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Old 07-04-2012, 09:45 PM   #1
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Plain and simple, I need advice

Long story short, I want a supercharger or turbo/procharger. I don't know which is really the way to go. I hear good things about all such as the E-force, maggie, whipple, The 1.9 from GM I believe and there's a couple of turbo kits I believe on the phastek website.

I'm not looking for a 9-10sec monster (although that would be nice), I just want a good amount of power added and still be able to drive my car everyday without really having to upgrade much.

If all I got was a supercharger what else would I NEED to upgrade in order to insure smooth driving without breaking anything?

Thank you all in advance for any help and/or advice!
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #2
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If you are happy with a 120-140 rear wheel HP gain, then you can add a eforce, whipple, lysholm or a Magnuson without changing anything else. Both of those kits are designed to work with 100% stock vehicles.

At that level they are all practically the same. Which one appeals to you most cosmetically?
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Long story short, I want a supercharger or turbo/procharger. I don't know which is really the way to go. I hear good things about all such as the E-force, maggie, whipple, The 1.9 from GM I believe and there's a couple of turbo kits I believe on the phastek website.

I'm not looking for a 9-10sec monster (although that would be nice), I just want a good amount of power added and still be able to drive my car everyday without really having to upgrade much.

If all I got was a supercharger what else would I NEED to upgrade in order to insure smooth driving without breaking anything?

Thank you all in advance for any help and/or advice!
Go whipple....by far the best all around choice of the PD blowers.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:19 PM   #4
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Go whipple....by far the best all around choice of the PD blowers.

All you will need is the blower kit. If you don't abuse the car it will be fine.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:01 AM   #5
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TVS2300 or Whipple.
Very easy "bolt on" superchargers and you can just strap em on with a tune and have 120-130+ rwhp. They're also torque monsters so their a lot of fun.

With the stock pulley and tune you don't really have to change anything. It's when you start upping boost, or throw in a cam, that you'll need things such as injectors, fuel pump, if you're an auto probably an ls3 conversion, built differential, gears are nice, suspension b/c the stock suspension on these cars go to crap REAL quick.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:53 AM   #6
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If you are happy with a 120-140 rear wheel HP gain, then you can add a eforce, whipple, lysholm or a Magnuson without changing anything else. Both of those kits are designed to work with 100% stock vehicles.

At that level they are all practically the same. Which one appeals to you most cosmetically?
I thought that after i slapped a set of LT headers and 3" exhaust on the car a week after i bought that was gonna keep my happy...Well, it did for about a week....it hasn't even been a year and the plans never seem to stop!

OP, get ready for the addiction and sleepless nights!
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I thought that after i slapped a set of LT headers and 3" exhaust on the car a week after i bought that was gonna keep my happy...Well, it did for about a week....it hasn't even been a year and the plans never seem to stop!

OP, get ready for the addiction and sleepless nights!
i second that..did, LT, UDP,VARARAM,CAM,102 INTAKE,and T/B...now I'm going to get a F/I system.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #8
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Yup. Agree with the rest of these guys so far.

What you are explaining is exactly a supercharger.

You can strap it on, no other parts needed right way.

To get to the 10 second range you'd need a HELLUVA lot more to keep the car from tearing up. From the engine, to tranny, to axles and diff. Even forging the rotating assembly.

All that piping for turbos is a pita for DIYers.

Just bolt a PD blower on it and have fun.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:29 AM   #9
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turbo turbo turboooo! look into turbonetics they have a good set op for the 5th gen camaros
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:31 AM   #10
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^^ exactly. Turbo is where its at. Maybe even 2...lol
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turbo turbo turboooo! look into turbonetics they have a good set op for the 5th gen camaros
Can you explain why?
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I would have to say turbo as well. We have all of the little bugs worked out of kits and catching up on the orders as well. Our turbo kit @ 7psi, will outperform any other kit on the market at the same boost level. Complete bolt on and all the factory accessories remain in stock location. No cutting on the car or anything. Direct bolt on kit. 550-600rwhp @ 7psi. all day.

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because even at low psi these cars fly when they hit boost
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Can you explain why?
how we go agine.....
everybody knows for the most h/p out of the box, go with the turbo.. just up the boost for more power..with that is more heat probs and a shit load of pipeing..with that said
this OP is looking for a simple power add to his car for a Dayle driver, a supercharger is perfect in that aspect,a lot less to go wrong, like blown off piping from boost, oil leaks,vacuum pressure drops on the wastgates..so forth... so OP u got the right idea about supercharging your car.
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I would have to say turbo as well. We have all of the little bugs worked out of kits and catching up on the orders as well. Our turbo kit @ 7psi, will outperform any other kit on the market at the same boost level. Complete bolt on and all the factory accessories remain in stock location. No cutting on the car or anything. Direct bolt on kit. 550-600rwhp @ 7psi. all day.

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That's a better explanation for the OP.

It's the piping and cutting that make it a pita for a 'bolt on'. If your kit is truly that simple then sweet.

But I've yet to see a Turbo kit that can be put on and pulled off as a simple bolt on.

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how we go agine.....
everybody knows for the most h/p out of the box, go with the turbo.. just up the boost for more power..with that is more heat probs and a shit load of pipeing..with that said
this OP is looking for a simple power add to his car for a Dayle driver, a supercharger is perfect in that aspect,a lot less to go wrong, like blown off piping from boost, oil leaks,vacuum pressure drops on the wastgates..so forth... so OP u got the right idea about supercharging your car.


I'm not looking for the old argument between the two. Just clarification to answer the OPs question.

If it were up to me (ie..... I could afford it) I'd do a TT LSX with all the trimmings. But that isn't what the OP asked.
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OP...bottom line is the guys running turbos will say get the turbo. Guys running the PD blower will say that's the best as will the centri blower guys.

Do your research and make your own decision based on what you want and your future goals with the car. Plain and simple!
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ya im not looking for an argument either..? all i was saying is i personally like turbos
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ya im not looking for an argument either..? all i was saying is i personally like turbos


I wanted turbos but was too expensive. I did mine two years ago. Not sure how it is now but at the time the turbos were NOT easy for a DIYer in the garage at home.

Reason I did a PD blower was affordability and ability to do it myself.
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^ Ya that is true.
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lol still waiting on 8 and 9 second runs by all these super fast "turbo" cars..

Oh wait.


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lol still waiting on 8 and 9 second runs by all these super fast "turbo" cars..

Oh wait.


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I am not sure we have even seen an 11.....let alone a 9.

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That's a better explanation for the OP.

It's the piping and cutting that make it a pita for a 'bolt on'. If your kit is truly that simple then sweet.

But I've yet to see a Turbo kit that can be put on and pulled off as a simple bolt on.



I'm not looking for the old argument between the two. Just clarification to answer the OPs question.

If it were up to me (ie..... I could afford it) I'd do a TT LSX with all the trimmings. But that isn't what the OP asked.


Our single kit is a true bolt on kit. Even our twin Turbo setup we dont cut anything either.

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lol still waiting on 8 and 9 second runs by all these super fast "turbo" cars..

Oh wait.


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I am not sure we have even seen an 11.....let alone a 9.

Wait til the fest.

Might even see 8 secs.
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Wait til the fest.

Might even see 8 secs.
Yeahh......might see Big Foot too.
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Wow, I didn't expect this many responses and debates while I was away. A lot of great info and arguements and I appreciate them all. I MAY be leaning more towards the turbo route seeing as they are a bit more fuel efficient using "wasted" energy from the engine to make more power. I'm still not sure though, The magnuson SC sounds really appealing also. So many to choose from i can't decide :/.

Chris-HPS how much do you guys run for a turbo kit? Or maybe even the Twin Turbo kit?
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