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Fireball · 05-18-2009, 07:49 PM

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/shelbygt...testdrive.html

2010 Shelby GT500 vs 2010 Camaro SS

0-60: 4.3 vs 5.0 (4.0 vs 4.7 with 1' rollout)
1/4-mile: 12.4 vs 13.0

speedster · 05-18-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireball

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/shelbygt...testdrive.html

2010 Shelby GT500 vs 2010 Camaro SS

0-60: 4.3 vs 5.0 (4.0 vs 4.7 with 1' rollout)
1/4-mile: 12.4 vs 13.0

At least get a little closer to an apples-to-apples comparison and run it against that new Henessey.
I think that the GT500 should be allowed the same cold air induction, cat back exhaust and the same drag radials. I assume the boost for both is about the same. Now that would be a good match race.

GrnMchin · 05-18-2009, 08:01 PM

6 tenths faster and at least 10k more yeah I think with that much $ in hand I could get it to spank the GT500 and buy a round of drinks for the entire bar after the win.

Crowley · 05-18-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireball

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/shelbygt...testdrive.html

2010 Shelby GT500 vs 2010 Camaro SS

0-60: 4.3 vs 5.0 (4.0 vs 4.7 with 1' rollout)
1/4-mile: 12.4 vs 13.0

Unfortunately this is something we already knew

Crowley

Sctrjn21 · 05-18-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster

At least get a little closer to an apples-to-apples comparison and run it against that new Henessey.
I think that the GT500 should be allowed the same cold air induction, cat back exhaust and the same drag radials. I assume the boost for both is about the same. Now that would be a good match race.

Yeah I agree, compare to the henessey one. Henessey just ran 11.6 and the gt500 is still at 12.4. Too much money for a gt500, 8k less would be a different story in my opinion

Xmicro_SS · 05-18-2009, 08:09 PM

Here we go again.......

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And try 4.7 0-60 on the SS. That edmunds is inaccurate. And for $20+K more the GT500 better win. But, for less than $10K the Camaro will slam that wagon hard!

DeathChill · 05-18-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sctrjn21

Yeah I agree, compare to the henessey one. Henessey just ran 11.6 and the gt500 is still at 12.4. Too much money for a gt500, 8k less would be a different story in my opinion

To be fair I think the cost of the GT500 is due to the components. You can push crazy horsepower through them no problem.

Mblock66 · 05-18-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Xmicro_SS

Here we go again.......

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And try 4.7 0-60 on the SS. That edmunds is inaccurate. And for $20+K more the GT500 better win. But, for less than $10K the Camaro will slam that wagon hard!

You can't reduce the SS to 4.7 if you don't then allow the GT500 to be reduced too. If the Edmunds drivers suck and can only get a 5.0 in the SS then they will suck on the GT500 too and "only" get a 4.3.

I really doubt that they dogged the SS on purpose and pushed the GT500 to its limits. It was probably the same driver for both

The fact is that the camaro just isn't as fast stock for stock with that car. But the GT500 needs to be compared to the Vette not the camaro

garagelogic · 05-18-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mblock66

But the GT500 needs to be compared to the Vette not the camaro

Why? Other than base price, what do they have in common?

Nothing stated in this thread should come as a surprise to anyone. It has been discussed, argued and beat to death on his forum and many others.

As for comparing it to the Hennessey S/C Camaro, we've discussed that as well. Give the GT500 a tune and drag radials and let 'em go at it.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-18-2009, 09:01 PM

to this thread

beowulf80 · 05-18-2009, 09:04 PM

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Why? Other than base price, what do they have in common?

Umm, base price and target audience?

I'll give you that the GT500 is gonna spank a SS, but j/c I would hope so for that money...

Super Sport · 05-18-2009, 09:05 PM

Edmunds is always a bit off on the 0-60 times... I'm pretty damn sure the SS can manage a bit better. That and the comparison is off... If we had a Z28 then you could compare but with 75 more hp and similar torque the GT500 is an entirely different beast imho.

ibznu2010 · 05-18-2009, 09:11 PM

My question is this. you need water to start a burn out on KR? Thats what the video shows. Chevy all the way here.

MerF · 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Next comparison of this caliber:

Camry versus G8 GXP.

They're both four-doors.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-18-2009, 09:16 PM

Who is tired of hearing this.

I noticed that they conned the stang on the fact that it had a small back seat... WOW! I did not know that. I totally expected my pony car to have a back seat with the room of my impala. ITS A FREAKING PONY CAR!!! PONY IS SMALL. NOT AS BIG AS A HORSE, BUT SMALLER! DUH!

garagelogic · 05-18-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by beowulf80

Umm, base price and target audience?

Maybe for some people, but not too many people I know cross-shop the GT500 and Corvette. I know I didn't. If I was looking for the best performance off the showroom floor for my $$, I would not have bought the car I did. Given all the Camaro fans on this site, I figured it would be understood that performance is not the only reason why you buy a car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Sport

Edmunds is always a bit off on the 0-60 times... I'm pretty damn sure the SS can manage a bit better. That and the comparison is off... If we had a Z28 then you could compare but with 75 more hp and similar torque the GT500 is an entirely different beast imho.

Yeah, comparing the GT500 to the SS is just as goofy as comparing a GT500 to a Corvette, but that didn't stop all the magazines from doing just that during the time there was no Camaro or Challenger to compare it to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibznu2010

My question is this. you need water to start a burn out on KR? Thats what the video shows. Chevy all the way here.

MerF · 05-18-2009, 09:25 PM

I'm with GL on this, the GT500 isn't on par with the Vette anymore than a 2SS is on par with a GT500. The truth of the matter is there is no Chevy that is fair to compare with the GT500...it's pretty much in a class of it's own in today's market.

THE EVIL TW1N · 05-18-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibznu2010

My question is this. you need water to start a burn out on KR? Thats what the video shows. Chevy all the way here.

I agree 100%, because the GT500 and KR are completely uncapable of doing a burn out.

stangvert · 05-18-2009, 09:30 PM

cant compare a gt500 to a camaro ss.

garagelogic · 05-18-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stangvert

cant compare a gt500 to a camaro ss.

Seems like they already have. Didn't you get the memo?

DeathChill · 05-18-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Seems like they already have. Didn't you get the memo?

I never get the memo. :(

WILHELM · 05-18-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stangvert

cant compare a gt500 to a camaro ss.

You can't seem to put together a sentence....hahah no hard feelings homie.

garagelogic · 05-18-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireball

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/shelbygt...testdrive.html

2010 Shelby GT500 vs 2010 Camaro SS

1/4-mile: 12.4 vs 13.0

Hmmmm...nobody said anything about this sentence in the article. "we got that time running against a 14-mph headwind."

DeathChill · 05-18-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

Hmmmm...nobody said anything about this sentence in the article. "we got that time running against a 14-mph headwind."

It's no fun to make the car you want sound bad. COME ON MAN. No one needs your science to spoil the fun. I hate you science. :(

comiskeybum · 05-18-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrnMchin

6 tenths faster and at least 10k more yeah I think with that much $ in hand I could get it to spank the GT500 and buy a round of drinks for the entire bar after the win.

that 10k price difference isnt just in the engine yanno. interior and everything else apply

05-18-2009, 07:49 PM	#1
Fireball Drives: Turbocharged Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 99	Edmunds: 2010 Shelby GT500 Crushes 2010 Camaro SS Source: http://www.edmunds.com/ford/shelbygt...testdrive.html 2010 Shelby GT500 vs 2010 Camaro SS 0-60: 4.3 vs 5.0 (4.0 vs 4.7 with 1' rollout) 1/4-mile: 12.4 vs 13.0

05-18-2009, 08:01 PM	#3
GrnMchin Not easy being Green Drives: 67 Nova SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,518	6 tenths faster and at least 10k more yeah I think with that much $ in hand I could get it to spank the GT500 and buy a round of drinks for the entire bar after the win. __________________ The 68 Camaro build project

05-18-2009, 08:09 PM	#6
Xmicro_SS Thank You GM Drives: Sky Redline & Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,895	Here we go again....... . And try 4.7 0-60 on the SS. That edmunds is inaccurate. And for $20+K more the GT500 better win. But, for less than $10K the Camaro will slam that wagon hard! __________________ ITS HERE! : 2010 Camaro 2SS / 6 Speed Manual (No other way) / Silver Ice Metallic / Inferno Orange Interior Accent / RS Package / Polished Wheels / SOLO MACH X CAT BACK

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Camaro_Corvette 50.335252,6.947103 Drives: Finally! 2013 VR 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 20,475 View My Garage	Who is tired of hearing this. I noticed that they conned the stang on the fact that it had a small back seat... WOW! I did not know that. I totally expected my pony car to have a back seat with the room of my impala. ITS A FREAKING PONY CAR!!! PONY IS SMALL. NOT AS BIG AS A HORSE, BUT SMALLER! DUH! __________________

05-18-2009, 09:05 PM	#12
Super Sport Drives: Mazda 3 GS 2008.5 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 55	Edmunds is always a bit off on the 0-60 times... I'm pretty damn sure the SS can manage a bit better. That and the comparison is off... If we had a Z28 then you could compare but with 75 more hp and similar torque the GT500 is an entirely different beast imho.

05-18-2009, 09:11 PM	#13
ibznu2010 Drives: 2010 blk 2SS RS polished wheel Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sylvester Georgia Posts: 158	My question is this. you need water to start a burn out on KR? Thats what the video shows. Chevy all the way here.

05-18-2009, 09:14 PM	#14
MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,537	Next comparison of this caliber: Camry versus G8 GXP. They're both four-doors.

05-18-2009, 09:25 PM	#17
MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,537	I'm with GL on this, the GT500 isn't on par with the Vette anymore than a 2SS is on par with a GT500. The truth of the matter is there is no Chevy that is fair to compare with the GT500...it's pretty much in a class of it's own in today's market.

05-18-2009, 09:30 PM	#19
stangvert Drives: stang vert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cal Posts: 49	cant compare a gt500 to a camaro ss.

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