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Old 06-27-2012, 10:45 AM   #18
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If GM was offering an $8000 dollar power package to match the $8000 dollar performance package that the reviewers always seem to include when comparing the ZL1 to the GT500 would this make it closer to an apples to apples test or should they be testing both vehicles at base price?

Or does everyone, including Ford fans, think it is fair comparing a $64,770 GT500 against a $56,365 ZL1?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:09 AM   #19
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So what your telling me.... Is that if I wanna get to the dragstrip I gotta buy a zl1..... Unless the drag strip is in your back yard... In that case after you run it down the strip you will hit a wall and die cuz of the brake fade..... Seems legit
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:11 AM   #20
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:15 AM   #21
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It failed the most important test... at the dragstrip.. Car is too heavy..
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:16 AM   #22
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It failed the most important test... at the dragstrip.. Car is too heavy..
Anyone can drive in a straight line. ZL1 won where it counts, IMO.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:17 AM   #23
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If GM was offering an $8000 dollar power package to match the $8000 dollar performance package that the reviewers always seem to include when comparing the ZL1 to the GT500 would this make it closer to an apples to apples test or should they be testing both vehicles at base price?

Or does everyone, including Ford fans, think it is fair comparing a $64,770 GT500 against a $56,365 ZL1?
I prefer the GT500 but I do think they should be doing some base car tests too. If not, there's always gonna be these what if's. There are multiple things that are contributing to that price difference though. The Shelby has a bit more options that can drive its price up than the ZL1 does. The performance package and track packages are less than $8k combined.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:17 AM   #24
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If GM was offering an $8000 dollar power package to match the $8000 dollar performance package that the reviewers always seem to include when comparing the ZL1 to the GT500 would this make it closer to an apples to apples test or should they be testing both vehicles at base price?

Or does everyone, including Ford fans, think it is fair comparing a $64,770 GT500 against a $56,365 ZL1?
I think you have a great point. I was thinking the same thing, but you put it into words. Adding 8G to the ZL1 motor hmmm...wonder how that race turns out.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:19 AM   #25
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It failed the most important test... at the dragstrip.. Car is too heavy..
If that is the most important test then you would have to say the Nissan GT-R is the best choice.
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It failed the most important test... at the dragstrip.. Car is too heavy..
If you are into the dragstrip. Screaming success elsewise. The 1LE is being designed for the strip though so watch out!
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:20 AM   #27
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I prefer the GT500 but I do think they should be doing some base car tests too. If not, there's always gonna be these what if's. There are multiple things that are contributing to that price difference though. The Shelby has a bit more options that can drive its price up than the ZL1 does. The performance package and track packages are less than $8k combined.

I too think base model tests need to be done. The mustang has options that drive its price up like you said, of which come standard on the camaro at base price.
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If you are into the dragstrip. Screaming success elsewise. The 1LE is being designed for the strip though so watch out!
I thought the COPO was going to be the dragstrip Camaro?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:21 AM   #29
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Well they can say what they want and back it all up for all I care. GT500 would be my choice any day. The ZL1 might be faster on a road course, but I would much rather know that the overzealous douche in the ZL1 wouldn't beat me to the merge.

And of course it would be a merge on a closed course. Bc we all know nobody on this site would dare street race.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:28 AM   #30
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If GM was offering an $8000 dollar power package to match the $8000 dollar performance package that the reviewers always seem to include when comparing the ZL1 to the GT500 would this make it closer to an apples to apples test or should they be testing both vehicles at base price?

Or does everyone, including Ford fans, think it is fair comparing a $64,770 GT500 against a $56,365 ZL1?
It has the SVT performance package, which includes upgraded Torsen Differential, Upgraded Dampers, different rear springs along with upgraded wheels. All for $3,400.

Where is this "$8,000" package you speak of?

There's the SVT Track Package that includes an upgraded cooling system for $2,900 but the article never said it was included. Even if it was equipped, we arn't at an added $8,000 .
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:29 AM   #31
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If all you want to do is go in a straight line(1/4 mile) Save yourself about $50K and build a fox body stang or 3rd/4th gen camaro, about 10 grand spent on car and go fast goodies and I bet you would beat the 2013 gt 500 I would buy the all around performer............ ZL1
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:33 AM   #32
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wow actually a really good review, completely split and unbiased. And yes the war will continue with no real winner. I am a little suprised in the quarter time for both cars, figured they would be able to hustle the ZL to a sub 12s run and definately did not expect the Muskrat to put up that high a MPH.
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Car for the drag strip.... Copo
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:37 AM   #34
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A lot of the GT500 racers add brake cooling ducts which makes the biggest difference as evidenced by the ZL1's fantastic consistent results. However there were brake duct ports behind the grilles of the previous GT500s; with the new GT500 grill-less grilles, where would the brake duct tubes attach to?

Anyway, clearly GM made a very well balanced car and the Europeans should be afraid.

I saw this tongue-in-cheek jab posted up in another forum:


..which shows that the 2013 GT500 was made to win these tests, but the ZL1 was made to win track races consistently.
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