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Old 06-27-2012, 10:07 PM   #1
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Help On Set Up TVS2300

So I am buying for my future SS the TVS2300 SC , and plan on making too 600 - 650 HP to the wheels, what would be a good Set up to go along with the SC on a LS3 Motor, Most of the car will be Stock, what will be included is

Curently Have
-Magnacharger TVS2300 full system w/3.8 Pulley, Blackwing Intake, Custom Tune & SLP Engine Covers
-16% OD Cog Drive w/Modified Fuel Rails
-Kooks 2in. Headers
-KB BAP - http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...%252dPUMP.html
-I believe Either 56 or 62LB Injectors / Stock Spark Plugs
-Nurburgring 20x10 / 20x11 i believe wheels / No Slicks , just regular sport tires.
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Plan on getting a Exhaust System to hook on the heads also, Catless.

So what else would i need to reach that power and and it will run all good on stock tranny axles and engine @ 600 HP to wheels or so?

Cam? , Pistons? Pushrods? Bushings? give me a list of things that would help reach that power, at reasonable price, not cheap , but not hella expensive.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:13 PM   #2
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A blower cam with the proper injectors and fuel pump should get you there.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:28 PM   #3
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A blower cam with the proper injectors and fuel pump should get you there.
What type of fuel pump is good for getting there, cause on oil pump i was going to stick with stock, read up that many people lose pressure with aftermarket pumps. And what kind of cam would help me get there, i have seen many different cams, but not sure which kind to go with.

Something like this i seen before also.
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You'll need half shafts and red end upgrades. I am not pushing that much power yet but had to upgrade rear end parts including JRE posimod and caps for the diff.
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Why did you upgrade those? I read some comments people say the rear end stock can hold up to 600+ HP same goes for tranny.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:34 AM   #6
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ZL1 fuel pump, blower cam with valvetrain upgrades, 53lb injectors won't sustain the power you want to make-> id850s.

^^this with what you mentioned already will get you to the power you want. Then you will need a clutch, axles and some suspension mods to plant the power (at the very least).
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #7
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ZL1 fuel pump, blower cam with valvetrain upgrades, 53lb injectors won't sustain the power you want to make-> id850s.

^^this with what you mentioned already will get you to the power you want. Then you will need a clutch, axles and some suspension mods to plant the power (at the very least).


+1 JRE has a some nice blower cams
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ZL1 Fuel Pump and ID850's are on my list, jeez those injectors are expensive >.< 900$ for 8
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Yeah i am going to go with the JRE CAM, will i need a radiator upgrade? to help with cooling or plug wires or spark plugs , anything else?
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Stock radiator and plug wires are fine. Use stock plugs or ZL1 plugs

Those injectors are expensive but you shouldnt ever have to buy another set again. Im happy with them
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Stock radiator and plug wires are fine. Use stock plugs or ZL1 plugs

Those injectors are expensive but you shouldnt ever have to buy another set again. Im happy with them

Glad to know its a good investment.
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So I am buying for my future SS the TVS2300 SC , and plan on making too 600 - 650 HP to the wheels, what would be a good Set up to go along with the SC on a LS3 Motor, Most of the car will be Stock, what will be included is

-Magnacharger TVS2300 full system w/3.8 Pulley, Blackwing Intake, Custom Tune & SLP Engine Covers

-16% OD Cog Drive w/Modified Fuel Rails
-Kooks 2in. Headers
-KB BAP
Plan on getting a Exhaust System to hook on the heads also, Catless.
-Nurburgring 20x10 / 20x11 i believe wheels / No Slicks , just regular sport tires.
-RX Catch Can
-Possibly RX TB
-ZL1 Fuel Pump
-ID850 Injectors.
-JRE Cam
-I believe Either 56 or 62LB Injectors / Stock Spark Plugs


So what else would i need to reach that power and and it will run all good on stock tranny axles and engine @ 600 HP to wheels or so?

Cam? , Pistons? Pushrods? Bushings? give me a list of things that would help reach that power, at reasonable price, not cheap , but not hella expensive.
The KB BAP will not support this power level with the stock pump, and the ZL-1 pump would be right on the edge.

The LPE Twin Pump system is a better choice and will leave room for further growth.

The ID-850 injectors are the Best Choice and are 96 lb. per hour at 4 bar.

A Cold Air inductons CAI would be a Great choice For your Project.

My Smooth Idle blower cam is the Ticket with the PD blowers.

Just off the Dyno with this package and my smooth Idle blower cam on an L99 Automatic put down 632 RWHP 560 RWTQ on 93 octane fuel.

Any Drag racing in the future I would go with Either a DSS 9 inch diff, driveshaft and axle Package or an LPE Diff driveshaft and axle package.

The trans is Pretty Stout, the Clutch will depend all on you but we have run it as high as 700 RWHP without hurting it.

A Drag Radial will be a must for normal street driving and a set of Slicks for Drag Racing.

Suspension upgrades like Trailing arms and toe links along with a Quality Performance alignment are crucial to control wheel hop.

Any Further question feel free to ask or contact me directly.

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Old 06-28-2012, 04:56 PM   #13
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The KB BAP will not support this power level with the stock pump, and the ZL-1 pump would be right on the edge.

The LPE Twin Pump system is a better choice and will leave room for further growth.

The ID-850 injectors are the Best Choice and are 96 lb. per hour at 4 bar.

A Cold Air inductons CAI would be a Great choice For your Project.

My Smooth Idle blower cam is the Ticket with the PD blowers.

Just off the Dyno with this package and my smooth Idle blower cam on an L99 Automatic put down 632 RWHP 560 RWTQ on 93 octane fuel.

Any Drag racing in the future I would go with Either a DSS 9 inch diff, driveshaft and axle Package or an LPE Diff driveshaft and axle package.

The trans is Pretty Stout, the Clutch will depend all on you but we have run it as high as 700 RWHP without hurting it.

A Drag Radial will be a must for normal street driving and a set of Slicks for Drag Racing.

Suspension upgrades like Trailing arms and toe links along with a Quality Performance alignment are crucial to control wheel hop.

Any Further question feel free to ask or contact me directly.

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WoW TED answers most of my questions ! But why DR's for street driving? and a twin pump? i heard those are quite expensive.... do you have links on any good pumps.
And i have a CAI that will come with the SC from a member, but i will most likely stick with C.A.I intake as i have one on my current car.

I also forgot to mention the car will be a M6
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Ah shit, is the ZL1 pump really on edge at 650rwhp?
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Ah shit, is the ZL1 pump really on edge at 650rwhp?

i really hope its not , cause the cost of a twin pump is almost like trippled.
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i really hope its not , cause the cost of a twin pump is almost like trippled.
Didnt you say you have a BAP too? and this is a M6 right?
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Didnt you say you have a BAP too? and this is a M6 right?

Yes the KB BAP and it is a M6
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i really hope its not , cause the cost of a twin pump is almost like trippled.
The 3 most important things about building a high HP car are.

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This is the one area you need not skimp and just do it right.
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i really hope its not , cause the cost of a twin pump is almost like trippled.
I don't mean this the way you might take it...but if the cost of a twin pump freaks you out...then a supercharger on a stock block is CLEARLY not a good idea.

If at any given time you wouldn't be able to and comfortable with having to shell out 4 to 6k dollars to replace your engine with a forged short block because your stocker just croaked...then you should reconsider.

Suddenly twin pumps seem like a bargain.
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I don't mean this the way you might take it...but if the cost of a twin pump freaks you out...then a supercharger on a stock block is CLEARLY not a good idea.

If at any given time you wouldn't be able to and comfortable with having to shell out 4 to 6k dollars to replace your engine with a forged short block because your stocker just croaked...then you should reconsider.

Suddenly twin pumps seem like a bargain.
as mentioned above a ZL1 Fuel Pump was brought into discussion, and Twin pump as secndary, i dont see how is a ZL1 fuel pump borderlining 600hp??
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The 3 most important things about building a high HP car are.

1. Fuel
2. Fuel
3. Fuel

This is the one area you need not skimp and just do it right.

I also see you are running a LPE Fuel System, How is that working out for you @ How much horsepower? I just looked it up for the entire fuel system
http://jreperformanceparts.com/2010-...el-system.html

As you mentioned not to skimp out on this step, i second thought that might be a reasonable price ?
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Yes the KB BAP and it is a M6
A bap and a ZL1 pump would be plenty of fuel.
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A bap and a ZL1 pump would be plenty of fuel.
Cool, but ZL1 Vs Twin for running 600 - 650 to the wheels with BAP
would i need to have a Twin pump as a must vs the ZL1 one? Another guy has a LPE System and its priced at 1100$ and im just trying to figure what would go best for the car and not run the risk of screwing up.
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as mentioned above a ZL1 Fuel Pump was brought into discussion, and Twin pump as secndary, i dont see how is a ZL1 fuel pump borderlining 600hp??
Then by all means...try it and find out for yourself....we aren't going to stop you.
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You could run the ZL1 pump and the BAP it would be more than enough. I know the zl1 pump would be plenty for 600 hp. I was one of the first people to have a Zl1 pump last year before the public could even get them from GM we tested it a pretty good bit never had problems with pressure drop.
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