Let's make some sense out of SCT datalog......

[Badbubba]

Originally Posted by PQ

So how do I set my SCT up to log Boost, AFR, IAT. ???

I have a new Tensioner I got from Ted and a new pulley. I need to get my boost with the old set-up and then get the new set-up numbers so I know what I have. I have a boost gauge but hard to get the numbers while driving.

I need to make sure I'm not too high with the new set-up.

This is for Livelink II, hopefully your 6.5 has the same functions.
Select the IAT pid, to accurately log AFR you need to have a wideband sensor installed in the exhaust along with a gauge/meter that is capable of sending an output voltage that represents the AFR, through the firewire to the handheld. Such as 0 volt output would be an AFR of 10 and a 4 volt output would be an AFR of 20. All voltages in between would be AFR=(Voltage*2.5) + 10. With Livelink II, you can enter this equation as analog input 1 or 2 and it is supposed to display it as the AFR. Well guess what. It doesn't work either. Livelink II will only log the raw voltage. Which you must then convert with the equation. Does your boost gauge/meter have a voltage output for logging? If so, then you could use the other analog input to log the voltage, then convert it.
As far as your ZR1 MAP, that should be a PID you can choose.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by KnightRiderSS

Is there a new version of livelink? Your desktop says 6.5 and some people mentioned a newer version? I tried looking and couldn't find it....

I'll try it but the other guy said it want' any more reliable.

Originally Posted by Badbubba

This is for Livelink II, hopefully your 6.5 has the same functions.
Select the IAT pid, to accurately log AFR you need to have a wideband sensor installed in the exhaust along with a gauge/meter that is capable of sending an output voltage that represents the AFR, through the firewire to the handheld. Such as 0 volt output would be an AFR of 10 and a 4 volt output would be an AFR of 20. All voltages in between would be AFR=(Voltage*2.5) + 10. With Livelink II, you can enter this equation as analog input 1 or 2 and it is supposed to the equation display it as AFR. Well guess what. It doesn't work either. Livelink II will only log the raw voltage. Which you must then convert with the equation. Does your boost gauge/meter have a voltage output for logging? If so, then you could use the other analog input to log the voltage, then convert it.
As far as your ZR1 MAP, that should be a PID you can choose.

I'll skip the AFR. If the fuel pressure is up and the IAT is good then I'm sure it's fine.

[Badbubba]

I did that too. Says I'm up to date on all of it. Firmware too.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but that is for your current firmware and software. SCT does not have the new firmware on their site. You can download Livelink II from their site, but you need to call them for the firmware. SCT techs will remote into your computer and install the updates. They are also having headaches with getting the G8's to log. SCT will not release firmware on their site until all the issues are resolved. btw, what model is your handheld? Maybe if it's too old, you won't be able to get the new stuff.

[MagnusKrans]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I see the problem.......It's all the Buffalo Bill's shit slowing down the computer!!!!!!!!!

ROFL

[Crime2]

Originally Posted by Badbubba

I did that too. Says I'm up to date on all of it. Firmware too.

Yes, but that is for your current firmware and software. SCT does not have the new firmware on their site. You can download Livelink II from their site, but you need to call them for the firmware. SCT techs will remote into your computer and install the updates. They are also having headaches with getting the G8's to log. SCT will not release firmware on their site until all the issues are resolved. btw, what model is your handheld? Maybe if it's too old, you won't be able to get the new stuff. [/QUOTE]

+1

Call SCT and they will take care of it. Had to do the same.


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[PQ]

My handheld is a few years old. Always worked just fairly ok for loading tunes into the car.

Data logging it has NEVER worked well. I haven't tried the new program. Shouldn't have to. Unless the old program rarely worked for ANYONE.

I'm trying to find someone who has used this program to data log with any kind of regularity. A lot of people love SCT but I doubt a lot have logged a ton using LiveWire. I think most just load a tune and scan codes.

Is there a better way to do it without buy the expensive tuner software? That would be overkill. I'm not a tuner and don't want to be. Just want to be able to log my car FOR a tuner to look at. Or to just get a few readings to use like in this case.

I don't mind buying a stable handheld and program. For now I'm going to send the tensioner and pulley back and look into a logging program.

Bottom line is I can't log the car and need to before and after I make any changes.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by PQ

My handheld is a few years old. Always worked just fairly ok for loading tunes into the car.

Data logging it has NEVER worked well. I haven't tried the new program. Shouldn't have to. Unless the old program rarely worked for ANYONE.

I'm trying to find someone who has used this program to data log with any kind of regularity. A lot of people love SCT but I doubt a lot have logged a ton using LiveWire. I think most just load a tune and scan codes.

Is there a better way to do it without buy the expensive tuner software? That would be overkill. I'm not a tuner and don't want to be. Just want to be able to log my car FOR a tuner to look at. Or to just get a few readings to use like in this case.

I don't mind buying a stable handheld and program. For now I'm going to send the tensioner and pulley back and look into a logging program.

Bottom line is I can't log the car and need to before and after I make any changes.

Someone on C5 is selling a new SCT for $200. Toss him an offer. I didn't realize you had earlier logging issues.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Someone on C5 is selling a new SCT for $200. Toss him an offer. I didn't realize you had earlier logging issues.

It's always been the same. Hours of trying to get one or two logs.

With SCT having all these problems I'd prefer to try another system. IF there are any that is good.

Other than that I'll have to take it somewhere to have it done. Which sux because it's a 5 hour drive to the closest one.

[TinyToasta]

You should be able to calculate/log boost using MAP (uncertain about the PID, but it's there) and deduct the current barometric pressure from the amount read by the SCT, that'll give you your boost...

As far as AFR is concerned, I guess the SCT is kinda useless

I got myself an Innovate LC-1 and an OT-2, this combo logs all the essentials and some more (except knock retard) and logging itself is a breeze!!!

One issue though: the OT-2 only talks to "apples"....

Originally Posted by PQ

I think you're right.

I guess the question should be did I have the right PIDs in the log to get the boost and Fuel Pressure? Which apperently I did. I was told that the boost is supposed to be minus the barometric pressure???

Do you use this same set-up to log? SCT and LiveWire I mean?

[Supercharged SS]

I've never had one single issue with my SCT stuff. The only problems that arise are self inflicted.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by TinyToasta

You should be able to calculate/log boost using MAP (uncertain about the PID, but it's there) and deduct the current barometric pressure from the amount read by the SCT, that'll give you your boost...

As far as AFR is concerned, I guess the SCT is kinda useless

I got myself an Innovate LC-1 and an OT-2, this combo logs all the essentials and some more (except knock retard) and logging itself is a breeze!!!

One issue though: the OT-2 only talks to "apples"....

Well the problem is it won't log. It freezes up and disconnects.

Where can I find that equipments and some 'apples'? hahaha

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I've never had one single issue with my SCT stuff. The only problems that arise are self inflicted.

But Ted set your up right? Maybe I should just call him. I doubt he wants to spend his valuable time making someone elses software work. lol He's a pretty busy guy. But I can't use this tensioner if I can't log the car.

This is my problem with SCT. They are not user friendly at all. While I"m not an IT guy, I know my way around gadgets and computers. This is a software, firmware problem OR there is a trick that is not commonly known.

I'm still looking for someone who has been able to set up the SCT with LiveWire from scratch and make it work well who isn't a tuner.

I can't call SCT I have to be here at the office and don't have time during the day to fool with it.

I'm gonna look into this Innovate LC-1.

[TinyToasta]

The SCT does work well for me, that's not the issue.

It's just that this innovate stuff is easier to work with, if you're only looking into logging, and the extremely useful gadgetery it comes with, such as fuel economy, dyno runs and uploading your personal spark advance tables to facebook

Along with the LC-1 it should give you what you need - again excl. knock retard

Here are the links:
http://www.ot-2.com/
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc1.php

The OT-2 comes with LogWorks Software


As far as apples are concerned... well...
Watch out for trees like this - especially in summer you should be lucky finding some lying underneath

[PQ]

Originally Posted by TinyToasta

The SCT does work well for me, that's not the issue.

It's just that this innovate stuff is easier to work with, if you're only looking into logging, and the extremely useful gadgetery it comes with, such as fuel economy, dyno runs and uploading your personal spark advance tables to facebook

Along with the LC-1 it should give you what you need - again excl. knock retard

Here are the links:
http://www.ot-2.com/
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc1.php

The OT-2 comes with LogWorks Software

HOLY CRAP!!!

That looks cool as shit. So it hooks to your OBDII and then send the info to an easy to read graphic interface on your phone and will datalog it too?

Please tell me it's not ONLY for iPhone?

THIS is what I'm talking about with SCT. It can be done so much better. And for the same basic cost too. (considering most already have a smart phone)

[TinyToasta]

Originally Posted by PQ

Please tell me it's not ONLY for iPhone?

The OT-2 is Apple only as far as I know - maybe you can have some scientists fiddling with it so it talks to other devices as well

It's some much more conveniant not carrying a computer with you to actually see what you're logging. And it makes you look less nerdy too...
Best thing it's WiFi and has build in router, so you can have LAN-Parties in your car


But seriously: with the LC-1 (AFR) hooked up (still need to do that) it's a pretty cool package

[PQ]

Originally Posted by TinyToasta

The OT-2 is Apple only as far as I know - maybe you can have some scientists fiddling with it so it talks to other devices as well

It's some much more conveniant not carrying a computer with you to actually see what you're logging. And it makes you look less nerdy too...
Best thing it's WiFi and has build in router, so you can have LAN-Parties in your car


But seriously: with the LC-1 (AFR) hooked up (still need to do that) it's a pretty cool package

:upset: :upset: :upset:

[PQ]

OMG, this is so Fing cool.

[PQ]

Triple post.

Screw it. I have an old iPhone I can use. Assuming the iPhone doesn't have to have phone service. Can't imagine why it would.

Clearing coeds, reading engine CELs, all the info you want, easy to read, datalog, accurate 0-60s and other times, and more. I'm in.

Anything else I might need to know.

I gotta send my tensioner and pulley back or Bonnie will kill me. But I can at least read what I need and order it again later.

[TinyToasta]

Tell Bonnie it works on Corvettes as well

Originally Posted by PQ

Anything else I might need to know.

Yep, getting the LC-1 hooked up involves welding an is a pain in the a?se.
But at least it doesn't require red hoses

[The Stig]

Randy - do you want me just to mail you my predator tuner? I've got it all set up for data logging already. All you'd have to do is plug it in and hit the "log data" button

[TriGun]

I used SCT to log too. The only way to set the PID's to log by the following steps.

- launch LiveLink.
- start the car.
- connect the ODBII cable to SCT device.
- connect ODBII cable to the port.
- connect the USB cable to SCT device then to the laptop.
- open and configure your PID's.
- save the config file and use it every time you want to log.

Note: there is a special firmwere to log gen5 Camaro (which provide stable connection) only available by contacting SCT support.

You cannot customize PID's like HPTuner to make one for boost. But generally boost equals (MAP-Baro) to get it in psi ( (MAP-Baro)/6.9) ).

It is note necessary to log Barometric pressure every time. You have to know it one time only and use it as a constant.

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[PQ]

Originally Posted by TinyToasta

Tell Bonnie it works on Corvettes as well



Yep, getting the LC-1 hooked up involves welding an is a pain in the a?se.
But at least it doesn't require red hoses

I can make red hoses work on it anyway. LMAO

To have an acurate AFR at all times would be pretty cool. I still want to put the gauges in for AFR, IAT and PSI but this will be awesome till I do. And even after.

Originally Posted by stieger

Randy - do you want me just to mail you my predator tuner? I've got it all set up for data logging already. All you'd have to do is plug it in and hit the "log data" button

Nope. Thank you. I've made up my mind. I'm getting the LC-1.

I think I'll buy it AND keep the tensioner and pulley. I'll just do the AFR some other time. For under 200.00 I can have the system shipped to me.

Ordering front Supercars to go with my rear ones so I'm a bit strapped right now. Have XAs in front right now and supercars in rear.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by TriGun

I used SCT to log too. The only way to set the PID's to log by the following steps.

- launch LiveLink.
- start the car.
- connect the ODBII cable to SCT device.
- connect ODBII cable to the port.
- connect the USB cable to SCT device then to the laptop.
- open and configure your PID's.
- save the config file and use it every time you want to log.

Note: there is a special firmwere to log gen5 Camaro (which provide stable connection) only available by contacting SCT support.

You cannot customize PID's like HPTuner to make one for boost. But generally boost equals (MAP-Baro) to get it in psi ( (MAP-Baro)/6.9) ).

It is note necessary to log Barometric pressure every time. You have to know it one time only and use it as a constant.

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I did just that. As you explained it the other night. But if it starts to log and then fails I doubt it's the order of operation. Never know though.

I decided to just get the easier system. Much better. At this point the only thing SCT is good for is carrying tunes to load to the car. And I can still use it for that. I now will have easy access to easy to read data logs and everything else at all times.

But thank you for your help.

With the one I'm getting it's just read boost for me.

[TriGun]

I use LM-2 to log AFR and also it can log PID from ODBII. Also i hook the wideband to the exhaust.

I wish for a softwere that can convert tune files between SCT, EFI Live, HPTuner and Diablo. Like converting video or music files from format to format.

So you can use your preferred platform for uploading tunes and perform datalogging, while your tuner use his preferred tuner program.

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[TinyToasta]

Here are some screenshots...

That's the log from the OT-2 using LogWorks that came with the scanner.

No AFR yet, as the LC-1 has yet to be put in the car...


Not a Pro-Tool but it does it's job

But that's enough thread hijacking I guess...

[PQ]

Originally Posted by TriGun

I wish for a softwere that can convert tune files between SCT, EFI Live, HPTuner and Diablo. Like converting video or music files from format to format.

So you can use your preferred platform for uploading tunes and perform datalogging, while your tuner use his preferred tuner program.

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Me too. I know I'm done with SCT unless I just use it to receive mailed tunes. I can use the phone system to send a datalog.

Originally Posted by TinyToasta

Here are some screenshots...

That's the log from the OT-2 using LogWorks that came with the scanner.

No AFR yet, as the LC-1 has yet to be put in the car...


Not a Pro-Tool but it does it's job

But that's enough thread hijacking I guess...

You aren't hijacking. This is good info.

Apperently you have to be a pro almost to use SCT to log. I'll just get the LC-1 to log and scan and clear codes and use the SCT if I ever need a mailed tune. Which I doubt.