not offer a TT V8 as well at the same time and make everyone happy? Now THAT would be something.

Nothing wrong with a V6 or an I4 even. I have absolutely no issue about it if that's what people choose for their cars. And though V6 and I4 may be nice, you can keep them for your own Camaro if that flips up your skirt. If the best Camaro has to offer is V6, I'll just keep driving my old, less-powerful V8. Because I can and I want to, that's why.

Sorry...as a traditionalist, make mine a V8.
He did say that it was going to be marketed to the younger generation. With gov regulations, oil prices, ect. ect. GM is already looking into the future as to make a performance car that will be more fuel effiecient. Hence 8 speed transmissions. You can stay in the rpm range for hp if you need it, and cruise at lower rpm when needed. No doubt, there nothing like the sound and raw power of a V8, but in the future, it's just not going to be realistic. I think the market and regulations will demand it.

Im pretty sure there are PLENTY of people who say, "Man, I want a Cobalt SS." (How do you think Vette owners see us?) Mostly the younger generation that are looking for a cheap, fast car. They are probally thinking, my V6 is almost as capable as your 6.2l v8 ls3. As a Camaro SS driver myself, i bought mine for the v8 ls3, so im with you on the traditionalist view on it.

Reality is, gas is just going to keep going up and up. Manufactures have to find a balance between performance and fuel consumption.

People do buy ZL1 for performance, but if performance is what you want, get a ZR1. People get a ZL1 because its a cheaper than the "real thing", but just a capable. Same goes for Cobal SS owners.
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Psshh camaros at 70 grand...
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