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Old 07-18-2012, 06:18 PM   #51
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Really?! Good to know. Now it all makes sense!

Thanks Andy!
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #52
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Really?! Good to know. Now it all makes sense!

Thanks Andy!
ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!??
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:01 AM   #53
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Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body showed up today!
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:25 AM   #54
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Man those machined heads look sick. Cant wait for more information on this build!


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Of course - thanks for your comments and input. I think you're seeing what I'm thinking. I really only want to get to a little more than 600 RWHP, because I need to pass a sniffer, too. What you're posting is really just increasing efficiency, which is what I was thinking would be for the best for me. My exhaust would strictly be CARB-shorties (ARHs) and maybe an X-pipe, so I'm a little handicapped. I might have to cheat on my CAI though... I don't know what you're spending on porting the blower, but I was thinking that would be worth a set of GMPP CNC'd heads, and I wouldn't have to really add too much more boost. I wouldn't go much more than an LS9 cam, but I really would like to keep from digging into the short block.

I'm sorry - just split-balling and can't wait to see what you come out with. I'm really looking forward to seeing the blower, because the snout looks OUTSTANDING!!! OMG!!! Are there any identification marks or machining on the outside of the heads, like below the exhaust ports or on the front or rear? Like I mentioned - I need stealth
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For example - I have a power goal in mind and had been considering pulleys and a little exhaust and intake mods' for several more pounds of boost.

man radz28 i need to pick you're brain at the C5Fest. It seems You're having the same stuff in mind as i do. I keep reading all those threads in the ZL1 section and wonder "how did they do it?" or "i need that, where do i go?" and sure enough i keep reading and Radz28 asks all my questions... It's almost scary how much we think alike!

P.S. i'll be taking my ZL1 to Switzerland by the end of the year and i too need a stealthy package ! Right now i'm flirting with an ADM HP650+ package with a twist (maybe add an LS9 cam and some ported goodies). how about that?

Unfortunately it also needs to be within a reasonable buget lol
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:29 AM   #55
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HOLLY CRAP!!! THAT TB IS HUGE!!!

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Man those machined heads look sick. Cant wait for more information on this build!

man radz28 i need to pick you're brain at the C5Fest. It seems You're having the same stuff in mind as i do. I keep reading all those threads in the ZL1 section and wonder "how did they do it?" or "i need that, where do i go?" and sure enough i keep reading and Radz28 asks all my questions... It's almost scary how much we think alike!

P.S. i'll be taking my ZL1 to Switzerland by the end of the year and i too need a stealthy package ! Right now i'm flirting with an ADM HP650+ package with a twist (maybe add an LS9 cam and some ported goodies). how about that?

Unfortunately it also needs to be within a reasonable buget lol
Regrettably - I can't make it to 'Fest this year :( Hopefully I can make it next year though There are a lot of people I'd love to me finally.

Yeah - I full of questions There are so many options, and I'm the type that likes to maximize a combination before really getting crazy. I don't like spending money on replacing parts twice, so believe me that I'm taking notes on everyone sharing their builds.

I'm all ears (eyes) Post your build so I can track and learn
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I really like the craftsmanship in these heads!
Man....so do I, outstanding workmanship and volumetric increases. That's motorhead eye candy. Keep those shots coming as you progress if you could. Thanks!
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:28 AM   #57
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Installed the new cam tonight


And like an idiot, I overtightened the cam retainer plate! Another part to order. :(
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:17 AM   #58
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:03 PM   #59
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Well I'd be inclined to say this weekend was productive but only because I spent a lot of hours on the car. This is my first 5th gen Camaro project and I don't know if the ZL1 is unique but dropping the oil pan to remove the oil pump and change the timing chain dampener is a royal PITA! There's so much under the engine from A/C lines to electrical harnesses that are held in place by literally LAYERS of brackets and bolts. You find yourself 3 to 4 steps removed from the main bolt you're trying to loosen simply because of everything else that needs to be removed or moved to get access to it. On top of the challenge to drop the oil pan is the fact that what timing chain tensioner to run is like a religious debate! I decided to change mine and after this weekend wonder if I wasted time doing it. But it's done and I'll live with the decision.

But I digress. So this weekend I installed the cam, older style timing chain tensioner, and the Innovators West dampener. Later this week will be the head swap.




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Old 07-22-2012, 09:16 PM   #60
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Nice work. Now you feel like you have "ownership" in this machine other than just "owning" the car and as you drive down the road you know that YOUR hands put it together. SO...which tensioner did you go with?
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #61
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Nice work. Now you feel like you have "ownership" in this machine other than just "owning" the car and as you drive down the road you know that YOUR hands put it together. SO...which tensioner did you go with?
The black one in this thread. You can see it in the 1st picture.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188107
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:41 PM   #62
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:26 AM   #63
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Removing the tensioner and replacing with dampner and 3 bolt timing gear is the correct thing to do. Many parts of tensioners not changed out with cam change have ended up in the oil pan. You did good!!!
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:32 PM   #64
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Do you mind sharing some pictures of your ported blower? m curious to see how it looks?
(of course only if it is ok with KDi)
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:44 AM   #65
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It's in transit back to me but I fully intend on pictures as I go back together!
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Not enough bang for the buck in replacing heads.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:54 PM   #67
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Not enough bang for the buck in replacing heads.
Possibly not.

I should have some new pictures up this weekend. going back together with the heads and ported blower.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #68
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Ran into an issue with the head studs. Apparently the LSA block is NOT the same as the LS9 block so I ordered the wrong head stud kit. So not much work happening on the ZL1 this weekend after all. Here's a side by side comparison of the stock vs Mast heads. Can really see the height difference.

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WOW! Now THAT's a head ladies and gents. You sure you're gonna be able to get that intake and blower back on?
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WOW! Now THAT's a head ladies and gents. You sure you're gonna be able to get that intake and blower back on?
Might have to just jump straight to a Whipple!
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Might have to just jump straight to a Whipple!
Dibbs on the ported blower! either way i love watching the progress on your build...
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:02 AM   #72
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Do you mind sharing some pictures of your ported blower? m curious to see how it looks?
(of course only if it is ok with KDi)

Not ok with KDi :(

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Old 07-29-2012, 12:21 PM   #73
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Man, there's a ton of work especially in the inlet. The blower body looks a lot easier but I'm sure that's tedious work with all those deep runners and places they need to get to...

How does the blower seal against the heads? Will those green gaskets still be used or do you need a sealer now too?

P.s. how did your heat exchanger look like? Not sure how many miles you made before tearing into it but im curious if there was any oil on it...
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Possibly not.

I should have some new pictures up this weekend. going back together with the heads and ported blower.
Whoops, Just re-read my post. I didn't mean for that to come out the way it did, sorry.
Nice pictures of the work.
Awesomw thread.
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You were not kidding about those heads not being stealth, lol!!!

Yeah - 12mm for LS9s I believe :(

LOOKING F'ING GREAT!!!
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