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Old 06-26-2012, 02:15 PM   #1
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Here is the ZL1 New Era Intake

Here is the power coated intake with replacement windshield washer reservoir.

Gains have been very good, especially with relocating that huge stock windshield washer rezzie out of the way with something more reasonable.

We will be headed to the track this week again for more testing.

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Old 06-26-2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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Here is the power coated intake with replacement windshield washer reservoir.

Gains have been very good, especially with relocating that huge stock windshield washer rezzie out of the way with something more reasonable.

We will be headed to the track this week again for more testing.

All I see is a red X, can you e-mail the picture to

thomas.savu@barksdale.af.mil

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Old 06-26-2012, 02:21 PM   #3
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:31 PM   #4
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Thanks for the pics. It looks good. Do you have another pic showing the entire unit with the K&N attached?
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:48 PM   #5
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Working on the finished product instal pic. Hope to have it today. This one is going on Aaron's car.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:05 PM   #6
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Good gains? Do you have any numbers? Are you using any tuning mods?
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:25 PM   #7
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Gains are good. With this alone and a tune we ran 121.85 mph in the 1/4. This was a bit slower but the only video I have.

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Old 06-26-2012, 03:36 PM   #8
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Gains are good. With this alone and a tune we ran 121.85 mph in the 1/4. This was a bit slower but the only video I have.


are there gains to be had without tuning. How can I get a tune where
I live there are no shops that do that
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:45 PM   #9
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New Era intake gained 11 rwhp on the stock tune, and 31 rwhp with tuning. If you dont have a tuner in your area, we offer remote tuning with hptuners software. The 1/4 mile trap speed mph achieved with this intake speaks for itself on how efficient it is.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:52 PM   #10
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Take the pan off the bottom of the car and put a regular hood on the car cause you don't need down force for drag racing. All the stuff for down force adds aerodynamic drag! Does anybody want down force on the front end when drag racing? Not needed. When drag racing the idea is to transfer weight too the rear and make the front as light as possible. Try it you might like higher trap speeds.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #11
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Take the pan off the bottom of the car and put a regular hood on the car cause you don't need down force for drag racing. All the stuff for down force adds aerodynamic drag! Does anybody want down force on the front end when drag racing? Not needed. When drag racing the idea is to transfer weight too the rear and make the front as light as possible. Try it you might like higher trap speeds.
Ummm....wrong. The hood extractor is just that. An EXTRACTOR. It removes heat build up from under the hood that's generated by the super charger and the front stack. The frontal air now quickly moves through the stack and out from the hood with no resistance removing heat. Without the extractor you have...resistance. The pan on the bottom has very little to do with downforce and was designed to channel air for cooling. Hence the reason why it has NACA ducts directing air UP and doesn't span the length of the car. And downforce does NOT create drag. Especially on a car that has a belly pan and is low to the ground. Ironic that DRAG racing involves the nose of a car pointed at the sky and creating DRAG because it lost its aerodynamic properties with all the air trapped underneath like a scoop. The lower the car is to the ground (downforce) the more aerodynamic it becomes and the less drag/resistance that's exerted on the body. You know...Bernoullis Law. The whole reason why airplanes fly and race cars are seeking MORE downforce to REDUCE drag? Better go back to school. Try it...you might like it.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:36 PM   #12
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Will we possibly be seeing this intake in carbon fiber?
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:07 AM   #13
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Ummm....wrong. The hood extractor is just that. An EXTRACTOR. It removes heat build up from under the hood that's generated by the super charger and the front stack. The frontal air now quickly moves through the stack and out from the hood with no resistance removing heat. Without the extractor you have...resistance. The pan on the bottom has very little to do with downforce and was designed to channel air for cooling. Hence the reason why it has NACA ducts directing air UP and doesn't span the length of the car. And downforce does NOT create drag. Especially on a car that has a belly pan and is low to the ground. Ironic that DRAG racing involves the nose of a car pointed at the sky and creating DRAG because it lost its aerodynamic properties with all the air trapped underneath like a scoop. The lower the car is to the ground (downforce) the more aerodynamic Hit becomes and the less drag/resistance that's exerted on the body. You know...Bernoullis Law. The whole reason why airplanes fly and race cars are seeking MORE downforce to REDUCE drag? Better go back to school. Try it...you might like it.
You're being a bit harsh. Actually both of you are right. The hood extractor prevents unwanted lift from air entering and building up under the hood which reduces lift and it also aids in cooling. The belly pans reduce turbulence under the car without negatively affecting cooling. Also, downforce is created by aerodynamic drag (friction) and the weight of a car. If the rear spoiler is creating 150 lbs of downforce at speeds above 150 MPH, it is doing this by causing friction as the car moves through the air.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:41 AM   #14
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Just so I'm clear:

I haven't noticed preliminary base line runs, but I suspect you're A6 was running around 115-117. After tuning, this intake picked-up from 6-8 MPH? I'm not questions - I'm only asking for clarification

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Old 06-27-2012, 12:32 PM   #15
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When someone thinks I'm wrong please look into the downforce as drag! Lift is generated from the hood and roof of the car,so the hood causes tubulance to defeat this effect and the pan is also raked at an angle to cause downforce,take the pan off and put a different hood on and see what happens,then you can say I'm full of it! What happens when you speed up air? Does the pressure decrease or increase? Look it up and reply back and lets see who is correct.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:34 PM   #16
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Just so I'm clear:

I haven't noticed preliminary base line runs, but I suspect you're A6 was running around 115-117. After tuning, this intake picked-up from 6-8 MPH? I'm not questions - I'm only asking for clarification

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Unfortunately, we did not run this ZL1 down the track prior to the New Era CAI and tuning, but we have been seeing trap speeds as you mentioned with stock A6 ZL1's (115-117mph), so that is a general assumption of a 5-7 mph increase in 1/4 mile trap speed, yes. And, trap speed is a better definition of acceleration and horsepower than ET.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:17 PM   #17
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You're being a bit harsh. Actually both of you are right. The hood extractor prevents unwanted lift from air entering and building up under the hood which reduces lift and it also aids in cooling. The belly pans reduce turbulence under the car without negatively affecting cooling. Also, downforce is created by aerodynamic drag (friction) and the weight of a car. If the rear spoiler is creating 150 lbs of downforce at speeds above 150 MPH, it is doing this by causing friction as the car moves through the air.
The harshness was because he was speaking with arrogance and if he is an authority on the subject matter and used exclamation points to force his view/opinion.
Downforce is not created by drag or friction and is actually the opposite. Its generated by creating a lower pressure area (differential) which reduces drag and friction. This is why an airplane wing will fly or any other surface that has a pressure differential will change directions. It's also the reason why race cars are so low to the ground because it reduces drag which creates downforce and in turn generates more speed.

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When someone thinks I'm wrong please look into the downforce as drag! Lift is generated from the hood and roof of the car,so the hood causes tubulance to defeat this effect and the pan is also raked at an angle to cause downforce,take the pan off and put a different hood on and see what happens,then you can say I'm full of it! What happens when you speed up air? Does the pressure decrease or increase? Look it up and reply back and lets see who is correct.
I don't think you're wrong I know you are. I'm an an Engineer by trade with 20 years experience so I'm well versed on the laws of physics and don't need to go "look into" what I've spent my entire career practicing. My clients are very happy with my knowledge and my work. You don't understand the correlation between downforce, lift and drag and you're actually viewing them backwards. The reduction of drag/friction is what generates lift due to the low pressure area and differential that's created (increased AND decreased airspeed/pressure on opposing planes). Once again...Bournoulli's law. And for every actions there's an equal and opposite reaction. What you're trying to preach not only defies the law of physics but also contradicts what every race team on the planet that's seeking more speed already knows and designed their cars around. Yes...you're full of it. Keep yelling and trying to force your opinion with exclamation points and see how far it gets ya. Now back to the regularity scheduled discussion on the New Era CAI which is the topic of discussion for this thread.


KDI/New Era...will there be a possibility of this unit being offered CF? And does this unit have a 4" bore?
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:26 PM   #18
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3.9 ID on the tubing used for construction, each welded joint is internally hand blended to match. Air filter supports 1000 hp. Not available in carbon fiber, sorry.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:41 PM   #19
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3.9 ID on the tubing used for construction, each welded joint is internally hand blended to match. Air filter supports 1000 hp. Not available in carbon fiber, sorry.
Thank you sir. 3.9" is plenty fine. Was just curious on the CF. The matte black looks good.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:02 PM   #20
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The black on the CAI does look good, it matches the top of the intercooler.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:21 PM   #21
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Thanks, it is actually a wrinkle black exact match to the top of the blower.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:10 AM   #22
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Looks good, any installed pics?
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