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Old 07-03-2012, 08:13 AM   #1
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Whats the best mode to be in??

So i am planning on going to the track for the first time in a week or so, and lately i have been practicing my starts. It seems like everyone says to turn off everything(hold for 7 seconds). I have tried every mode a couple of times and it feel like my car is more responsive in competitive mode. The only thing i did notice is it is very easy to spin the tires to start of with in competitive mode... am i doing something wrong? or should i be in competitive mode?
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #2
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Are you racing 1/4 mile? Or is this a road course event?

In either case, for a good launch, you want to turn off traction control and stability control. The car will try to intervene and limit wheelspin, but at the demise of performance. As you practice, you will develop your skill as a driver to execute good launches--estimating how much power you can put down without spinning the wheels too much.
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I went through this to. What I do is hit the TC button once and place the shifter into “M”. I do not heat the tires I just spin them enough to clean them off. Then I stage the car. I do not pre-load the car I just use the brake to keep the car from rolling. When the last yellow comes on, I hit the gas as if I wanted to move off from a traffic light fast but not on the floor. Then when the car is rolling I put the pedal to the floor. Let the transmission shift on its own. I run 13.90’s all day long like this.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #4
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I like to start in competitive mode. I feel like it has the most throttle response and just a better overall drive.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:13 PM   #6
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I went through this to. What I do is hit the TC button once and place the shifter into “M”. I do not heat the tires I just spin them enough to clean them off. Then I stage the car. I do not pre-load the car I just use the brake to keep the car from rolling. When the last yellow comes on, I hit the gas as if I wanted to move off from a traffic light fast but not on the floor. Then when the car is rolling I put the pedal to the floor. Let the transmission shift on its own. I run 13.90’s all day long like this.

But he drives a manual
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:53 PM   #7
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But he drives a manual
Correct "Troll", Just giving him an idea of how to set up and launch.
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Shouldn't the auto be faster than 13.9 stock? The new mustang V6 runs 13.7 stock.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #9
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Shouldn't the auto be faster than 13.9 stock? The new mustang V6 runs 13.7 stock.
Yes, on a good track it will run faster, low 13s. The track that is in my area is not that great but is good for Bracket/Street racing.
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Correct "Troll", Just giving him an idea of how to set up and launch.
Defintion of TROLL from Wikipedia:
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

If your going to "Troll" you should at least understand this definition. I posted my response as an "emotional wtf" to you as your response is or was in no way helpful to the op.

You call it trolling; I call it learning. You could use less of the first and more of the latter.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:26 PM   #11
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Defintion of TROLL from Wikipedia:
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

If your going to "Troll" you should at least understand this definition. I posted my response as an "emotional wtf" to you as your response is or was in no way helpful to the op.

You call it trolling; I call it learning. You could use less of the first and more of the latter.
I call out TROLLS when I see them "TROLL"
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Yes, on a good track it will run faster, low 13s. The track that is in my area is not that great but is good for Bracket/Street racing.
Gotcha, I always forget that there are environmental conditions that greatly affect performance.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:36 PM   #13
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Gotcha, I always forget that there are environmental conditions that greatly affect performance.
The stock mustangs in my area are running mid to high 14s.....lol
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My apologies to the op. He is asking for an emotional response which again is a desperate plea only fit for "The Troll".


I am subscribed because I also drive a ls3. His reason?.........Douchechivalry I suppose
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:39 PM   #15
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:11 PM   #16
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To the OP, Leave the ST on (you don't want to end up in the wall your first time out) TC off and adjust your take off until you get a balance of little or no tire spin without bogging down. Then work on the lights aka reaction times. Your goal should be to reduce your 60 foot time and reaction time. Have fun at the track.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:31 PM   #17
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Launch around 2000-2200 rpm and be ready for 2cd gear...it comes FAST.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #19
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DKG11,

Here a few tips I give my club members when they have never been to the track and we have a "coaching day" at the strip.

Before you go:

Check you fluids,
Oil levels-topped off and changed recently
Brake fluid- should be caramel looking NOT oil looking. If it looks like your motor oil, Dark, take a turkey baster and siphon some out and put in new brake fluid. Preferrably Dot 4. If you don't when this heats up your clutch will stick to the floor after launch.

Upon arrival at the track,
Recheck your fluids,
Check you tire pressure.
Take out of your car anything loose that can fly around and impede your diving. In other words floor mats, sippy cups, or anything that could come loose and get in your way while driving.
Relax- Don't be nervous. You will make mistakes on your first few runs, it's inevitable and you will learn from them. Just relax.

Staging,
Don't worry about heating up your tires just yet. Let's get you down the track first.
For your first run I would leave all of the nannies on just to get a feel for the track and your car as it goes down the track. If after a few runs you start to feel comfortably you can disable Traction Control but only TC. Stability Control should be left on because your intention is to go in a straight line. IF you get squirrley it will save you before you can even think about it.
NEVER USE LAUNCH CONTROL- unless you want to replace your clutch and slave/master cylinders. There have been numerous posts about how your clutch will stick to the floor after using this feature.

The tree-
Pull up slowly
Your front tires will trip the first light- this is pre-staged.
Again RELAX
Inch slowly forward until the second light trips and this is Staged.
Now you wait until the lights start to "count down"
As they count down bring your revs up to what you are comfortable to launch at. In a LS3 car your first time try 1800 RPMS. If you don't know this RPM by sound get it up to RPM when you Stage.
When the last light lights before it goes green drop/sidestep, whatever you are comfortable with in your car, and hit the gas.
****Note-- You do not have to race the light if you don't want to.****
Your Time does not start until your car trips the light, meaning moving forward, so if you want to take your time to leave do so.
If the car next to you is intimidating and distracting let them leave first, gather yourself them hammer it when you are ready so you get the launch and time you want. You do not have to go on the green. Again, this is your learning time and you need to be relaxed and take your time on your launch so you can learn how to do it.

You are now on your way down the track,
Again RELAX
Shift just before redline so you don't hit the rev limiter.
Continue process until you cross the finish line.

Now, depending on which lane you are in and depending on where the turn off lane is will depend on when you turn off. The car closet to the turn off lane ALWAYS goes first so if you have to wait for him/her then you wait and follow or if it is on your side then go ahead and turn in.

Now, CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have made your first run.

After doing a few more runs you can turn of TC and play around with launch RPM's, tire pressure and ALL the other variables that go into Drag Racing. Have fun with it and enjoy yourself.

T.

PS. I am sure I missed a few points but that is the jist of it off the top of my head.
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DKG11,

Here a few tips I give my club members when they have never been to the track and we have a "coaching day" at the strip.

Before you go:

Check you fluids,
Oil levels-topped off and changed recently
Brake fluid- should be caramel looking NOT oil looking. If it looks like your motor oil, Dark, take a turkey baster and siphon some out and put in new brake fluid. Preferrably Dot 4. If you don't when this heats up your clutch will stick to the floor after launch.

Upon arrival at the track,
Recheck your fluids,
Check you tire pressure.
Take out of your car anything loose that can fly around and impede your diving. In other words floor mats, sippy cups, or anything that could come loose and get in your way while driving.
Relax- Don't be nervous. You will make mistakes on your first few runs, it's inevitable and you will learn from them. Just relax.

Staging,
Don't worry about heating up your tires just yet. Let's get you down the track first.
For your first run I would leave all of the nannies on just to get a feel for the track and your car as it goes down the track. If after a few runs you start to feel comfortably you can disable Traction Control but only TC. Stability Control should be left on because your intention is to go in a straight line. IF you get squirrley it will save you before you can even think about it.
NEVER USE LAUNCH CONTROL- unless you want to replace your clutch and slave/master cylinders. There have been numerous posts about how your clutch will stick to the floor after using this feature.

The tree-
Pull up slowly
Your front tires will trip the first light- this is pre-staged.
Again RELAX
Inch slowly forward until the second light trips and this is Staged.
Now you wait until the lights start to "count down"
As they count down bring your revs up to what you are comfortable to launch at. In a LS3 car your first time try 1800 RPMS. If you don't know this RPM by sound get it up to RPM when you Stage.
When the last light lights before it goes green drop/sidestep, whatever you are comfortable with in your car, and hit the gas.
****Note-- You do not have to race the light if you don't want to.****
Your Time does not start until your car trips the light, meaning moving forward, so if you want to take your time to leave do so.
If the car next to you is intimidating and distracting let them leave first, gather yourself them hammer it when you are ready so you get the launch and time you want. You do not have to go on the green. Again, this is your learning time and you need to be relaxed and take your time on your launch so you can learn how to do it.

You are now on your way down the track,
Again RELAX
Shift just before redline so you don't hit the rev limiter.
Continue process until you cross the finish line.

Now, depending on which lane you are in and depending on where the turn off lane is will depend on when you turn off. The car closet to the turn off lane ALWAYS goes first so if you have to wait for him/her then you wait and follow or if it is on your side then go ahead and turn in.

Now, CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have made your first run.

After doing a few more runs you can turn of TC and play around with launch RPM's, tire pressure and ALL the other variables that go into Drag Racing. Have fun with it and enjoy yourself.

T.

PS. I am sure I missed a few points but that is the jist of it off the top of my head.
Awesome write up!
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