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Old 06-30-2012, 01:14 PM   #1
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Angry 2nd time in less than a year!!!!!

Okay so another damn engine problem. Heard a knockin noise so got an appointment at my dealership and took it in. Last year I had the same problem and they had to replace my engine. Now they're saying the same thing.. But GM is "red-flagging" the approval for the new engine because of suspected abuse??? So if they don't approve it I'm gunna have to lay around $4,000 for a new engine.. There's no reason to be bone dry on oil when I got an oil change less than 3,000 miles ago. No puddles in my driveway so I'm not leakin and there's no way somebody crawled under neath my car to drain it... But it's looking as if I'm gunna be without my camaro for about 2 weeks probably. It's KILLING ME and it's only been 2 days. Just wondering if anybody else is having these problems?
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:26 PM   #2
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fight it ,threaten whatever you have to,if it is not tuned or modded they shouldnt have a leg to stand on
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:58 PM   #3
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That has got to be a nightmare. Don't know what I'd do if it happened to me.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #4
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if it happened to me again..honestly...i would sell my car or just save those 4k and buy a V8 Swapped engine
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:50 PM   #5
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Just courious, do you ever check the oil, it may be flagged b/c they feel catistrophic engine failure could have been prevented. I still agree that they should fix it if it hasn't been tuned or modified because it was obviously due to part that failed, but likely if it was noticed burning or using oil before the damage, it may have been a much easier fix.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:42 PM   #6
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Did you ever get a engine warning ? If not for the oil issue, the system didn't warn you, so regardless of what might or might not have occurred with whomever last changed your oil, the car is supposed to alert you before you get to this point. With all the diagnostics and warnings on these cars, no reason you should be sitting at a dealership having to battle whether you are to blame or not. You also have On Star still active, correct ? They also monitor your car status and engine health monthly. That also should have thrown a flag, and that also is Chevrolet administered. No reason you should see any pain from this, including a loaner until your car is ready to come home, but if the car has only 4000 miles on it and this is the second time, I'd be looking for a replacement. Sounds VERY fishy that you'd see this magnitude of issues. These cars are solid as a rock, yours must have come off the assembly line late Friday before a holiday weekend and been rushed a bit. The dealer should be working hard to get you a REAL GOOD deal on a replacement to keep your business. Good luck.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:13 PM   #7
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These motors really should be checked once a week. They love oil. I had my motor replaced after it spun a bearing because of no oil. I check my oil now at least once week to make sure everything is always right.

You HAVE to let this car sit for several hrs to get a reliable reading. Your gauges will not tell you much and no idiot lights will come on to warn you either. Kinda sucks but it is what it is. What I do is usually every Friday when I pull into the garage I park it, pop the hood and then let it sit overnight. When I come out the next morning I see my hood open and remember to check my oil. I have a 5 qt container of 5w30 Mobil 1 siting in my garage and when it's low, I add a little until it reads on that middle hash.

I checked mine this morning and it was perfect so I didnt need to add.

We have to do this or else we'll be bummin like OP. I've been there and it is a horrible feeling.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:16 PM   #8
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Sounds like they trying to get over. I agree fight it !!
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:48 PM   #9
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Yea it's rediculous . I'm going to fight it as much as possible. Tho my dealer IS doing a good job fighting GM for me. And yes I do check my oil usually once every week or two weeks. I don't get it. I was thinkin to trade it in after all these problems but I just can't bring myself to trade it in ! It's too much of a head turner to trade in . It sucks seeing it sitting there at the dealership while they bicker and get nothing done .
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:10 PM   #10
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These motors really should be checked once a week. They love oil. I had my motor replaced after it spun a bearing because of no oil. I check my oil now at least once week to make sure everything is always right.

You HAVE to let this car sit for several hrs to get a reliable reading. Your gauges will not tell you much and no idiot lights will come on to warn you either. Kinda sucks but it is what it is. What I do is usually every Friday when I pull into the garage I park it, pop the hood and then let it sit overnight. When I come out the next morning I see my hood open and remember to check my oil. I have a 5 qt container of 5w30 Mobil 1 siting in my garage and when it's low, I add a little until it reads on that middle hash.

I checked mine this morning and it was perfect so I didnt need to add.

We have to do this or else we'll be bummin like OP. I've been there and it is a horrible feeling.
who checks there car engine once a week. routine maintenance and i dont look at it


question. what mods do you have on your car too if any? if you have ANY i would take them off immediately
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:11 PM   #11
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and where will u find a new engine for only $4000
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:27 AM   #12
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It is within design specification for your engine to use 1 quart of oil in 500 miles. You might want to reconsider your stance.


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who checks there car engine once a week. routine maintenance and i dont look at it


question. what mods do you have on your car too if any? if you have ANY i would take them off immediately
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:55 AM   #13
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Hope it turns out well for the OP.

Just checked my oil, all good. Can't help but wonder what's going on with oil level on some of these cars. I don't baby mine and have only added maybe a quart in 18K miles. I change it every 6-7k.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:59 AM   #14
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Bro, dont let them fool you with the bullshit, if ure still under warranty and have regular service at your dealer then tell them to EFF them selves and get you a new Engine! Their install of might been weak, or if theyve overhauled you previous engine, assembly of components and parts must have gone wrong somewhere.

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Old 07-01-2012, 08:05 AM   #15
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and where will u find a new engine for only $4000
take out or junk yard motors... got a perfect used motor for my V6 Mustang for $1,000...

For the Camaro this place has used motors for $1,750:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-11-CHEVY-...57347a&vxp=mtr
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:44 AM   #16
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These motors really should be checked once a week. They love oil. I had my motor replaced after it spun a bearing because of no oil. I check my oil now at least once week to make sure everything is always right.

You HAVE to let this car sit for several hrs to get a reliable reading. Your gauges will not tell you much and no idiot lights will come on to warn you either. Kinda sucks but it is what it is. What I do is usually every Friday when I pull into the garage I park it, pop the hood and then let it sit overnight. When I come out the next morning I see my hood open and remember to check my oil. I have a 5 qt container of 5w30 Mobil 1 siting in my garage and when it's low, I add a little until it reads on that middle hash.

I checked mine this morning and it was perfect so I didnt need to add.

We have to do this or else we'll be bummin like OP. I've been there and it is a horrible feeling.
This man 100%.

ESPECIALLY if you beat on your car! If you go WOT at all you will burn oil at an even faster rate. I know me personally, I beat on my car and I've been having to add at least a quart in between 4,000-5,000 mile oil changes.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:19 AM   #17
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #18
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I really wonder if that's one of the reasons why there was the change over to LFX.
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I am at about 5K since last change and will have the oil changed early this week since it has been more than a year since my last. still have oil on the tip of the dip stick so I think I am still good. and I WOT it from time to time. but baby it most of the time. these threads are freaking me out!!
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I know you're all trying to support the OP, but just think about this if you were a bean counter in the GM engine replacement department. GM probably replaces engines on cars under warranty perhaps very 2 million miles driven (just a wild guess). One customer had his replaced and needs another one 12,000 miles later. Either this guy is the unluckiest GM customer I have ever heard about, or he is responsible for the problem.

I haven't heard any replies about mods or mistreatment of the car. GM will approve once they figure out it is just really bad luck.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:40 PM   #21
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Yeah the post on check regular are best. For the last year I check about every 500 miles which is about once a week. What I have learned is I have virtually no oil loss until I get around 3500 miles then it starts to drop rather fast. I can't tell you exactly why but this is why I change every 3500-4000 regardless of what manual or the computer tells me. I have taken heat before by saying ignore the computer but I really think based on my experience that is a good plan. I have 55k and knock on wood hopefully I will continue to have no problems.

Good Luck op getting your car fixed.
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Thanks guys, but I don't beat on it that bad and I check my oil often . No reason for this tho . And when this happened my gauge still read 23% oil life. And I was +500 miles away from my next oil change. I understand GM's stance on this but regardless I have 22,000 miles and haven't even had the car a year, so it's Deffinately still under warranty. Which is what I don't get. My beautiful car just sittin on the side of the dealership while they do NOTHING is what's got me agrivated. More than the problem itself ..
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:44 AM   #23
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Fight it, no matter what. Stealerships never want the customer to win in a warrenty situation.. its always the customers "fault"
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Fight it, no matter what. Stealerships never want the customer to win in a warrenty situation.. its always the customers "fault"
Not true at all! You just need to find a GOOD dealership... May take a while but there are some out there!
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Thanks guys, but I don't beat on it that bad and I check my oil often . No reason for this tho . And when this happened my gauge still read 23% oil life. And I was +500 miles away from my next oil change. I understand GM's stance on this but regardless I have 22,000 miles and haven't even had the car a year, so it's Deffinately still under warranty. Which is what I don't get. My beautiful car just sittin on the side of the dealership while they do NOTHING is what's got me agrivated. More than the problem itself ..
The 23% is the OIL LIFE monitor... has nothing to due with how much oil is actually in your engine... Again, according the official specs, the engine can consume 1 quart after only 500 miles! So say you have 4,500 miles on this oil change... that 9 quarts of oil... I understand that's the extreme and I sympathize with you, however if GM wants to play hardball...
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