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Old 05-18-2009, 03:33 PM   #1
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Delusional Dealers

Spent yesterday visiting 3 dealers that had Camaros on the lot. Went to Gateway in Avalon and they only had the owners 2SS sitting there. The sales guy said the owner told him that if someone offered 45k then he would sell it.

Thoroughbred Chevrolet in Chandler was the only voice of reason. Offered to take orders for $1,000 deposit at MSRP. Keeping the LT2/RS so that customers can see the car. No games at all.

Chapman in Tempe. 1LT/RS with tons of dealer add ons. $999 yes $999 for adding nitrogen to tires instead of air. $695 for a desert protection package although no one could really explain what that meant. And then 5k market value adjustment. Overall they are asking 35k.

I realize that the Camaro is a hot car right now but we all need to get real at some point. When MSRP is seen as a deal then something is really wrong for a car that is going to be very high volume. There is nothing limited or rare about the Camaro. Hang in there guys and hold the line at paying these ridiculous markups that add nothing to the cars value and simply put you further upside down on a depreciating asset.

To those dealers who are resisting the urge to be greedy, thanks.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:39 PM   #2
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I'm working with Wilmes Chevrolet in Altus, OK and they're ordering them for people at MSRP without money down. Their logic is, if they order it and you back out, they'll have no trouble selling it. UNLESS, you order something they consider "odd", they don't require a down payment. My dealership rocks!
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:44 PM   #3
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but the bad this is your waiting list is crazy to be such a small dealership, and without a deposit you have everyone and their mother ordering but i doubt they will finish the order.........But they are good people from what i see anyway, but how many dealers should you trust
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:49 PM   #4
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Courtesy Chevrolet in Phoenix...$500 deposit, MSRP. 12th St. and Camelback.

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Old 05-18-2009, 03:57 PM   #5
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I can see if the dealer owned car was selling for more because thats a personal buy although using your lot is tacky. I agree over MSRP is nuts and whoever is abliging the dealers by pay more should be spanked. How do you pay more for the car then whats its worth? Im getting MSRP for a 1SS, had a 1000 deposit but its refundable. to my knowledge all orders are like this at this dealer. What the dealers dont know is making a quick buck now will hurt them in the future along with GM. The next thing is if the person dont buy it they are going to have a buyer in line, price gouging is illegal i thought.

Dealer was Berger Chevy in Grand Rapids MI.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:58 PM   #6
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Well said,if money was no object and only if,I still don't think I could bring myself to hand over 5 or 10,000 dollars for just selling me a car that I don't believe will retain half of the original value,because the very same dealers will laugh in your face if you ever wanted to trade the car in the future if you even said "well I paid 10,000 over sticker when I bought it 3yrs ago"they will not even thank you for that,so just on those facts alone I will sit and wait my turn and more power to the people who got their cars whether they paid msrp or more none of my business hope they're enjoying their Camaro's
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:02 PM   #7
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Chapman in Tempe is a ripe off do buy there!!!!
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:05 PM   #8
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When I ordered mine I didn't have to put down a deposit, but that's only because my dad built a car wash for the dealership two years ago.

The dealer told me my price was $36,480 without tax and license and that is with a $2,500 mark up. He told us they are charging $5,000 over and cut it in half for me. I am still reluctant because this car is going to come out to at least $40,000 and I don't know if that is worth it.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:11 PM   #9
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$1000 for nitrogen? Don't they know that nitrogen makes up somewhere around 75% of the 'air' we breathe? Inflating with nitrogen is a normal thing when you buy tires nowadays at no extra cost.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:12 PM   #10
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absolutely no reason to pay over msrp for the car. order it from a dealer who will not charge over msrp and be happy when it arrives. long process, but those that have picked them up so far will tell you its worth it
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:35 PM   #11
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good point 5 years down the road it will be worth half MSRP and you think the dealer is going to give you more on a trade or most private buyers will give you more because your car is number 120 or something. People dont care about that stuff face it. The only time that being a low number will come in play is 35-40 years down the road it becomes a real classic but whos to know that. I mean the 69-70 camaro is worth money, but you go look at at 75-77 they aint worth jack. Whos to say that we are even runing on gas in 30 years. So for those who paid more than MSRP SHAME SHAME!!! and dude with the 40k car, u know find a dealer that will do MSRP, if your going to pay 40k you my as well get the stuff in it to make it worth 40 not an artificial price. I mean that and if you have the money, even if you put close to half down, 20000 at 5-6% for five years would be nice little payment.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:55 PM   #12
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So what do you think this car should be costing? Without tax and license.
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Spent yesterday visiting 3 dealers that had Camaros on the lot. Went to Gateway in Avalon and they only had the owners 2SS sitting there. The sales guy said the owner told him that if someone offered 45k then he would sell it.

Thoroughbred Chevrolet in Chandler was the only voice of reason. Offered to take orders for $1,000 deposit at MSRP. Keeping the LT2/RS so that customers can see the car. No games at all.

Chapman in Tempe. 1LT/RS with tons of dealer add ons. $999 yes $999 for adding nitrogen to tires instead of air. $695 for a desert protection package although no one could really explain what that meant. And then 5k market value adjustment. Overall they are asking 35k.

I realize that the Camaro is a hot car right now but we all need to get real at some point. When MSRP is seen as a deal then something is really wrong for a car that is going to be very high volume. There is nothing limited or rare about the Camaro. Hang in there guys and hold the line at paying these ridiculous markups that add nothing to the cars value and simply put you further upside down on a depreciating asset.

To those dealers who are resisting the urge to be greedy, thanks.
tell him you want the tires inflated with the helium from his ass
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:10 PM   #14
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My MSRP is $36,325 for 2SS/RS(1200 extra) Manual, Black/Black, Sunroof(900 extra) of course this before tax, tag, and title.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:14 PM   #15
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So what do you think this car should be costing? Without tax and license.
What should it cost? MSRP, that's what. If your 2SS doesn't have any other options, that's $34,225 (destination fee included). You have the right to shop around, regardless of the company having a history with your dad. Other dealers out there are willing to give you your car for 2 grand less.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:38 PM   #16
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Muffler bearings and underbody sealant fee.

The 1000 dollar document fees are the ultimate bad too.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #17
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Do they throw in a reach around with that? Some of these dealers arent doing themselves any favors. With a public that is already unhappy with the whole "bailout" thing, you would think most would be just happy to sell a car. Ultimatly it comes down to the consumer, if you dont pay it they wont ask for it.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:00 PM   #18
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Wingnut add on can be pretty expensive at $2000
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:37 PM   #19
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standard SS should be MSRP so either 30k for the 1ss or 34 of the 2SS. Anything over that should come with the mods accordingly. What you go to the store and pay 10 bucks for a gallon of milk because it was a new kind and the store decided to charge more. I mean if you think about you pay 40 for a 34k car, and say you boorrow half you will end up over the life of loan pay 10-15 dollars more than what the car was initially valued at. ALSO once you drive that car off the loan you can automatically take 10-20% depreciation off car.
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:23 PM   #20
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$1000 for nitrogen? Don't they know that nitrogen makes up somewhere around 75% of the 'air' we breathe? Inflating with nitrogen is a normal thing when you buy tires nowadays at no extra cost.
If you really REALLY NEED PURE Nitrogen THAT FREAKING BADLY, go to a welding supply shop, rent a Nitrogen bottle, get a regulator and hose that will connect to a valve stem (available at any home depot or Autozone, etc), and for less than $100, you have yourself a "Nitrogen filled" set of tires. I'd tell that dealer YOU charge $999 for them to SUCK IT

(Not directed at you, fknstn, but the OP of the Nitrogen bit, sorry)
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