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Old 07-04-2012, 05:19 PM   #18
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One thing is for sure, if GM waits until the 6th Gen for the Z28, they better make it worth the wait.
They can swing the marketing pendulum back to the Camaro with the Z28/LS7. If they wait too long sales will decline and they will give the Mustang control again in the pony car wars.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #19
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They can swing the marketing pendulum back to the Camaro with the Z28/LS7. If they wait too long sales will decline and they will give the Mustang control again in the pony car wars.
They might be able to. Using the sales from this gen for development, I think they should make the Z28 the focus of the 6th gen launch. Unless the 1LE is actually a test bed for the Z28, I don't know if it will make a comeback in this gen.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:52 PM   #20
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If GM didn't look at these threads shame on them! (but I know they do )
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:04 PM   #21
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They might be able to. Using the sales from this gen for development, I think they should make the Z28 the focus of the 6th gen launch. Unless the 1LE is actually a test bed for the Z28, I don't know if it will make a comeback in this gen.
Gotta sell in the meantime. The Camaro's more than paid for, time to start pushing marketing harder as the car ages, ala Gt500 and the rest of the Mustang lineup.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:07 PM   #22
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Gotta sell in the meantime. The Camaro's more than paid for, time to start pushing marketing harder as the car ages, ala Gt500 and the rest of the Mustang lineup.
Exactly and make sure what ever they deliver lives up to the hype.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:58 PM   #25
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Exactly and make sure what ever they deliver lives up to the hype.
We've made it easy for them by spelling out the recipe using on hand parts. A BIG no brainier, IMHO.
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Does anyone remeber the GM crisis when the Grand National came out? I am not totaly convinced they will create the Z28 the way we think it will be. But times have changed so I will still keep my fingers crossed.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:18 PM   #27
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Does anyone remeber the GM crisis when the Grand National came out? I am not totaly convinced they will create the Z28 the way we think it will be. But times have changed so I will still keep my fingers crossed.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:06 PM   #28
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I am not saying that GM doesnt listen to the forum. I am saying payimg customers carry more weight. Ive seen pleanty of members prove they are paying, dedicated customers. Some already on their 2nd or 3rd Camaro. They will carry more weight than those that do not. Who would you listen to? You want a Z28...then buy a camaro and then educate me. Peace.
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Ok, maybe not a "Crisis" but it sure did start an uproar within General Motors. In 1987 the flag ship car for GM met its match and Chevrolet did not appreciate it. The Grand National had been around for a few years now, but late in 87 Buick put out a low production GNX (547). A 276 HP Turbo V6 that matched the cost of the current Corvette. Rumors milled that a lawsuit was filed within GM. In 1988 the Regal was completely re-designed as a front wheel drive vehicle and the GNX became a classic collectible. Like I said, it wasn't really a crisis but it was interesting to see happen.
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I am not saying that GM doesnt listen to the forum. I am saying payimg customers carry more weight. Ive seen pleanty of members prove they are paying, dedicated customers. Some already on their 2nd or 3rd Camaro. They will carry more weight than those that do not. Who would you listen to? You want a Z28...then buy a camaro and then educate me. Peace.
The customers that have owned 3 5th gens already are easy pickens. Any marketing person will tell you that the new customer is their top priority. A proven LS7 Z28 would bring in the Chevy diehards and a new type of performance enthusiast, even more so if it outperforms everything in the market at an affordable price.
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I am not saying that GM doesnt listen to the forum. I am saying payimg customers carry more weight. Ive seen pleanty of members prove they are paying, dedicated customers. Some already on their 2nd or 3rd Camaro. They will carry more weight than those that do not. Who would you listen to? You want a Z28...then buy a camaro and then educate me. Peace.
I guess you don't have a background in marketing? Taking your advice Buick would be out of business.
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The customers that have owned 3 5th gens already are easy pickens. Any marketing person will tell you that the new customer is their top priority. A proven LS7 Z28 would bring in the Chevy diehards and a new type of performance enthusiast, even more so if it outperforms everything in the market at an affordable price.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:36 PM   #33
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Got ya!

The Camaro team spends quite a bit of time around here listening and discussing with us. One of the way's we communicate is through the "disciples". The disciples are a group of Camaro enthusiast's (non GM employees) who sit down with GM behind closed doors and discuss their/our wants and such. GM has listened and has made changes based off of the input received from this community! It is really impressive actually....



For example....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=disciples
Thanks for the link. Way too much there to try to catch up on tonight, though.


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I am not saying that GM doesnt listen to the forum. I am saying payimg customers carry more weight. Ive seen pleanty of members prove they are paying, dedicated customers. Some already on their 2nd or 3rd Camaro. They will carry more weight than those that do not. Who would you listen to? You want a Z28...then buy a camaro and then educate me. Peace.
What you don't seem to realize is that there are many POTENTIAL paying customers that are awaiting the arrival of the Camaro they really want before they plunk down their hard earned cash. Take me for example, 5th gen SS, sorry, doesn't meet my criteria, 5th gen ZL1, not my first choice so I won't buy it. A new Z/28 with a powerful NA V8 and awesome handling, man I'm right there, when can I have it delivered!
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