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Old 05-20-2009, 08:37 AM   #1
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I want 2010 Camaro GEARS!

I have been asking around everywhere for Rear end Gears for my new Camaro. It feels TALL! I want something that is a little more performance, like 4.10 or 4.30's. This sounds steep, but the tires are really large, so it is like a 3.73 on a f-car or Mustang.

Apparently the rear end gears are new design for the 2010 Camaro, so none of the existing gears available will work.

We have to wait for the aftermarket...
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:29 AM   #2
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I'm sure they're not far from becoming available. I can see where you're coming from, though I haven't driven one yet. Those tires are something like two more inches that the last generation, not to mention I'm sure they're heavier on top of that. I kinda' think that even going 3.73s may not even prove that much of a benefit, unless the person is just looking for a small improvement. Personally, I'll be looking at a set of ZR1 wheels and matching tires because I love their look and the tires are smaller if I remember right.

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Old 05-20-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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Don't we all! Can't wait for different ratios to come around. This heavy pig needs some help!!
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In another thread where someone else was asking about the same thing, it was suggested that Corvette parts would fit.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:00 AM   #5
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Corvette parts will not fit. I have it from a connected source that these are a new design. The car needs it bad, as I have alot of clutch needed just to launch the car mildly!

4.1 is the first try for me, but I think 4.30 will be the best for what I want to do.

Please aftermarket! Here our call!
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:23 PM   #6
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X2 i want some 4.30's and i dont even have my car yet
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:27 PM   #7
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Several vendors are looking at this market. I know the guy at ADM had posted about developing a source.

I have a 3.90 due here today or tomorrow.

My source is still 3 months from production.

Hopefully if anyone else has a source they will step forward.

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Old 05-20-2009, 08:48 PM   #8
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I had a set of 4.10 gears in my 99 Trans Am and did they ever wake up the car. It made 6th gear actually usable.

After driving the "new beast" for 6 months after I get it I definitely going to consider gears.

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:56 PM   #9
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i want em as well. but their gonna be pricey
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:04 PM   #10
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Don't we all! Can't wait for different ratios to come around. This heavy pig needs some help!!
I agree 1000% after the horrible 13.05 that was ran at the track tonight!!!!
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:21 AM   #11
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you ran a 13.05 in a new stock camaro. not bad jimmy. post your time slip.
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I agree 1000% after the horrible 13.05 that was ran at the track tonight!!!!
Well, you know it wasn't because your tires weren't warm. Probably still smoking from 2 nights ago...

13.05? Looks like that supercharger is on order...
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Several vendors are looking at this market. I know the guy at ADM had posted about developing a source.

I have a 3.90 due here today or tomorrow.

My source is still 3 months from production.

Hopefully if anyone else has a source they will step forward.

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The aftermarket is way ahead of schedule. We have all kinds of stuff coming out with the thanks of Pedders, Lingenfelter, Tom Henry Racing, DSV Customs, and a long line of other companies that have been contributing big and small parts to the growing list of Camaro products. Expect gears really soon.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:43 PM   #15
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I'm going to keep a eye for 3.9.
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Can someone explain gears to me doesn't have to be a whole course just in idiots terms is fine. Is it the larger number of the gear like actually physically a bigger gear thereby pulling the camaro harder with less work. And about what average cost would be or a guestimate.
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the way this car is geared, 4th gear is taller than most other cars 5th gear. It's the equivalent of having 3 regular gears and 3 overdrives.
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4.1 is the first try for me, but I think 4.30 will be the best for what I want to do.
What do you have planned?
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Yep, and it's not good. :(

The gear arrived at Performance Transmissions on Tuesday. I went there last night to get the gear swapped in my spare 3rd memeber. While the gear looks correct there are very small differences in several of the bearing surfaces. Also the ring gear bolt pattern is different.

My guess is that while the gear is for a ZF and the Camaro is a ZF the prototype that we have is for a different series of the ZF.

Hopefully someone will have another option very soon.

We are going to look at a G8 to see if that gear is for that center section.

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Im hopin for 4.10 but I dunno, never had 4.10 and dunno what kinda wear it really has on anything..
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Can someone explain gears to me doesn't have to be a whole course just in idiots terms is fine. Is it the larger number of the gear like actually physically a bigger gear thereby pulling the camaro harder with less work. And about what average cost would be or a guestimate.
By gears, the OP is referring to the Rear end gear ratio, or axle ratio. if you have a 3.45 rear end, the driveshaft turns 3.45 times for every 1 revolution of the tires. The higher this number, the more mechanical advantage the engine has over the tires. There is a practical limit for many reasons though, obviously you cant put a 10.0 to 1 rear end, you would go through all 6 gears by 80 mph, and you wouldn't make good use of the available power.

The Camaro is geared very low, as others have mentioned. This helps fuel economy and keeps rpm low on the highway, but hurts acceleration.

Physically speaking, the gear ratio is determined by the number of teeth on the ring gear divided by the number of teeth on the pinion, so for example a 39 tooth ring gear and a 10 tooth pinion gives 39/10=3.90 ratio. There you go-gearing 101!
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By gears, the OP is referring to the Rear end gear ratio, or axle ratio. if you have a 3.45 rear end, the driveshaft turns 3.45 times for every 1 revolution of the tires. The higher this number, the more mechanical advantage the engine has over the tires. There is a practical limit for many reasons though, obviously you cant put a 10.0 to 1 rear end, you would go through all 6 gears by 80 mph, and you wouldn't make good use of the available power.

The Camaro is geared very low, as others have mentioned. This helps fuel economy and keeps rpm low on the highway, but hurts acceleration.

Physically speaking, the gear ratio is determined by the number of teeth on the ring gear divided by the number of teeth on the pinion, so for example a 39 tooth ring gear and a 10 tooth pinion gives 39/10=3.90 ratio. There you go-gearing 101!
thanks for the info, helped me as well...
Hylton talked good things about possibly having a 3.90 on the Camaro.... i may end up with that over 4.10
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The Camaro is geared very low, as others have mentioned. This helps fuel economy and keeps rpm low on the highway, but hurts acceleration.
The Camaro is geared high, if it's geared for fuel economy. High or "tall" gears are lower-numbered ratios in the rear end.

Any time you're confused and not sure if you're thinking of low or high, consider the maximum speed with the new gear, or consider which gear in the transmission is "high gear" and which gear is marked "L" in some cars. 1st is low gear, 6th (or 5th in a 5 speed, 4th in a 4 speed, etc) is high gear; a low gear has more mechanical advantage for low speeds with lots of force, while a high gear is for high speeds with less force.

When someone says "My car's rear end has tall gears and I want better acceleration", they might want to change their 3.23 to 4.10. When someone says "My car runs too many RPM on the highway and I want better fuel economy", they might want to change their 4.10 rear end to 3.23.
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The Camaro is geared high, if it's geared for fuel economy. High or "tall" gears are lower-numbered ratios in the rear end.

Any time you're confused and not sure if you're thinking of low or high, consider the maximum speed with the new gear, or consider which gear in the transmission is "high gear" and which gear is marked "L" in some cars. 1st is low gear, 6th (or 5th in a 5 speed, 4th in a 4 speed, etc) is high gear; a low gear has more mechanical advantage for low speeds with lots of force, while a high gear is for high speeds with less force.

When someone says "My car's rear end has tall gears and I want better acceleration", they might want to change their 3.23 to 4.10. When someone says "My car runs too many RPM on the highway and I want better fuel economy", they might want to change their 4.10 rear end to 3.23.
It can be confusing, when I say low, I mean low numeric ratio, but I see what you mean.
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